https://news.sky.com/story/israel-gaza-hamas-latest-live-updates-war-sky-news-blog-12978800

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Mirjana Spoljaric said she had visited the European Gaza hospital and what she had seen there was "beyond anything that anyone should be in a position to describe".

"What shocked me the most were the children with atrocious injuries and at the same time having lost their parents with no one looking after them," she said.

"We need to provide protection to the civilians in Gaza."

"I met people who have lost limbs because they needed to evacuate between treatments and they lost a hand or a foot because they couldn't be treated in the hospital where they arrived first" she added.

</quotes>

Sad, but this is what happens when you start a war, and further,
use your own civilians as human shields.

The Gazans are not the first to have suffered for making the
wrong choice of leaders. Ask the Germans and Japanese, for
example.

On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 22:20:31 +0000 (UTC)
Loose Cannon <efbregg73@gmx-xx.comm> wrote:

> Sad, but this is what happens when you start a war, and further,
> use your own civilians as human shields.

Other propaganda is available.

On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 22:20:31 +0000 (UTC)
Loose Cannon <efbregg73@gmx-xx.comm> wrote:

> The Gazans are not the first to have suffered for making the
> wrong choice of leaders.

That's the argument Osama bin-Laden used to legitimise 9-11, that no civilian is innocent of the sins and crimes of their leaders, even if they didn't put them into power.

It's the argument terrorists use to legitimise their murder of civilians when they engage in revenge attacks for what their leaders have done.

It doesn't surprise me to find a fascists like yourself parroting the dogma of other fascists. It's what fascists do.

In article <20231205094606.00004cb9@ntlworld.invalid>,
The Happy Hippy <the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.invalid> wrote:

> Loose Cannon <efbregg73@gmx-xx.comm> wrote:

>> The Gazans are not the first to have suffered for making the
>> wrong choice of leaders.

> That's the argument Osama bin-Laden used to legitimise 9-11,

Tell your Hamas baby-murdering heroes not to start wars, and if they
do, not to hide among their civilians.

What don't you understand, piglet? Sigh.

On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 10:39:45 +0000 (UTC)
Loose Cannon <efbregg73@gmx-xx.comm> wrote:

> What don't you understand, piglet?

What I don't understand is how Israel, born out of the Holocaust, can be so evil as to inflict such harm on the innocent people of Gaza, can choose to believe that murdering babies, children, mothers and fathers, is entirely acceptable.

If not understanding why anyone would choose to be evil makes me a "piglet" then so be it.

Better to be called "piglet" than be someone who embraces evil, someone who cheers for evil, someone doesn't even see murdering babies and children as evil.

It's sickening how you rail at those who considered a ten year-old to be fair game for having a joke thrown in their direction but you don't have even one word of criticism for Israel's murder of babies and children. Instead you are an apologist and cheer leader for those murders.

You are the real "piglet" here.

In article <20231205105435.000070bb@ntlworld.invalid>,
The Happy Hippy <the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.invalid> wrote:

>> What don't you understand, piglet?

> What I don't understand is

Here, let me help you (AGAIN). It's simple, nothing like percentages
or the concept of infinity which are way beyond your level of
comprehension.

<quote>

This is what happens when a nation

1) Starts a war against a neighboring nation, with an invasion during
which thousands of rockets are fired at civilians all over the
neighboring nation, about 1,000 civilians are brutally murdered, and
numerous others, including babies, women, children, and elderly are
abducted.

2) Uses its own civilians as human shields, on a massive scale.

Go and whine to your Hamas heroes. But I doubt they'll listen; they
are already saying they will do it again.

</quote>

On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 11:03:50 +0000 (UTC)
Loose Cannon <efbregg73@gmx-xx.comm> wrote:

> In article <20231205105435.000070bb@ntlworld.invalid>,
> The Happy Hippy <the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> What don't you understand, piglet?
>
>> What I don't understand is how Israel, born out of the Holocaust, can
>> be so evil as to inflict such harm on the innocent people of Gaza,
>> can choose to believe that murdering babies, children, mothers and
>> fathers, is entirely acceptable.
>>
>> If not understanding why anyone would choose to be evil makes me a
>> "piglet" then so be it.
>>
>> Better to be called "piglet" than be someone who embraces evil,
>> someone who cheers for evil, someone doesn't even see murdering
>> babies and children as evil.
>>
>> It's sickening how you rail at those who considered a ten year-old to
>> be fair game for having a joke thrown in their direction but you
>> don't have even one word of criticism for Israel's murder of babies
>> and children. Instead you are an apologist and cheer leader for those
>> murders.
>>
>> You are the real "piglet" here.
>
>
> Here, let me help you (AGAIN). It's simple, nothing like percentages
> or the concept of infinity which are way beyond your level of
> comprehension.

Yet more of your tedious trolling and unfounded claims that I don't understand percentages or that infinity is beyond my comprehension. Just saying it's so doesn't make it so, but that's what trolls do. Anything to detract from the evil Israel does I guess, anything to demonise the messenger when you don't like the message.

And I don't accept your excuse making which seeks to justify Israel being evil.

The evil Israel does has to be set against the requirements of International Law, the Rules of Law, the Geneva Convention, which Israel is blatantly ignoring.

Put it this way; if there were a Hamas operative hiding out in one of America's hotels, running Hamas operations in Gaza via an internet connection, you are claiming it would be justified to bomb the hotel, murder all the thousands of innocent Americans and others in that hotel, and it would be Hamas's fault for using those Americans as human shields.

You can consider it entirely acceptable to inflict another 9-11 on innocent Americans but I don't.

No decent person would.