My existing Hozelock garden hose is beginning to look a bit the
worse for wear, with kinks forming each time I wind it back on
the reel.

I suppose it is over 20 years old, so not too bad for light
domestic use.

There seem to be lots of options available now, with prices to
match.

Part of me is struck by some of the "guarantee" lives being
rather longer than I would expect to be able to witness
personally!

Any particular recommendations? I need around 30 metres.

Chris
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Chris J Dixon wrote:

> My existing Hozelock garden hose is beginning to look a bit the
> worse for wear, with kinks forming each time I wind it back on
> the reel.
>
> I suppose it is over 20 years old, so not too bad for light
> domestic use.
>
> There seem to be lots of options available now, with prices to
> match.
>
> Part of me is struck by some of the "guarantee" lives being
> rather longer than I would expect to be able to witness
> personally!
>
> Any particular recommendations? I need around 30 metres.

I have a good quality (10 year guarantee) wilko hose (obv no longer
available)

When I wanted a longer 3/4" hose, I bought this, resists kinking, lives
outdoors in a field and holding up well so far.

<https://ebay.co.uk/itm/114814348848>

On 08/03/2024 11:46, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> My existing Hozelock garden hose is beginning to look a bit the
> worse for wear, with kinks forming each time I wind it back on
> the reel.
>
> I suppose it is over 20 years old, so not too bad for light
> domestic use.
>

So why not buy the same again?

<https://www.screwfix.com/p/hozelock-2-in-1-reel-with-hose-25m/63087>

Looks almost identical to the one sitting in my back garden, that I
bought 25 years ago. Apart from it was green rather than grey.

The spring connectors only last a few years.

On 08/03/2024 11:46, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> My existing Hozelock garden hose is beginning to look a bit the
> worse for wear, with kinks forming each time I wind it back on
> the reel.
>
> I suppose it is over 20 years old, so not too bad for light
> domestic use.
>
> There seem to be lots of options available now, with prices to
> match.
>
> Part of me is struck by some of the "guarantee" lives being
> rather longer than I would expect to be able to witness
> personally!
>
> Any particular recommendations? I need around 30 metres.
>
> Chris
>

Expensive but I have Hozelok Ultramax hose. Anti kink (really is) and
25 year guarantee. Ours is over 20 years old and apart from it getting
filthy and left out all year still good as new.

On 08/03/2024 12:05, Pancho wrote:
> On 08/03/2024 11:46, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>> My existing Hozelock garden hose is beginning to look a bit the
>> worse for wear, with kinks forming each time I wind it back on
>> the reel.
>>
>> I suppose it is over 20 years old, so not too bad for light
>> domestic use.
>>
>
> So why not buy the same again?
>
> <https://www.screwfix.com/p/hozelock-2-in-1-reel-with-hose-25m/63087>
>
> Looks almost identical to the one sitting in my back garden, that I
> bought 25 years ago. Apart from it was green rather than grey.

Nothing about it being kinkproof, but then even those said to kinkproof
fail over time.

> The spring connectors only last a few years.

--

Jeff

Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
> On 08/03/2024 11:46, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>> My existing Hozelock garden hose is beginning to look a bit the
>> worse for wear, with kinks forming each time I wind it back on
>> the reel.
>>
>> I suppose it is over 20 years old, so not too bad for light
>> domestic use.
>>
>
> So why not buy the same again?
>
> <https://www.screwfix.com/p/hozelock-2-in-1-reel-with-hose-25m/63087>
>
> Looks almost identical to the one sitting in my back garden, that I
> bought 25 years ago. Apart from it was green rather than grey.
>
> The spring connectors only last a few years.
>
>
>

That silver Hoselock hose with the yellow stripe is rubbish. I know, I
have that one and it’s too thin-walled to avoid kinking at the slightest
provocation. The Hoselock fittings don’t grip it well due to its thinness
and it’s prone to splitting if you actually try plugging the hose end into
the receiver on the hose reel.

Generally I’m happy enough with Hoselock fittings but that hose is
particularly poor.

Tim

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Tim+ wrote:
> Generally I’m happy enough with Hoselock fittings
Claber fittings seem much more 'positive locking' and don't dribble like
Hozelock fittings.

