I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no expert.
Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I would be
grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should i do
about them?

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0

On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 15:41:18 -0000 (UTC)
Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:

> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of
> 4 holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our
> locality. They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again
> I am no expert. Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is
> open fields leading down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs
> at the bottom. I would be grateful if anyone can suggest what caused
> these holes and what should i do about them?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>
>

Rats?

--
Davey.

Am 22.03.2024 um 16:41 schrieb Tricky Dicky:
>
> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
> holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
> They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no expert.
> Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
> down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I would be
> grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should i do
> about them?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>
>
Holes, but no moles --> Voles ;-)

Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
>
> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
> holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
> They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no expert.
> Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
> down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I would be
> grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should i do
> about them?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>
>
>

While I’m not an expert on moles, when I have seen them, they have left
hills.

I’ve seen similar holes on caravan sites where there are rabbits but not so
close together.

If they are rabbits, look for them in the early morning and around dusk.
When we are on sites with rabbits, my wife in particular enjoys watching
them around these times.

I like rabbit but I can’t convince my wife to eat it 😊

Tricky Dicky wrote:

> if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should i do
> about them?

more like rabbits, since they aren't coming up from underneath, or
possibly voles

On 22/03/2024 15:54, Matthias Czech wrote:
> Am 22.03.2024 um 16:41 schrieb Tricky Dicky:
>>
>> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
>> holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
>> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
>> They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no
>> expert.
>> Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
>> down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I
>> would be
>> grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should
>> i do
>> about them?
>>
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>>
>>
> Holes, but no moles --> Voles ;-)

foxes digging

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alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 22/03/2024 15:54, Matthias Czech wrote:
>> Am 22.03.2024 um 16:41 schrieb Tricky Dicky:
>>>
>>> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
>>> holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
>>> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
>>> They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no
>>> expert.
>>> Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
>>> down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I
>>> would be
>>> grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should
>>> i do
>>> about them?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>>>
>>>
>> Holes, but no moles --> Voles ;-)
>
> foxes digging
>

The openings are about the size of a tennis ball and just look like pits
and I cannot see any tunnels leading off but then again I have not put my
hand down to have a feel around for obvious reasons. We do get foxes
visiting every night and SWAMBO has set up a feeding station nearby so that
seems favourite at the moment.

On 22/03/2024 15:41, Tricky Dicky wrote:
>
> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
> holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
> They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no expert.
> Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
> down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I would be
> grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should i do
> about them?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>
>
Rats or rabbits. Pee in the holes

--
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man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him."

- Leo Tolstoy

On 22/03/2024 16:18, Tricky Dicky wrote:
> alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 22/03/2024 15:54, Matthias Czech wrote:
>>> Am 22.03.2024 um 16:41 schrieb Tricky Dicky:
>>>>
>>>> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
>>>> holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
>>>> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
>>>> They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no
>>>> expert.
>>>> Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
>>>> down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I
>>>> would be
>>>> grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should
>>>> i do
>>>> about them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Holes, but no moles --> Voles ;-)
>>
>> foxes digging
>>
>
> The openings are about the size of a tennis ball and just look like pits
> and I cannot see any tunnels leading off but then again I have not put my
> hand down to have a feel around for obvious reasons. We do get foxes
> visiting every night and SWAMBO has set up a feeding station nearby so that
> seems favourite at the moment.

I have a few similar holes in my garden and I watched the fox dig them.
I think they are after grubs/worms etc.

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On 22/03/2024 15:41, Tricky Dicky wrote:
>
> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
> holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
> They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no expert.
> Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
> down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I would be
> grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should i do
> about them?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>
>

Are there drain holes in the retaining wall?

On 22/03/2024 in message <utkb9i$313bu$3@dont-email.me> The Natural
Philosopher wrote:

>On 22/03/2024 15:41, Tricky Dicky wrote:
>>
>>I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
>>holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
>>thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
>>They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no
>>expert.
>>Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
>>down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I would
>>be
>>grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should i
>>do
>>about them?
>>
>>
>>https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>>
>>
>Rats or rabbits. Pee in the holes

If you do be careful they don't jump up and bite you :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Roses are #FF0000, violets are #0000FF
if you can read this, you're a nerd 10.

Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 15:41:18 -0000 (UTC)
> Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
>
>> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of
>> 4 holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
>> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our
>> locality. They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again
>> I am no expert. Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is
>> open fields leading down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs
>> at the bottom. I would be grateful if anyone can suggest what caused
>> these holes and what should i do about them?
>>
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>>
>>
>
> Rats?
>

+1

Don’t look like mole or rabbit holes. Too big for voles. Too tidy for fox.
Common things being common, rats until proved otherwise.

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

On 22/03/2024 15:41, Tricky Dicky wrote:
>
> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
> holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
> They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no expert.
> Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
> down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I would be
> grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should i do
> about them?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>
>
Not sure they're big enough for rabbit holes - but you could find out by
pouring boiling water down them and seeing whether any hot cross buns
emerge.
--
Cheers,
Roger

On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:06:15 +0000, Roger Mills wrote:

> On 22/03/2024 15:41, Tricky Dicky wrote:
>>
>> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
>> holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
>> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our
>> locality.
>> They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no
>> expert.
>> Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields
>> leading down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the
>> bottom. I would be grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these
>> holes and what should i do about them?
>>
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/
bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?
rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>>
>>
> Not sure they're big enough for rabbit holes - but you could find out by
> pouring boiling water down them and seeing whether any hot cross buns
> emerge.

Don't they have ticks these days ?

