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On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 05:04:19 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 04:45:32 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 04:54:49 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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On 13/03/2024 17:59, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:04:40 +1100, Colin Bignell
> <cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 13/03/2024 10:21, Max Demian wrote:
>>> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me guess?  "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>>>>>> ice-cream"
>>>>>
>>>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>>>> suggestion.
>>>  Why didn't the Romans use soap? The Celts had it.
>>>
>>
>> The Romans would have known of soap from the Greeks, but it was a very
>> expensive luxury item and oil was a lot cheaper.
>
> In fact they used the soap from the Gauls once they came across it
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap#Roman_Empire

Soap made from tallow and ashes is what Elizabethans called grey soap.
Apparently it was quite smelly, presumably because of the tallow.

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On 13/03/2024 18:29, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 13/03/2024 17:59, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:04:40 +1100, Colin Bignell
>> <cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/03/2024 10:21, Max Demian wrote:
>>>> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>>>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me guess?  "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>>>>>>> ice-cream"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>>>>> suggestion.
>>>>  Why didn't the Romans use soap? The Celts had it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Romans would have known of soap from the Greeks, but it was a
>>> very expensive luxury item and oil was a lot cheaper.
>>
>> In fact they used the soap from the Gauls once they came across it
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap#Roman_Empire
>
> Soap made from tallow and ashes is what Elizabethans called grey soap.
> Apparently it was quite smelly, presumably because of the tallow.
>
Lye soap could be made from any fat. Lye is simply ashes and water
mixed, and strained.

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On 13/03/2024 18:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 13/03/2024 18:29, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 13/03/2024 17:59, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:04:40 +1100, Colin Bignell
>>> <cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 13/03/2024 10:21, Max Demian wrote:
>>>>> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>>>>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me guess?  "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>>>>>>>> ice-cream"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>>>>>> suggestion.
>>>>>  Why didn't the Romans use soap? The Celts had it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Romans would have known of soap from the Greeks, but it was a
>>>> very expensive luxury item and oil was a lot cheaper.
>>>
>>> In fact they used the soap from the Gauls once they came across it
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap#Roman_Empire
>>
>> Soap made from tallow and ashes is what Elizabethans called grey soap.
>> Apparently it was quite smelly, presumably because of the tallow.
>>
> Lye soap could be made from any fat. Lye is simply ashes and water
> mixed, and strained.

Indeed, but the fat chosen does affect the finished product. They also
had black soap, made from train oil, extracted from whales. That was
also smelly and only used on the coarsest cloths. Their highest quality
soap, used for lawn and other fine fabrics, was imported from Castile
and made using olive oil.

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On 13 Mar 2024 at 18:57:19 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 13/03/2024 18:29, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 13/03/2024 17:59, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:04:40 +1100, Colin Bignell
>>> <cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 13/03/2024 10:21, Max Demian wrote:
>>>>> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>>>>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>>>>>>>> ice-cream"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>>>>>> suggestion.
>>>>> Why didn't the Romans use soap? The Celts had it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Romans would have known of soap from the Greeks, but it was a
>>>> very expensive luxury item and oil was a lot cheaper.
>>>
>>> In fact they used the soap from the Gauls once they came across it
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap#Roman_Empire
>>
>> Soap made from tallow and ashes is what Elizabethans called grey soap.
>> Apparently it was quite smelly, presumably because of the tallow.
>>
> Lye soap could be made from any fat. Lye is simply ashes and water
> mixed, and strained.

Which presumably gives you some weak solution of potassium hydroxide. Mix that
with any fat to make soap.

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Am 13/03/2024 um 17:03 schrieb Custos Custodum:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:08:19 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
> <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ** >
>>>>> ** https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>
>>>> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling ice-cream"
>>>
>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>
>>
>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>> suggestion.
>
> We rejected the idea of communal latrines (bring your own sponge on a
> stick). Except at Scout camps.

It speaks volumes that you mistake baths for latrines. After all, you
folks don't use the bidet.

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On 14/03/2024 09:57, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

>
> It speaks volumes that you mistake baths for latrines. After all, you
> folks don't use the bidet.
>

I assume that bidets suffer from the same plumbing problems where
hot/warm water takes a while to get to the device if the pipe run length
is medium/long from the boiler or tank.

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Am 14/03/2024 um 10:10 schrieb alan_m:
> On 14/03/2024 09:57, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>
>
>>
>> It speaks volumes that you mistake baths for latrines. After all, you
>> folks don't use the bidet.
>>
>
> I assume that bidets suffer from the same plumbing problems where
> hot/warm water takes a while to get to the device if the pipe run length
> is medium/long from the boiler or tank.
>

Confessing I am not a bidet fundamentalist, I tend to think a bidet
should be performed at either cold or just lukewarm/tepid. I wouldn't
want 60 C spluttered over my precious. Bath is different, I want it
really hot.

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On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 09:57:59 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
<ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Am 13/03/2024 um 17:03 schrieb Custos Custodum:
>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:08:19 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
>> <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ** >
>>>>>> ** https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling ice-cream"
>>>>
>>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>>> suggestion.
>>
>> We rejected the idea of communal latrines (bring your own sponge on a
>> stick). Except at Scout camps.
>
>It speaks volumes that you mistake baths for latrines. After all, you
>folks don't use the bidet.

No mistake - just contrasting good and bad ideas. And it's not true
that we are "soap dodgers". In fact, we have soaps for every part of
the body, e.g.:

https://chateaudusavon.com/products/125g-savon-de-marseille-fanny
You can use it on your face as well.