On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 19:32:51 +0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 18:52:02 +0000
>Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> A ton of fuss over
>> nothing IME. Very little of Boris' measures were justified.
>
>Indeed not. There was no point to the lockdown, as the disease was
>already widespread. Lockdowns are only of use when a disease is confined
>to a small area, as with MERS and the original SARS.
>
>The issue over Boris' party was not so much that he broke the rules,
>which he knew were pointless, but that he imposed them on the rest of
>us.

And then compounded the sin by lying about it with worthless
assurances that no rules had been broken! Glad to see the back of the
cunt, personally.

Rod Speed wrote:
> Joe wrote
> > SteveW wrote
> >> Joe wrote
>
> >> > An analogous situation is that people in the US lost jobs or were
> >> > discharged from the military for refusing to take the experimental
> >> > genetic vaccines
>
> >> They were and are neither genetic nor experimental.
>
> >> Cells in the body produce proteins in response to receiving mRNA. The
> >> vaccines use mRNA to trigger the cells to produce proteins that have
> >> a spike similar to the virus, to train the immune system to attack
> >> it. mRNA, just as in the normal functioning of the body is used up
> >> and disappears from the body ... it does not change a person's DNA.
>
> >> The vaccines went through *ALL* the normal testing,
> > I'll stop you there. Medication for mass distributionis expected to be
> > tested for five to seven years,
> Makes no sense to do that with a disease that is killing
> millions, and is the worst pandemic seen for a century.
> > and to show almost no undesirable side
> > effects over that period. The mRNA treatments were approved only under
> > emergency use conditions, and that was achieved by suppressing
> > information about any medication which might alleviate COVID
> > infections.
> That's a lie.
>
> > If such existed,
>
> It didnt.
> > that would cause emergency use permission to be denied.
> Wrong. And now that we have medication which
> does alleviate COVID infections, emergency use
> permission has not been denied.
> >> but unlike in
> >> normal times, they did not finish phase 1 testing and then spend a
> >> couple of years requesting funding, before moving on to phase 2
> >> testing. Instead, with guaranteed funding, they ran phase 1, until
> >> the vaccines were shown to be safe enough to use, started phase 2,
> >> but CONTINUED phase 1 to its conclusion. Similarly, they started
> >> phase 3, when phase 2 was appearing successful and again continued
> >> phase 2. The combination of not having to wait for the next tranche
> >> of funding and overlapping the test phases, simply allowed the normal
> >> testing to be completed in a fraction of the time normally taken.
>
> > The whole thing took a couple of months, and literally cannot possibly
> > have demonstrated long-term safety, because the tests were not
> > long-term.
> But still made sense to do it that way given the millions
> being killed by covid.
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Didn't make sense if you were smart enough to know that we need
not only Zero Population Growth, but also Population Reduction!
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> > And Pfizer wanted their test results kept confidential for 75 years.
> > Does that tell you nothing?
> And it turned out that the downsides with its mRNA vaccines
> were VASTLY less important than getting infected with covid.

David P <imbibe@mindspring.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Joe wrote
>> > SteveW wrote
>> >> Joe wrote

>> >> > An analogous situation is that people in the US lost jobs or were
>> >> > discharged from the military for refusing to take the experimental
>> >> > genetic vaccines
>>
>> >> They were and are neither genetic nor experimental.
>>
>> >> Cells in the body produce proteins in response to receiving mRNA. The
>> >> vaccines use mRNA to trigger the cells to produce proteins that have
>> >> a spike similar to the virus, to train the immune system to attack
>> >> it. mRNA, just as in the normal functioning of the body is used up
>> >> and disappears from the body ... it does not change a person's DNA.
>>
>> >> The vaccines went through *ALL* the normal testing,
>> > I'll stop you there. Medication for mass distributionis expected to be
>> > tested for five to seven years,
>> Makes no sense to do that with a disease that is killing
>> millions, and is the worst pandemic seen for a century.
>> > and to show almost no undesirable side
>> > effects over that period. The mRNA treatments were approved only under
>> > emergency use conditions, and that was achieved by suppressing
>> > information about any medication which might alleviate COVID
>> > infections.
>> That's a lie.
>>
>> > If such existed,
>>
>> It didnt.
>> > that would cause emergency use permission to be denied.
>> Wrong. And now that we have medication which
>> does alleviate COVID infections, emergency use
>> permission has not been denied.
>> >> but unlike in
>> >> normal times, they did not finish phase 1 testing and then spend a
>> >> couple of years requesting funding, before moving on to phase 2
>> >> testing. Instead, with guaranteed funding, they ran phase 1, until
>> >> the vaccines were shown to be safe enough to use, started phase 2,
>> >> but CONTINUED phase 1 to its conclusion. Similarly, they started
>> >> phase 3, when phase 2 was appearing successful and again continued
>> >> phase 2. The combination of not having to wait for the next tranche
>> >> of funding and overlapping the test phases, simply allowed the normal
>> >> testing to be completed in a fraction of the time normally taken.
>>
>> > The whole thing took a couple of months, and literally cannot possibly
>> > have demonstrated long-term safety, because the tests were not
>> > long-term.
>> But still made sense to do it that way given the millions
>> being killed by covid.
> ----------------
> Didn't make sense if you were smart enough to know that we need
> not only Zero Population Growth,

No we don't. The population growth is fixing itself.

> but also Population Reduction!

Only of fools/drunks like you.

> --
> --
>
>> > And Pfizer wanted their test results kept confidential for 75 years.
>> > Does that tell you nothing?

>> And it turned out that the downsides with its mRNA vaccines
>> were VASTLY less important than getting infected with covid.

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:00:22 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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