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* Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet PaperJudith Latham
`* Re: Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paperalan_m
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 | `* Re: Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet PaperMax Demian
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 by: Judith Latham - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 03:31 UTC

Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper

https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper

A fascinating history it is, in deed.

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Judith

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 by: alan_m - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:37 UTC

On 20/03/2024 03:31, Judith Latham wrote:
> Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper
>
> https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper
>
>
> A fascinating history it is, in deed.
>
>
> -----
> Judith

The snowflake generation don't know they've had it so good - bring back
hard Izal toilet paper!

https://retro-hen.com/2018/04/05/izal-toilet-tissue-and-the-cubicle-of-pain/

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 by: Davey - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:02 UTC

On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:37:41 +0000
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On 20/03/2024 03:31, Judith Latham wrote:
> > Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper
> >
> > https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper
> >
> >
> > A fascinating history it is, in deed.
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Judith
>
>
> The snowflake generation don't know they've had it so good - bring
> back hard Izal toilet paper!
>
> https://retro-hen.com/2018/04/05/izal-toilet-tissue-and-the-cubicle-of-pain/
>

With the MOD instruction to 'Use both sides'.

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 by: wasbit - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:17 UTC

On 20/03/2024 08:37, alan_m wrote:
> On 20/03/2024 03:31, Judith Latham wrote:
>> Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper
>>
>> https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper
>>
>>
>>
>> A fascinating history it is, in deed.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Judith
>
>
> The snowflake generation don't know they've had it so good - bring back
> hard Izal toilet paper!
>
> https://retro-hen.com/2018/04/05/izal-toilet-tissue-and-the-cubicle-of-pain/
>

And Bronco
Not the TV series with Ty Hardin as Bronco Layne.

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 by: alan_m - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:32 UTC

On 20/03/2024 10:02, Davey wrote:

>
> With the MOD instruction to 'Use both sides'.
>

https://images.prismic.io/wellcomecollection/d35896024a688a40a4788e506218bdf128e52375_ep000874_0045.jpg?

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 by: Clive Arthur - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:37 UTC

On 20/03/2024 10:02, Davey wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:37:41 +0000
> alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 20/03/2024 03:31, Judith Latham wrote:
>>> Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper
>>>
>>> https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper
>>>
>>>
>>> A fascinating history it is, in deed.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Judith
>>
>>
>> The snowflake generation don't know they've had it so good - bring
>> back hard Izal toilet paper!
>>
>> https://retro-hen.com/2018/04/05/izal-toilet-tissue-and-the-cubicle-of-pain/
>>
>
> With the MOD instruction to 'Use both sides'.
>

'One to wipe, one to polish.'

--
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Clive

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:41 UTC

On 20/03/2024 10:17, wasbit wrote:
> On 20/03/2024 08:37, alan_m wrote:
>> On 20/03/2024 03:31, Judith Latham wrote:
>>> Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper
>>>
>>> https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper
>>>
>>>
>>> A fascinating history it is, in deed.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Judith
>>
>>
>> The snowflake generation don't know they've had it so good - bring
>> back hard Izal toilet paper!
>>
>> https://retro-hen.com/2018/04/05/izal-toilet-tissue-and-the-cubicle-of-pain/
>
> And Bronco
> Not the TV series with Ty Hardin as Bronco Layne.
>
ISTR bronco was a tad less abrasive than Izal

Both were allegedly *waterproof*.
And fell out of favour with modern sewers

As well as guaranteeing scorch marks...

The French had Bidets, We had Izal.

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 by: Max Demian - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 12:02 UTC

On 20/03/2024 08:37, alan_m wrote:
> On 20/03/2024 03:31, Judith Latham wrote:

>> Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper
>>
>> https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper
>>
>>
>> A fascinating history it is, in deed.

> The snowflake generation don't know they've had it so good - bring back
> hard Izal toilet paper!
>
> https://retro-hen.com/2018/04/05/izal-toilet-tissue-and-the-cubicle-of-pain/

In 1983/4 the University of York only provided hard lavatory paper on
campus, so the students set up a "Soft Soc" dedicated to the bulk
purchase of soft tissue.

I don't think even Guests of His Majesty have to use hard paper now.

--
Max Demian

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 by: Max Demian - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 12:03 UTC

On 20/03/2024 11:37, Clive Arthur wrote:
> On 20/03/2024 10:02, Davey wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:37:41 +0000
>> alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 20/03/2024 03:31, Judith Latham wrote:

>>>> Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper
>>>>
>>>> https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A fascinating history it is, in deed.