On 08/03/2024 11:57, Andy Burns wrote:
> Chris J Dixon wrote:
>
>> My existing Hozelock garden hose is beginning to look a bit the
>> worse for wear, with kinks forming each time I wind it back on
>> the reel.
>>
>> I suppose it is over 20 years old, so not too bad for light
>> domestic use.
>>
>> There seem to be lots of options available now, with prices to
>> match.
>>
>> Part of me is struck by some of the "guarantee" lives being
>> rather longer than I would expect to be able to witness
>> personally!
>>
>> Any particular recommendations? I need around 30 metres.
>
> I have a good quality (10 year guarantee) wilko hose (obv no longer
> available)
>
> When I wanted a longer 3/4" hose, I bought this, resists kinking, lives
> outdoors in a field and holding up well so far.
>
> <https://ebay.co.uk/itm/114814348848>

I thought that the SS-based garden hoses might be a solution to the
kinking plastic hoses, but they don't seem very durable and leak a bit
too readily according to some reviews. Also, the internal diameter is
only 3/8", so the flow rate would be considerably less than that
obtainable with a normal garden hose:
<https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-Steel-Hose/s?k=Stainless+Steel+Hose>

--

Jeff

On 08/03/2024 16:05, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 08/03/2024 11:57, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>
>>> My existing Hozelock garden hose is beginning to look a bit the
>>> worse for wear, with kinks forming each time I wind it back on
>>> the reel.
>>>
>>> I suppose it is over 20 years old, so not too bad for light
>>> domestic use.
>>>
>>> There seem to be lots of options available now, with prices to
>>> match.
>>>
>>> Part of me is struck by some of the "guarantee" lives being
>>> rather longer than I would expect to be able to witness
>>> personally!
>>>
>>> Any particular recommendations? I need around 30 metres.
>>
>> I have a good quality (10 year guarantee) wilko hose (obv no longer
>> available)
>>
>> When I wanted a longer 3/4" hose, I bought this, resists kinking, lives
>> outdoors in a field and holding up well so far.
>>
>> <https://ebay.co.uk/itm/114814348848>
>
> I thought that the SS-based garden hoses might be a solution to the
> kinking plastic hoses, but they don't seem very durable and leak a bit
> too readily according to some reviews. Also, the internal diameter is
> only 3/8", so the flow rate would be considerably less than that
> obtainable with a normal garden hose:
> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-Steel-Hose/s?k=Stainless+Steel+Hose>
>

Possibly very similar to flexi hoses for plumbing. The inner tube may
not have a thick wall. Plumbing flexi hoses tend to only be flexed when
installed but they can have a short life if physically twisted/kinked
when fitting. I would expect a long hose of this type to be twisted when
in use.

I have a couple of hoses and one kinks as soon as you look at it. It's
made of very soft material and, without water, is easily flattened
between thumb and finger. The other doesn't kink and is a LOT stiffer
but the downside is that it tends to have memory of how it was wound in
the reel. Ok on a hot summer days but a tiny bit of a PITY when trying
to extend it to full length in cooler weather.
There was a big difference with the ease of fitting the end attachments
with the latter having to be softened in boiling water before it would
fit over the attachment.
There wasn't much of a price difference when purchasing these two hoses.

The other types of hose to be avoided is the expanding hose - these have
a wafer thin expanding rubber(?) tube inside and will not tolerate even
the slightest amount of abuse, such as dragging the hose around the
corner of a building and allowing the corner of the brick to start
cutting into the inner hose section. I've had one burst when using it
with a spray gun - it was OK when the gun was allowing water to pass but
immediately failed when the trigger on the gun was released to stop the
water flow.

