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 by: The Happy Hippy - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 12:13 UTC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67657837

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Emmanuel Macron has been accused of betraying the French Republic after he took part in a Jewish ceremony inside his official residence, the Elysée Palace.

In a country where the separation of religion is itself a religion, the lighting of a Hanukkah candle inside the historic Salle des Fêtes on Thursday was immediately denounced by politicians of both right and left.

"As far as I know this is the first time this has ever happened. It is a breach of secularism," said David Lisnard, a prominent right-wing opposition figure who is also mayor of Cannes.

"The Elysée is not a place of religion. You cannot compromise with secularism," said the Socialist president of the Occitania region, Carole Delga.

Even some French Jews were perplexed. "This is something that shouldn't be allowed to happen again," said Yonathan Arfi who heads the Representative Council of French Jewish Institutions.

"French Jews have always considered secularism as a law of protection and of freedom. Anything that weakens secularism weakens Jews," he said.

The idea of "secularism" was put into a French law of 1905, after years of struggle between the state and the Roman Catholic Church.

The law has since come to be regarded as a cornerstone of modern France, ensuring strict neutrality between Christianity, Islam and Judaism, and guaranteeing that citizens are seen as individuals-in-a-state and not as members-in-a-community.

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It is difficult t not to see Macron as having betrayed France.

Even harder to see where he goes from here now he's been seen as favouring Judaism over other religions and secularism.

He can't even offer equal treatment to other religions as that would be completely contradictory to France's principle of secularism.

Macron has basically fucked himself.

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 by: TWP - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 03:59 UTC

On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 12:13:48 +0000, The Happy Hippy wrote:

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67657837
>
> <quotes>
>
> Emmanuel Macron has been accused of betraying the French Republic after
> he took part in a Jewish ceremony inside his official residence, the
> Elysée Palace.
>
> In a country where the separation of religion is itself a religion, the
> lighting of a Hanukkah candle inside the historic Salle des Fêtes on
> Thursday was immediately denounced by politicians of both right and
> left.
>
> "As far as I know this is the first time this has ever happened. It is a
> breach of secularism," said David Lisnard, a prominent right-wing
> opposition figure who is also mayor of Cannes.
>
> "The Elysée is not a place of religion. You cannot compromise with
> secularism," said the Socialist president of the Occitania region,
> Carole Delga.
>
> Even some French Jews were perplexed. "This is something that shouldn't
> be allowed to happen again," said Yonathan Arfi who heads the
> Representative Council of French Jewish Institutions.
>
> "French Jews have always considered secularism as a law of protection
> and of freedom. Anything that weakens secularism weakens Jews," he said.
>
> The idea of "secularism" was put into a French law of 1905, after years
> of struggle between the state and the Roman Catholic Church.
>
> The law has since come to be regarded as a cornerstone of modern France,
> ensuring strict neutrality between Christianity, Islam and Judaism, and
> guaranteeing that citizens are seen as individuals-in-a-state and not as
> members-in-a-community.
>
> </quotes>
>
> It is difficult t not to see Macron as having betrayed France.
>
> Even harder to see where he goes from here now he's been seen as
> favouring Judaism over other religions and secularism.
>
> He can't even offer equal treatment to other religions as that would be
> completely contradictory to France's principle of secularism.
>
> Macron has basically fucked himself.

He must have thought it was a good idea for some reason. Maybe it's to
prove to France's Jews that they're a priority. He also possibly feared
how it might be portrayed if he didn't do it.

