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SubjectAuthor
* Alternative to Google GroupsMarco Moock
+- Re: Alternative to Google GroupsOttavio Caruso
+* Re: Alternative to Google GroupsThe Natural Philosopher
|`* Re: Alternative to Google GroupsAndy Burns
| `* Re: Alternative to Google GroupsThe Natural Philosopher
|  `* Re: Alternative to Google GroupsBrian Gaff
|   `* Re: Alternative to Google GroupsAndy Burns
|    `- Re: Alternative to Google GroupsPaul
`* Re: Alternative to Google GroupsBrian Gaff
 `* Re: Alternative to Google GroupsRod Speed
  `- Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!Peeler

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Alternative to Google Groups

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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Subject: Alternative to Google Groups
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:49:23 +0100
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 by: Marco Moock - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 08:49 UTC

This is only relevant for those people who read or post in that
newsgroup using Google Groups.

Google will discontinue Groups in Feb 2024.

For those who do not know Usenet:

Usenet is a distributed communication system consisting of many servers.
Google Groups is only one of them that closes down - other servers will
stay available, but people need to use another server to read and post
here.

You need to use an NNTP server with a so called newsreader.

As an NNTP server, some free services exist where you have to register:
https://www.eternal-september.org/
https://solani.org/
https://www.i2pn2.org/

For using it, you need a newsreader.

Some examples are:
https://www.thunderbird.net
https://www.betterbird.eu/
https://claws-mail.org/
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/

You then need to configure a newsgroup account, sometimes also
called NNTP.

For most servers, authentication must be enforced in the newsreader's
settings.

For Thunderbird, a tutorial is available here:
https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet

For questions about configuring those readers, feel free to ask in
the group news.software.readers.

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From: ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com (Ottavio Caruso)
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Subject: Re: Alternative to Google Groups
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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:29 UTC

Am 13/02/2024 um 08:49 schrieb Marco Moock:
> This is only relevant for those people who read or post in that
> newsgroup using Google Groups.
>
> Google will discontinue Groups in Feb 2024.
>
> For those who do not know Usenet:
>
> Usenet is a distributed communication system consisting of many servers.
> Google Groups is only one of them that closes down - other servers will
> stay available, but people need to use another server to read and post
> here.
>
> You need to use an NNTP server with a so called newsreader.
>
> As an NNTP server, some free services exist where you have to register:
> https://www.eternal-september.org/
> https://solani.org/
> https://www.i2pn2.org/
>
> For using it, you need a newsreader.
>
> Some examples are:
> https://www.thunderbird.net
> https://www.betterbird.eu/
> https://claws-mail.org/
> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/
>
> You then need to configure a newsgroup account, sometimes also
> called NNTP.
>
> For most servers, authentication must be enforced in the newsreader's
> settings.
>
> For Thunderbird, a tutorial is available here:
> https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet
>
> For questions about configuring those readers, feel free to ask in
> the group news.software.readers.
>

WTF why do you give them ideas?

--
Ottavio Caruso

Re: Alternative to Google Groups

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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:52 UTC

On 13/02/2024 08:49, Marco Moock wrote:
> This is only relevant for those people who read or post in that
> newsgroup using Google Groups.
>
> Google will discontinue Groups in Feb 2024.
>
> For those who do not know Usenet:
>
> Usenet is a distributed communication system consisting of many servers.
> Google Groups is only one of them that closes down - other servers will
> stay available, but people need to use another server to read and post
> here.
>
> You need to use an NNTP server with a so called newsreader.
>
> As an NNTP server, some free services exist where you have to register:
> https://www.eternal-september.org/
> https://solani.org/
> https://www.i2pn2.org/
>
Is albasani.net still going?

Also its worth mentioning the non-free Usenet servers.

--
"Nature does not give up the winter because people dislike the cold."

― Confucius

Re: Alternative to Google Groups

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From: usenet@andyburns.uk (Andy Burns)
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Subject: Re: Alternative to Google Groups
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 by: Andy Burns - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:59 UTC

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Is albasani.net still going?

The owner died in 2012 and it eventually shut down.

Re: Alternative to Google Groups

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:13 UTC

On 13/02/2024 09:59, Andy Burns wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Is albasani.net still going?
>
> The owner died in 2012 and it eventually shut down.