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On 08/03/2024 16:05, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 08/03/2024 11:57, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>
>>> My existing Hozelock garden hose is beginning to look a bit the
>>> worse for wear, with kinks forming each time I wind it back on
>>> the reel.
>>>
>>> I suppose it is over 20 years old, so not too bad for light
>>> domestic use.
>>>
>>> There seem to be lots of options available now, with prices to
>>> match.
>>>
>>> Part of me is struck by some of the "guarantee" lives being
>>> rather longer than I would expect to be able to witness
>>> personally!
>>>
>>> Any particular recommendations? I need around 30 metres.
>>
>> I have a good quality (10 year guarantee) wilko hose (obv no longer
>> available)
>>
>> When I wanted a longer 3/4" hose, I bought this, resists kinking, lives
>> outdoors in a field and holding up well so far.
>>
>> <https://ebay.co.uk/itm/114814348848>
>
> I thought that the SS-based garden hoses might be a solution to the
> kinking plastic hoses, but they don't seem very durable and leak a bit
> too readily according to some reviews. Also, the internal diameter is
> only 3/8", so the flow rate would be considerably less than that
> obtainable with a normal garden hose:
> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-Steel-Hose/s?k=Stainless+Steel+Hose>
>

Possibly the end attachments are are low quality factory fitted and not
replaceable because of the metal outer skin.

One year I decided to get some fairly expensive brass end fitting for my
taps and hoses. They worked quite well for a while but then it became
more difficult to mate with their other half. I think the problem was
limescale. It sticks to the brass/metal and gums up the moving "click"
parts. Rather than plastic springs the brass fittings had ball bearings
with springs behind them.
With a good quality plastic part the limescale doesn't stick and is
cleaned off every time two parts are mated.

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alan_m wrote:

>One year I decided to get some fairly expensive brass end fitting for my
>taps and hoses. They worked quite well for a while but then it became
>more difficult to mate with their other half.

I have several sets from Aldi's middle aisle, and they appear to
be performing better than my older plastic ones.

A supply of "O" rings is also useful.

Chris
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chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

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On 13/03/2024 08:47, alan_m wrote:
> On 08/03/2024 16:05, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 08/03/2024 11:57, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>>
>>>> My existing Hozelock garden hose is beginning to look a bit the
>>>> worse for wear, with kinks forming each time I wind it back on
>>>> the reel.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose it is over 20 years old, so not too bad for light
>>>> domestic use.
>>>>
>>>> There seem to be lots of options available now, with prices to
>>>> match.
>>>>
>>>> Part of me is struck by some of the "guarantee" lives being
>>>> rather longer than I would expect to be able to witness
>>>> personally!
>>>>
>>>> Any particular recommendations? I need around 30 metres.
>>>
>>> I have a good quality (10 year guarantee) wilko hose (obv no longer
>>> available)
>>>
>>> When I wanted a longer 3/4" hose, I bought this, resists kinking, lives
>>> outdoors in a field and holding up well so far.
>>>
>>> <https://ebay.co.uk/itm/114814348848>
>>
>> I thought that the SS-based garden hoses might be a solution to the
>> kinking plastic hoses, but they don't seem very durable and leak a bit
>> too readily according to some reviews. Also, the internal diameter is
>> only 3/8", so the flow rate would be considerably less than that
>> obtainable with a normal garden hose:
>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-Steel-Hose/s?k=Stainless+Steel+Hose>
>>
>
> Possibly very similar to flexi hoses for plumbing.  The inner tube may
> not have a thick wall. Plumbing flexi hoses tend to only be flexed when
> installed but they can have a short life if physically twisted/kinked
> when fitting. I would expect a long hose of this type to be twisted when
> in use.
>
> I have a couple of hoses and one kinks as soon as you look at it. It's
> made of very soft material and, without water, is easily flattened
> between thumb and finger. The other doesn't kink and is a LOT stiffer
> but the downside is that it tends to have memory of how it was wound in
> the reel. Ok on a hot summer days but a tiny bit of a PITY when trying
> to extend it to full length in cooler weather.
> There was a big difference with the ease of fitting the end attachments
> with the latter having to be softened in boiling water before it would
> fit over the attachment.

Yes, I've got a hose like that. It does fight back a bit in cold
weather, but on the other hand, I must have had it more than 20 years -
it's seen two reels out in that time.

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:57:54 +1100, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
wrote:

> alan_m wrote:
>
>> One year I decided to get some fairly expensive brass end fitting for my
>> taps and hoses. They worked quite well for a while but then it became
>> more difficult to mate with their other half.
>
> I have several sets from Aldi's middle aisle, and they appear to
> be performing better than my older plastic ones.

My brass ones from Aldi are very good, but so are the older plastic ones.
I bought the best plastic ones tho.

> A supply of "O" rings is also useful.

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