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* Maintenance free cable connectorRJH
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From: patchmoney@gmx.com (RJH)
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 by: RJH - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 02:35 UTC

Is there such a thing? I don't fancy crimping/soldering, and the Wago versions
seem vague on whether this sort of thing can be used maintenance free:

https://www.wago.com/gb/installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/push-wire-inline-splicing-connector/p/2773-2401#details
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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 by: alan_m - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:32 UTC

On 20/03/2024 02:35, RJH wrote:
> Is there such a thing? I don't fancy crimping/soldering, and the Wago versions
> seem vague on whether this sort of thing can be used maintenance free:
>
> https://www.wago.com/gb/installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/push-wire-inline-splicing-connector/p/2773-2401#details

When fitted in the correct box

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpM2_3gSBhg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7KW2QOfpN8

Mounting plates from
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA2503.html

I've used different 221 Wagos in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy4Vj2RN04Y

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0jLdonm1NL4?

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/QFJB3.html

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 by: SH - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:36 UTC

On 20/03/2024 02:35, RJH wrote:
> Is there such a thing? I don't fancy crimping/soldering, and the Wago versions
> seem vague on whether this sort of thing can be used maintenance free:
>
> https://www.wago.com/gb/installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/push-wire-inline-splicing-connector/p/2773-2401#details

The following Wago range is maintenance free and there are also wago
boxes to put the connectors into.

https://www.toolstation.com/electrical-supplies-accessories/cable-connectors-terminals/c1133?brand=Wago

and

https://www.toolstation.com/electrical-supplies-accessories/cable-connectors-terminals/c1133?brand=Wago&page=2

and

https://www.toolstation.com/search?q=wago+box

I also use these:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/tcl/search?query=maintenance+free+junction+box

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From: patchmoney@gmx.com (RJH)
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 by: RJH - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:42 UTC

On 20 Mar 2024 at 08:32:15 GMT, alan_m wrote:

> On 20/03/2024 02:35, RJH wrote:
>> Is there such a thing? I don't fancy crimping/soldering, and the Wago versions
>> seem vague on whether this sort of thing can be used maintenance free:
>>
>> https://www.wago.com/gb/installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/push-wire-inline-splicing-connector/p/2773-2401#details
>
>
> When fitted in the correct box
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpM2_3gSBhg
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7KW2QOfpN8
>
> Mounting plates from
> https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA2503.html
>
> I've used different 221 Wagos in
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy4Vj2RN04Y
>
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0jLdonm1NL4?
>
> https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/QFJB3.html

Really helpful, thanks.

Can't seem to find MF kits of inline 221 connectors/carriers/boxes, so works
out quite expensive, but hey . . .
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 by: RJH - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:47 UTC

On 20 Mar 2024 at 08:36:04 GMT, SH wrote:

> On 20/03/2024 02:35, RJH wrote:
>> Is there such a thing? I don't fancy crimping/soldering, and the Wago versions
>> seem vague on whether this sort of thing can be used maintenance free:
>>
>> https://www.wago.com/gb/installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/push-wire-inline-splicing-connector/p/2773-2401#details
>
>
> The following Wago range is maintenance free and there are also wago
> boxes to put the connectors into.
>
> https://www.toolstation.com/electrical-supplies-accessories/cable-connectors-terminals/c1133?brand=Wago
>
> and
>
> https://www.toolstation.com/electrical-supplies-accessories/cable-connectors-terminals/c1133?brand=Wago&page=2
>
> and
>
> https://www.toolstation.com/search?q=wago+box
>
> I also use these:
>
> https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/tcl/search?query=maintenance+free+junction+box

Many thanks - that last one (Ashley J804) looks neat/easy.

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 by: Tricky Dicky - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 14:48 UTC

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> Is there such a thing? I don't fancy crimping/soldering, and the Wago versions
> seem vague on whether this sort of thing can be used maintenance free:
>
> https://www.wago.com/gb/installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/push-wire-inline-splicing-connector/p/2773-2401#details

The ability to use Wago’s in a maintenance free situation is clearly
outlined on the leaflet that comes with a Wago box.

Depending on current and maximum aggregate current the 773 series of push
fit connectors should be used. So for instance a ring main with a 32A
breaker would require 773-173 connectors and the Wago box lid secured a
cable tie in the locking point.

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 by: RJH - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 15:31 UTC

On 20 Mar 2024 at 14:48:29 GMT, Tricky Dicky wrote:

> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Is there such a thing? I don't fancy crimping/soldering, and the Wago versions
>> seem vague on whether this sort of thing can be used maintenance free:
>>
>> https://www.wago.com/gb/installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/push-wire-inline-splicing-connector/p/2773-2401#details
>
> The ability to use Wago’s in a maintenance free situation is clearly
> outlined on the leaflet that comes with a Wago box.
>

OK thanks. Couldn't see a pdf of the leaflet on the web site, which seemed
odd. What's there just seems to allude to maintenance free without actually
using those words.