That is deeply sad.

--
For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the
very definition of slavery.

Jonathan Swift

Re: Alternative to Google Groups

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From: brian1gaff@gmail.com (Brian Gaff)
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 by: Brian Gaff - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 18:29 UTC

Is there one for the I Phone and what happened to Agent.

Brian

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"Marco Moock" <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote in message
news:uqfaek$20je6$3@dont-email.me...
> This is only relevant for those people who read or post in that
> newsgroup using Google Groups.
>
> Google will discontinue Groups in Feb 2024.
>
> For those who do not know Usenet:
>
> Usenet is a distributed communication system consisting of many servers.
> Google Groups is only one of them that closes down - other servers will
> stay available, but people need to use another server to read and post
> here.
>
> You need to use an NNTP server with a so called newsreader.
>
> As an NNTP server, some free services exist where you have to register:
> https://www.eternal-september.org/
> https://solani.org/
> https://www.i2pn2.org/
>
> For using it, you need a newsreader.
>
> Some examples are:
> https://www.thunderbird.net
> https://www.betterbird.eu/
> https://claws-mail.org/
> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/
>
> You then need to configure a newsgroup account, sometimes also
> called NNTP.
>
> For most servers, authentication must be enforced in the newsreader's
> settings.
>
> For Thunderbird, a tutorial is available here:
> https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet
>
> For questions about configuring those readers, feel free to ask in
> the group news.software.readers.
>

Re: Alternative to Google Groups

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 by: Brian Gaff - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 18:31 UTC

It stopped working after a crash last year, so whoever was running it
obviously decided that it was a waste of time. It had a very restricted [
policy on groups and how many posts a day as well.
Brian

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"The Natural Philosopher" <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 13/02/2024 09:59, Andy Burns wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> Is albasani.net still going?
>>
>> The owner died in 2012 and it eventually shut down.
>
> That is deeply sad.
>
> --
> For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the
> very definition of slavery.
>
> Jonathan Swift
>
>

Re: Alternative to Google Groups

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 by: Andy Burns - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 18:34 UTC

Brian Gaff wrote:

> It stopped working after a crash last year

you're thinking of aioe not albasani.

apart from the hardware issue, I think the owner there is also in bad
health.

> so whoever was running it
> obviously decided that it was a waste of time. It had a very restricted [
> policy on groups and how many posts a day as well.

Re: Alternative to Google Groups

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 21:16 UTC

Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote

> Is there one for the I Phone

Yep, NewsTap.

Works quite well but is rather slow downloading
a new set of posts. Not really much of a problem
now that volumes have dropped so much if you
usenet daily. Can be a bit of a nuisance if you
usenet say weekly.

Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!

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 by: Peeler - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 21:28 UTC

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 08:16:30 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--
JimK addressing senile Rodent Speed:
"I really feel the quality of your trolling has dropped in the last few
months..."
MID: <n8idndHg5972A2DDnZ2dnUU78e-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

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 by: Paul - Tue, 13 Feb 2024 21:46 UTC

On 2/13/2024 1:34 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> It  stopped working after a crash last year
>
> you're thinking of aioe not albasani.
>
> apart from the hardware issue, I think the owner there is also in bad health.
>
>> so whoever was running it
>> obviously decided that it was a waste of time. It had a very restricted [
>> policy on groups and how many posts a day as well.
>

No, the owner of Albasani passed away and Roman took over.

Something happened to the server, that threatened to need
a rebuild, and Roman gave up on it. I don't think Roman
had the amount of personal time needed, to spend on such
a large project.

AIOE has some similarities, the difference being that Paolo
knows how to bring a server up from nothing... because he had
to do it once. He got kicked out of a COLO, for no really
good reason, and... without his files. It's one of the reasons
that the rental COLOs he used after that, were not Italian ones.

We don't know the full story about AIOE, as to what kicked the
server over. I have a suspicion someone got into it and kicked it
over. But that's just a guess on my part. Given the COLO machines
are hardware poor, I don't think it was a firmware issue on a
RAID hardware card that killed that server. It was more likely
to be running a soft RAID mirror. With less reason for a "total fail",
instead of a "degrade".

Paul


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