>>> The snowflake generation don't know they've had it so good - bring
>>> back hard Izal toilet paper!
>>>
>>> https://retro-hen.com/2018/04/05/izal-toilet-tissue-and-the-cubicle-of-pain/
>>>
>>
>> With the MOD instruction to 'Use both sides'.
>>
>
> 'One to wipe, one to polish.'

There's a technique to wipe your bum with a single sheet which is too
tedious to describe. I think it originated in the army.

--
Max Demian

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 by: alan_m - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 12:06 UTC

On 20/03/2024 11:41, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Both were allegedly *waterproof*.

I read something this morning which stated that a drop of water placed
on a sheet of toilet paper took around two hours to be absorbed :)

Para 9 (of 12)
https://wellcomecollection.org/articles/XOsAeBEAAEMRUqpd

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 by: alan_m - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 12:21 UTC

On 20/03/2024 12:03, Max Demian wrote:

>
> There's a technique to wipe your bum with a single sheet which is too
> tedious to describe. I think it originated in the army.

I once went of a industry awareness course for a week run by the army.

The food was lot of army rations. All my shits during this time were
decidedly firm to hard and came out clean without leaving to much
residue. There is possibly something in army (combat) rations that
reduce the need for a shit and possibly make them more dense. I can well
believe that under these circumstances one sheet of bog paper may be
enough.

On a more varied diet with lots of fresh fruit sometimes a whole roll is
not enough :) :) :)

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 by: charles - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:00 UTC

In article <uted3c$1ecd1$1@dont-email.me>,
wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 20/03/2024 08:37, alan_m wrote:
> > On 20/03/2024 03:31, Judith Latham wrote:
> >> Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper
> >>
> >> https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> A fascinating history it is, in deed.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----
> >> Judith
> >
> >
> > The snowflake generation don't know they've had it so good - bring back
> > hard Izal toilet paper!
> >
> > https://retro-hen.com/2018/04/05/izal-toilet-tissue-and-the-cubicle-of-pain/
> >

> And Bronco
> Not the TV series with Ty Hardin as Bronco Layne.

But Bronco - "property of the BBC" was on toilet rolls at TV CEntre

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 by: Tim+ - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:31 UTC

Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>
> There's a technique to wipe your bum with a single sheet which is too
> tedious to describe. I think it originated in the army.
>

To achieve a “single sheet wipe”, first shave your bum hole. You haven’t a
hope in hell of doing it if you’re a tad hirsute down below.

Tim
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 by: Max Demian - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 17:18 UTC

On 20/03/2024 16:31, Tim+ wrote:
> Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>> There's a technique to wipe your bum with a single sheet which is too
>> tedious to describe. I think it originated in the army.
>>
>
> To achieve a “single sheet wipe”, first shave your bum hole. You haven’t a
> hope in hell of doing it if you’re a tad hirsute down below.

You start by folding the sheet in four...

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:37:41 +0000, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 20/03/2024 03:31, Judith Latham wrote:
>> Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper
>>
>> https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper
>>
>>
>> A fascinating history it is, in deed.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Judith
>
>
>The snowflake generation don't know they've had it so good - bring back
>hard Izal toilet paper!
>
>https://retro-hen.com/2018/04/05/izal-toilet-tissue-and-the-cubicle-of-pain/

The shiny side was kinder on the whole.

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 by: Jim the Geordie - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 11:02 UTC

In article <utf5pk$1jqjf$1@dont-email.me>, max_demian@bigfoot.com
says...
>
> On 20/03/2024 16:31, Tim+ wrote:
> > Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >> There's a technique to wipe your bum with a single sheet which is too
> >> tedious to describe. I think it originated in the army.
> >>
> >
> > To achieve a ?single sheet wipe?, first shave your bum hole. You haven?t a
> > hope in hell of doing it if you?re a tad hirsute down below.
>
> You start by folding the sheet in four...

The hearing of the corner to make a hole in the middle?

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 by: Jim the Geordie - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 11:05 UTC

In article <MPG.4066240c6f977abe9896ff@paganini.bofh.team>,
jim@jimXscott.co.uk says...
>
> In article <utf5pk$1jqjf$1@dont-email.me>, max_demian@bigfoot.com
> says...
> >
> > On 20/03/2024 16:31, Tim+ wrote:
> > > Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> There's a technique to wipe your bum with a single sheet which is too
> > >> tedious to describe. I think it originated in the army.
> > >>
> > >
> > > To achieve a ?single sheet wipe?, first shave your bum hole. You haven?t a
> > > hope in hell of doing it if you?re a tad hirsute down below.
> >
> > You start by folding the sheet in four...
>
> The hearing of the corner to make a hole in the middle?

tearing off

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 by: AnthonyL - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:43 UTC

On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:37:41 +0000, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 20/03/2024 03:31, Judith Latham wrote:
>> Shabbat 81 ~ A History of Toilet Paper
>>
>> https://www.talmudology.com/jeremybrownmdgmailcom/2020/5/20/shabbat-81-a-history-of-toilet-paper
>>
>>
>> A fascinating history it is, in deed.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Judith
>
>
>The snowflake generation don't know they've had it so good - bring back
>hard Izal toilet paper!
>
>https://retro-hen.com/2018/04/05/izal-toilet-tissue-and-the-cubicle-of-pain/
>

Nothing wrong with the

https://britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/titles/reveille or the Daily
Herald.