> Depending on current and maximum aggregate current the 773 series of push
> fit connectors should be used. So for instance a ring main with a 32A
> breaker would require 773-173 connectors and the Wago box lid secured a
> cable tie in the locking point.

Yep - the videos posted elsewhere in this thread give a good overview.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 20 Mar 2024 at 14:48:29 GMT, Tricky Dicky wrote:
>
>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> Is there such a thing? I don't fancy crimping/soldering, and the Wago versions
>>> seem vague on whether this sort of thing can be used maintenance free:
>>>
>>> https://www.wago.com/gb/installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/push-wire-inline-splicing-connector/p/2773-2401#details
>>
>> The ability to use Wago’s in a maintenance free situation is clearly
>> outlined on the leaflet that comes with a Wago box.
>>
>
> OK thanks. Couldn't see a pdf of the leaflet on the web site, which seemed
> odd. What's there just seems to allude to maintenance free without actually
> using those words.
>
>> Depending on current and maximum aggregate current the 773 series of push
>> fit connectors should be used. So for instance a ring main with a 32A
>> breaker would require 773-173 connectors and the Wago box lid secured a
>> cable tie in the locking point.
>
> Yep - the videos posted elsewhere in this thread give a good overview.
>

Below are links to the documentation that came with my Wago boxes and the
Wago Box XLR has similar information about MF.

The 773 series seems to have been replaced with the 2773 series and the
information has changed slightly. The 773 series is still available or was
until recently from electrical wholesalers, I got mine from CEF who if you
did not want an entire box of 100 do sell boxes of 5.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9ciqu089xv8etqm6ok6vz/2024-03-21-13.02.05.jpg?rlkey=w3tf647ukrx7xcrcbjciyy8ym&dl=0

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 by: RJH - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 18:31 UTC

On 21 Mar 2024 at 13:19:40 GMT, Tricky Dicky wrote:

> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 20 Mar 2024 at 14:48:29 GMT, Tricky Dicky wrote:
>>
>>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> Is there such a thing? I don't fancy crimping/soldering, and the Wago versions
>>>> seem vague on whether this sort of thing can be used maintenance free:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.wago.com/gb/installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/push-wire-inline-splicing-connector/p/2773-2401#details
>>>
>>> The ability to use Wago’s in a maintenance free situation is clearly
>>> outlined on the leaflet that comes with a Wago box.
>>>
>>
>> OK thanks. Couldn't see a pdf of the leaflet on the web site, which seemed
>> odd. What's there just seems to allude to maintenance free without actually
>> using those words.
>>
>>> Depending on current and maximum aggregate current the 773 series of push
>>> fit connectors should be used. So for instance a ring main with a 32A
>>> breaker would require 773-173 connectors and the Wago box lid secured a
>>> cable tie in the locking point.
>>
>> Yep - the videos posted elsewhere in this thread give a good overview.
>>
>
> Below are links to the documentation that came with my Wago boxes and the
> Wago Box XLR has similar information about MF.
>
> The 773 series seems to have been replaced with the 2773 series and the
> information has changed slightly. The 773 series is still available or was
> until recently from electrical wholesalers, I got mine from CEF who if you
> did not want an entire box of 100 do sell boxes of 5.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9ciqu089xv8etqm6ok6vz/2024-03-21-13.02.05.jpg?rlkey=w3tf647ukrx7xcrcbjciyy8ym&dl=0
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bzfxap7d39hkbp5ye3cy9/2024-03-21-13.01.50.jpg?rlkey=t8eekp9o8wznh52x10
> 3vcfvem&dl=0

That's good of you, thanks. In the end I got a box of 221 inline connectors
(seemed a lot neater to me) and Light Wagoboxes* - and yes, they came with
leaflets!

Although why they (don't appear to be) online I've no idea.

*4 boxes and 60 connectors came to £35 from Wickes, after 10% 'trade' (I'm not
trade, but they gave me a card anyway) discount. I'm finding that with the
discount Wickes is a fair bit cheaper for most things . . .
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 22 Mar 2024 08:14 UTC

RJH wrote:

> Is there such a thing? I don't fancy crimping/soldering, and the Wago versions
> seem vague on whether this sort of thing can be used maintenance free:
>
> https://www.wago.com/gb/installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/push-wire-inline-splicing-connector/p/2773-2401#details

The Wago connectors, when used in a Wago box, and with some limits on
the total current of all conductors running through the box, can be
maintenance free. I believe that technically the older boxes didn't
have the "MF" code stamped into them, but I wouldn't let that bother me
if I had old stock left to use up ...

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