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* Virus scanner for LinuxDavid Paste
+* Re: Virus scanner for LinuxThe Natural Philosopher
|`* Re: Virus scanner for LinuxTim Streater
| `* Re: Virus scanner for Linuxken
|  `- Re: Nym-shifting Trolling Senile PIG from OzPeeler
+- Re: Virus scanner for LinuxOttavio Caruso
+- Re: Virus scanner for LinuxJethro_uk
`* Re: Virus scanner for LinuxJohn Rumm
 `- Re: Virus scanner for LinuxJethro_uk

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Virus scanner for Linux

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From: pastedavid@gmail.invalid (David Paste)
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Subject: Virus scanner for Linux
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 by: David Paste - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:34 UTC

Slowly making the move to Linux (Pop!_OS) and one thing I have noticed is
that it seems to lack an in-built virus scanner like Windows has.

Is there an equivalent? Does it even matter? Does it even matter in
Windows? Or have I been Pavloved into scanning my drives for AI training?

Thanks.

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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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Subject: Re: Virus scanner for Linux
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:36 UTC

On 28/02/2024 15:34, David Paste wrote:
> Slowly making the move to Linux (Pop!_OS) and one thing I have noticed is
> that it seems to lack an in-built virus scanner like Windows has.
>
> Is there an equivalent? Does it even matter? Does it even matter in
> Windows? Or have I been Pavloved into scanning my drives for AI training?
>
> Thanks.

Most people don't bother - I have been running for years without one and
not caught anything yet.

Very few viruses target linux per se,

--
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.”

Thomas Sowell

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 by: Tim Streater - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 16:01 UTC

On 28 Feb 2024 at 15:36:10 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 28/02/2024 15:34, David Paste wrote:
>> Slowly making the move to Linux (Pop!_OS) and one thing I have noticed is
>> that it seems to lack an in-built virus scanner like Windows has.
>>
>> Is there an equivalent? Does it even matter? Does it even matter in
>> Windows? Or have I been Pavloved into scanning my drives for AI training?
>
> Most people don't bother - I have been running for years without one and
> not caught anything yet.
>
> Very few viruses target linux per se,

It's only really WIndows that suffers from this. Last time I looked, there
were 144,000 Windows viruses. And that was 16 years ago. Still essentially
none for macOS, or for Linux. I do nothing for macOS, relying on whatever
Apple has built-in (there is something but I know nothing about it). I do
nothing for my Linux VMs, either.

--
“It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since ... it is futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into, we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a power-directed system of thought.”

Sir Roger Scruton

Re: Virus scanner for Linux

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 16:32 UTC

Am 28/02/2024 um 15:34 schrieb David Paste:
> Slowly making the move to Linux (Pop!_OS) and one thing I have noticed is
> that it seems to lack an in-built virus scanner like Windows has.
>
> Is there an equivalent? Does it even matter? Does it even matter in
> Windows? Or have I been Pavloved into scanning my drives for AI training?
>
> Thanks.

Because you don't need any. I have used Linux for 20 years and I have
never needed one.

--
Ottavio Caruso

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 by: Jethro_uk - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:39 UTC

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:34:09 +0000, David Paste wrote:

> Slowly making the move to Linux (Pop!_OS) and one thing I have noticed
> is that it seems to lack an in-built virus scanner like Windows has.
>
> Is there an equivalent? Does it even matter? Does it even matter in
> Windows? Or have I been Pavloved into scanning my drives for AI
> training?
>
> Thanks.

ClamAV should be your starting point. Although I think it's a Linux based
virus scanner that really checks windows files.

Re: Virus scanner for Linux

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 by: ken - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 21:42 UTC

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 03:01:59 +1100, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk>
wrote:

> On 28 Feb 2024 at 15:36:10 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 28/02/2024 15:34, David Paste wrote:
>>> Slowly making the move to Linux (Pop!_OS) and one thing I have noticed
>>> is
>>> that it seems to lack an in-built virus scanner like Windows has.
>>>
>>> Is there an equivalent? Does it even matter? Does it even matter in
>>> Windows? Or have I been Pavloved into scanning my drives for AI
>>> training?
>>
>> Most people don't bother - I have been running for years without one and
>> not caught anything yet.
>>
>> Very few viruses target linux per se,

> It's only really WIndows that suffers from this.

Wrong, as always. Android does too.

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 by: Peeler - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 21:44 UTC

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 08:42:24 +1100, ken, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

Re: Virus scanner for Linux

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 by: John Rumm - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 14:49 UTC

On 28/02/2024 15:34, David Paste wrote:
> Slowly making the move to Linux (Pop!_OS) and one thing I have noticed is
> that it seems to lack an in-built virus scanner like Windows has.
>
> Is there an equivalent? Does it even matter? Does it even matter in
> Windows? Or have I been Pavloved into scanning my drives for AI training?

Linux has vulnerabilities just like any system, however the attack
vectors tend to be different.

Most Linux exploits are directed directly against the system over the
network, rather than via an end user by email.

This is a reflection of the use cases. Tons of linux boxes are internet
facing and running as servers for all manner of things. Relativly few
are actually used as desktop machines. So when developing exploits you
get much better reward for the effort working out how to get into a
machine via one of its installed network services like Apache,
WordPress, Drupal, MySQL, PHPMyAdmin etc.

--
Cheers,

John.

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 by: Jethro_uk - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 19:08 UTC

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 14:49:11 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

> This is a reflection of the use cases. Tons of linux boxes are internet
> facing and running as servers for all manner of things. Relativly few
> are actually used as desktop machines.

So running a Linux desktop is a great start to security ...

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