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 by: JeSSe - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 04:27 UTC

TWP wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 12:13:48 +0000, The Happy Hippy wrote:
>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67657837
>>
>> <quotes>
>>
>> Emmanuel Macron has been accused of betraying the French Republic after
>> he took part in a Jewish ceremony inside his official residence, the
>> Elysée Palace.
>>
>> In a country where the separation of religion is itself a religion, the
>> lighting of a Hanukkah candle inside the historic Salle des Fêtes on
>> Thursday was immediately denounced by politicians of both right and
>> left.
>>
>> "As far as I know this is the first time this has ever happened. It is a
>> breach of secularism," said David Lisnard, a prominent right-wing
>> opposition figure who is also mayor of Cannes.
>>
>> "The Elysée is not a place of religion. You cannot compromise with
>> secularism," said the Socialist president of the Occitania region,
>> Carole Delga.
>>
>> Even some French Jews were perplexed. "This is something that shouldn't
>> be allowed to happen again," said Yonathan Arfi who heads the
>> Representative Council of French Jewish Institutions.
>>
>> "French Jews have always considered secularism as a law of protection
>> and of freedom. Anything that weakens secularism weakens Jews," he said.
>>
>> The idea of "secularism" was put into a French law of 1905, after years
>> of struggle between the state and the Roman Catholic Church.
>>
>> The law has since come to be regarded as a cornerstone of modern France,
>> ensuring strict neutrality between Christianity, Islam and Judaism, and
>> guaranteeing that citizens are seen as individuals-in-a-state and not as
>> members-in-a-community.
>>
>> </quotes>
>>
>> It is difficult t not to see Macron as having betrayed France.
>>
>> Even harder to see where he goes from here now he's been seen as
>> favouring Judaism over other religions and secularism.
>>
>> He can't even offer equal treatment to other religions as that would be
>> completely contradictory to France's principle of secularism.
>>
>> Macron has basically fucked himself.
>
>
> He must have thought it was a good idea for some reason. Maybe it's to
> prove to France's Jews that they're a priority. He also possibly feared
> how it might be portrayed if he didn't do it.

Obviously an attempt at pandering, playing both sides of the fence.

While denouncing the jews attacks in gaza and calling loudly for a cease
fire, look how nice he treats the jews in france !

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light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

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 by: The Happy Hippy - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 15:03 UTC

On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 03:59:48 GMT
TWP <ngspammersad@yahoo.com> wrote:

> He must have thought it was a good idea for some reason. Maybe it's
> to prove to France's Jews that they're a priority.

Many believe it was exactly that, and that's very problematical.

> He also possibly
> feared how it might be portrayed if he didn't do it.

I am sure he did. I believe it was more to prove he supported Jews since legitimate criticisms he made on Israel's murders and slaughter, her war crimes and abuses, have been defined to be hate crime and anti-Semitic by Israel and her fanboys.

I am sure you have noticed there's been a very proactive campaign by Israel and her supporters to punish, cancel, side-line, and silence anyone who has any criticism of what Israel is doing.

Macron isn't immune from that. Nor any world leaders. Mandatory support of Israel is an existential threat to democracy and free will.

America knew that decades ago. It's why she chose to be Israel's bitch and unconditionally support her in anything she does, protect her from others who won't be Israel's bitch, as America has done since the State of Israel was created, still does today.

Macron is just trying to save his own skin. Just as Musk was forced to do when he flew into Israel after supporting far-right anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

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 by: The Happy Hippy - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 15:07 UTC

On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 23:27:36 -0500
JeSSe <zo@so.org> wrote:

> > He must have thought it was a good idea for some reason. Maybe
> > it's to prove to France's Jews that they're a priority. He also
> > possibly feared how it might be portrayed if he didn't do it.
>
> Obviously an attempt at pandering, playing both sides of the fence.

Indeed. Exactly as Biden has done.

Suella Braverman at least had the balls to throw her full support behind Israel by defining any criticism of Israel's murder, slaughter and war crimes as "hate speech", anti-Semitic, criminal.

That's how Israel's bitches are expected to behave.

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 by: JeSSe - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 18:41 UTC

The Herpes Hippy wrote:
> Just as Musk was forced to do when he flew into Israel after supporting far-right anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

Lol, you complaining about anti jew anything is like a millipede
complaining about legs

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