On 22 Mar 2024 17:09:25 GMT
Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:

> Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 15:41:18 -0000 (UTC)
> > Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series
> >> of 4 holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall.
> >> My first thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles
> >> in our locality. They do not look like traditional mole hills but
> >> then again I am no expert. Just over the fence on the other side
> >> of the lawn is open fields leading down to a steep wooded valley
> >> with two reservoirs at the bottom. I would be grateful if anyone
> >> can suggest what caused these holes and what should i do about
> >> them?
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Rats?
> >
>
> +1
>
> Don’t look like mole or rabbit holes. Too big for voles. Too tidy for
> fox. Common things being common, rats until proved otherwise.
>
> Tim
>

My advice to the OP would be to invest in a trail camera.
Motion-sensitive, stills and/or video, day and night. With mine, I
just remove the memory card and slot it into my PC to view everything
on it.

--
Davey.

On 3/22/2024 3:41 PM, Tricky Dicky wrote:
>
> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series of 4
> holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall. My first
> thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles in our locality.
> They do not look like traditional mole hills but then again I am no expert.
> Just over the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
> down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom. I would be
> grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these holes and what should i do
> about them?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>
>
some sort of holes I think

Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
> On 22 Mar 2024 17:09:25 GMT
> Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
>
>> Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 15:41:18 -0000 (UTC)
>>> Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this series
>>>> of 4 holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a retaining wall.
>>>> My first thought was moles but I have not seen any sign of moles
>>>> in our locality. They do not look like traditional mole hills but
>>>> then again I am no expert. Just over the fence on the other side
>>>> of the lawn is open fields leading down to a steep wooded valley
>>>> with two reservoirs at the bottom. I would be grateful if anyone
>>>> can suggest what caused these holes and what should i do about
>>>> them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Rats?
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Don’t look like mole or rabbit holes. Too big for voles. Too tidy for
>> fox. Common things being common, rats until proved otherwise.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>
> My advice to the OP would be to invest in a trail camera.
> Motion-sensitive, stills and/or video, day and night. With mine, I
> just remove the memory card and slot it into my PC to view everything
> on it.
>

Got fed up with doing that, though I still use a couple of traditional
trail cameras like that I have now got a couple that as the area of concern
is covered by our WIFI they can be accessed through it.
They still have a card but you can play back, extract ,delete, or watch in
real time indoors on a PC or I Pad. And i can view them from anywhere
with internet access or phone signal so they can also be positioned as
security cameras if we wish.
The models I have are Naturespy . Saves having to go out in the rain etc .
Obviously you need to have WIFI coverage of the area.

GH

On 24 Mar 2024 00:03:42 GMT
Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:

> Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
> > On 22 Mar 2024 17:09:25 GMT
> > Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
> >
> >> Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 15:41:18 -0000 (UTC)
> >>> Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I cut the lawns for the first time this year and found this
> >>>> series of 4 holes at the edge of the side lawn beside a
> >>>> retaining wall. My first thought was moles but I have not seen
> >>>> any sign of moles in our locality. They do not look like
> >>>> traditional mole hills but then again I am no expert. Just over
> >>>> the fence on the other side of the lawn is open fields leading
> >>>> down to a steep wooded valley with two reservoirs at the bottom.
> >>>> I would be grateful if anyone can suggest what caused these
> >>>> holes and what should i do about them?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bij0i3rgvghas0rjb6gu8/2024-03-22-15.12.39.jpg?rlkey=w0rpb1drxk46rezb4abym58mf&dl=0
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Rats?
> >>>
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Don’t look like mole or rabbit holes. Too big for voles. Too tidy
> >> for fox. Common things being common, rats until proved otherwise.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >
> > My advice to the OP would be to invest in a trail camera.
> > Motion-sensitive, stills and/or video, day and night. With mine, I
> > just remove the memory card and slot it into my PC to view
> > everything on it.
> >
>
> Got fed up with doing that, though I still use a couple of
> traditional trail cameras like that I have now got a couple that as
> the area of concern is covered by our WIFI they can be accessed
> through it. They still have a card but you can play back,
> extract ,delete, or watch in real time indoors on a PC or I Pad.
> And i can view them from anywhere with internet access or phone
> signal so they can also be positioned as security cameras if we wish.
> The models I have are Naturespy . Saves having to go out in the rain
> etc . Obviously you need to have WIFI coverage of the area.
>
> GH
>
>

I'll take a look at that brand, thanks.
--
Davey.

Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
> On 24 Mar 2024 00:03:42 GMT
> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>

>>> My advice to the OP would be to invest in a trail camera.
>>> Motion-sensitive, stills and/or video, day and night. With mine, I
>>> just remove the memory card and slot it into my PC to view
>>> everything on it.
>>>
>>
>> Got fed up with doing that, though I still use a couple of
>> traditional trail cameras like that I have now got a couple that as
>> the area of concern is covered by our WIFI they can be accessed
>> through it. They still have a card but you can play back,
>> extract ,delete, or watch in real time indoors on a PC or I Pad.
>> And i can view them from anywhere with internet access or phone
>> signal so they can also be positioned as security cameras if we wish.
>> The models I have are Naturespy . Saves having to go out in the rain
>> etc . Obviously you need to have WIFI coverage of the area.
>>

>
> I'll take a look at that brand, thanks.

Only caveat I would add is they don’t trigger quite as fast as normal trail
cameras as there are no side sensors to prearm but for most things they are
fine if positioned carefully.
Also had the occasional lock up which was cured by replacing the supplied
memory card with a good branded one.

GH