Though I can get why some Asian and Middle Eastern countries do not
understand why we don't always use running water even if from a ladle.

Or European bidets (no, they are not toilets!!). I guess climate and
walking around with a wet bum on a cold winter's day may be factors.

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Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

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 by: Max Demian - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:59 UTC

On 21/03/2024 11:02, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> In article <utf5pk$1jqjf$1@dont-email.me>, max_demian@bigfoot.com
> says...
>> On 20/03/2024 16:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>> Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> There's a technique to wipe your bum with a single sheet which is too
>>>> tedious to describe. I think it originated in the army.

>>> To achieve a ?single sheet wipe?, first shave your bum hole. You haven?t a
>>> hope in hell of doing it if you?re a tad hirsute down below.
>>
>> You start by folding the sheet in four...
>
> The tearing off the corner to make a hole in the middle?

Unfold and insert middle finger through the hole...

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 by: Jim the Geordie - Thu, 21 Mar 2024 19:59 UTC

In article <uthsim$2bkkf$1@dont-email.me>, max_demian@bigfoot.com
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>
> On 21/03/2024 11:02, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> > In article <utf5pk$1jqjf$1@dont-email.me>, max_demian@bigfoot.com
> > says...
> >> On 20/03/2024 16:31, Tim+ wrote:
> >>> Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> There's a technique to wipe your bum with a single sheet which is too
> >>>> tedious to describe. I think it originated in the army.
>
> >>> To achieve a ?single sheet wipe?, first shave your bum hole. You haven?t a
> >>> hope in hell of doing it if you?re a tad hirsute down below.
> >>
> >> You start by folding the sheet in four...
> >
> > The tearing off the corner to make a hole in the middle?
>
> Unfold and insert middle finger through the hole...

What is the little bit you tore out for daddy?

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Jim the Geordie

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 by: Max Demian - Fri, 22 Mar 2024 11:47 UTC

On 21/03/2024 19:59, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> In article <uthsim$2bkkf$1@dont-email.me>, max_demian@bigfoot.com
> says...
>>
>> On 21/03/2024 11:02, Jim the Geordie wrote:
>>> In article <utf5pk$1jqjf$1@dont-email.me>, max_demian@bigfoot.com
>>> says...
>>>> On 20/03/2024 16:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>> Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> There's a technique to wipe your bum with a single sheet which is too
>>>>>> tedious to describe. I think it originated in the army.
>>
>>>>> To achieve a ?single sheet wipe?, first shave your bum hole. You haven?t a
>>>>> hope in hell of doing it if you?re a tad hirsute down below.
>>>>
>>>> You start by folding the sheet in four...
>>>
>>> The tearing off the corner to make a hole in the middle?
>>
>> Unfold and insert middle finger through the hole...
>
> What is the little bit you tore out for daddy?

That's required for the next stage but one.

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 by: Soup - Wed, 24 Apr 2024 22:16 UTC

On 21/03/2024 19:59, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> In article <uthsim$2bkkf$1@dont-email.me>, max_demian@bigfoot.com
> says...
>>
>> On 21/03/2024 11:02, Jim the Geordie wrote:
>>> In article <utf5pk$1jqjf$1@dont-email.me>, max_demian@bigfoot.com
>>> says...
>>>> On 20/03/2024 16:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>> Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> There's a technique to wipe your bum with a single sheet which is too
>>>>>> tedious to describe. I think it originated in the army.
>>
>>>>> To achieve a ?single sheet wipe?, first shave your bum hole. You haven?t a
>>>>> hope in hell of doing it if you?re a tad hirsute down below.
>>>>
>>>> You start by folding the sheet in four...
>>>
>>> The tearing off the corner to make a hole in the middle?
>>
>> Unfold and insert middle finger through the hole...
>
> What is the little bit you tore out for daddy?
>
To clean the 'fuvgr' (rot 13) from under your fingernail.

Alternetly you could carry a roll of 'cumfy bum'.

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