Nice letter in today's Times:

TERRIFYING PURSUIT
Sir, It must be terrifying to be involved in a lengthy “near
catastrophic” high-speed chase by a large pack of aggressive, relentless
and highly mobile pursuers, even if the incident did not prove fatal or
result in any injuries. My thoughts are therefore very much with Janet
Morris and Stephen Bidwell, whose 46ft yacht was chased by a pod of at
least six killer whales for an hour off the coast of Tangier (report,
May 18).

Giles Whiting
Taunton, Somerset

SOmeone commented, and I replied:

LGardiner
Excellent and amusing letter from G Whiting.

Roger BrriTilbury
Indeed. And very appropriately named too for a fishy story (H and
Megrim, not the Orcas).

On 19/05/2023 11:21, BrritSki wrote:
> Nice letter in today's Times:
>
> TERRIFYING PURSUIT
> Sir, It must be terrifying to be involved in a lengthy “near
> catastrophic” high-speed chase by a large pack of aggressive, relentless
> and highly mobile pursuers, even if the incident did not prove fatal or
> result in any injuries. My thoughts are therefore very much with Janet
> Morris and Stephen Bidwell, whose 46ft yacht was chased by a pod of at
> least six killer whales for an hour off the coast of Tangier (report,
> May 18).
>
> Giles Whiting
> Taunton, Somerset
>
> SOmeone commented, and I replied:
>
> LGardiner
> Excellent and amusing letter from G Whiting.
>
> Roger BrriTilbury
> Indeed. And very appropriately named too for a fishy story (H and
> Megrim, not the Orcas).

Did the orcas think Janet and Stephen would make a Set Asian meal?

john

On 19/05/2023 11:21, BrritSki wrote:
> Nice letter in today's Times:
>
> TERRIFYING PURSUIT
> Sir, It must be terrifying to be involved in a lengthy “near
> catastrophic” high-speed chase by a large pack of aggressive, relentless
> and highly mobile pursuers, even if the incident did not prove fatal or
> result in any injuries. My thoughts are therefore very much with Janet
> Morris and Stephen Bidwell, whose 46ft yacht was chased by a pod of at
> least six killer whales for an hour off the coast of Tangier (report,
> May 18).
>
> Giles Whiting
> Taunton, Somerset
>
> SOmeone commented, and I replied:
>
> LGardiner
> Excellent and amusing letter from G Whiting.
>
> Roger BrriTilbury
> Indeed. And very appropriately named too for a fishy story (H and
> Megrim, not the Orcas).

For some reason I can't account for, I was pondering the H & M story in
the early sleepless hours of this morning. My thoughts were along these
lines:

If I drive through town at a moderate speed and other cars follow me,
they are simply following me and it's probably not at all dangerous and
now worthy of an item in News broadcasts. On the other hand, if I drive
at considerable speed and other cars follow me it is almost certainly
dangerous and might well end up as a News item.

So unless I want to end up headlining the News I will take care to drive
at a moderate speed and not give a toss for the people following me.
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 19/05/2023 11:21, BrritSki wrote:
>> Nice letter in today's Times:
>>
>> TERRIFYING PURSUIT
>> Sir, It must be terrifying to be involved in a lengthy “near
>> catastrophic” high-speed chase by a large pack of aggressive, relentless
>> and highly mobile pursuers, even if the incident did not prove fatal or
>> result in any injuries. My thoughts are therefore very much with Janet
>> Morris and Stephen Bidwell, whose 46ft yacht was chased by a pod of at
>> least six killer whales for an hour off the coast of Tangier (report,
>> May 18).
>>
>> Giles Whiting
>> Taunton, Somerset
>>
>> SOmeone commented, and I replied:
>>
>> LGardiner
>> Excellent and amusing letter from G Whiting.
>>
>> Roger BrriTilbury
>> Indeed. And very appropriately named too for a fishy story (H and
>> Megrim, not the Orcas).
>
> For some reason I can't account for, I was pondering the H & M story in
> the early sleepless hours of this morning. My thoughts were along these
> lines:
>
> If I drive through town at a moderate speed and other cars follow me,
> they are simply following me and it's probably not at all dangerous and
> now worthy of an item in News broadcasts. On the other hand, if I drive
> at considerable speed and other cars follow me it is almost certainly
> dangerous and might well end up as a News item.
>
> So unless I want to end up headlining the News I will take care to drive
> at a moderate speed and not give a toss for the people following me.

Or drive very slowly until the drivers behind you get right ex - royally
fed up of it all and overtake or turn off…

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:24:36 AM UTC, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 19/05/2023 11:21, BrritSki wrote:
> > Nice letter in today's Times:
> >
> > TERRIFYING PURSUIT
> > Sir, It must be terrifying to be involved in a lengthy “near
> > catastrophic” high-speed chase by a large pack of aggressive, relentless
> > and highly mobile pursuers, even if the incident did not prove fatal or
> > result in any injuries. My thoughts are therefore very much with Janet
> > Morris and Stephen Bidwell, whose 46ft yacht was chased by a pod of at
> > least six killer whales for an hour off the coast of Tangier (report,
> > May 18).
> >
> > Giles Whiting
> > Taunton, Somerset
> >
> > SOmeone commented, and I replied:
> >
> > LGardiner
> > Excellent and amusing letter from G Whiting.
> >
> > Roger BrriTilbury
> > Indeed. And very appropriately named too for a fishy story (H and
> > Megrim, not the Orcas).
> For some reason I can't account for, I was pondering the H & M story in
> the early sleepless hours of this morning. My thoughts were along these
> lines:
>
> If I drive through town at a moderate speed and other cars follow me,
> they are simply following me and it's probably not at all dangerous and
> now worthy of an item in News broadcasts. On the other hand, if I drive
> at considerable speed and other cars follow me it is almost certainly
> dangerous and might well end up as a News item.
>
> So unless I want to end up headlining the News I will take care to drive
> at a moderate speed and not give a toss for the people following me.
> --
> Jenny M Benson
> Wrexham, UK
It seems that lawyers for the couple have written to the lawyers for the photographic agency and have demanded that they be given the pictures which were taken.

The lawyers for the photographic agency have written back:

"In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps Kings can do.

"Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country long ago.

"We stand by our founding fathers."

See:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65642614

Nick

On 19-May-23 16:58, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:24:36 AM UTC, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>> On 19/05/2023 11:21, BrritSki wrote:
>>> Nice letter in today's Times:
>>>
>>> TERRIFYING PURSUIT
>>> Sir, It must be terrifying to be involved in a lengthy “near
>>> catastrophic” high-speed chase by a large pack of aggressive, relentless
>>> and highly mobile pursuers, even if the incident did not prove fatal or
>>> result in any injuries. My thoughts are therefore very much with Janet
>>> Morris and Stephen Bidwell, whose 46ft yacht was chased by a pod of at
>>> least six killer whales for an hour off the coast of Tangier (report,
>>> May 18).
>>>
>>> Giles Whiting
>>> Taunton, Somerset
>>>
>>> SOmeone commented, and I replied:
>>>
>>> LGardiner
>>> Excellent and amusing letter from G Whiting.
>>>
>>> Roger BrriTilbury
>>> Indeed. And very appropriately named too for a fishy story (H and
>>> Megrim, not the Orcas).
>> For some reason I can't account for, I was pondering the H & M story in
>> the early sleepless hours of this morning. My thoughts were along these
>> lines:
>>
>> If I drive through town at a moderate speed and other cars follow me,
>> they are simply following me and it's probably not at all dangerous and
>> now worthy of an item in News broadcasts. On the other hand, if I drive
>> at considerable speed and other cars follow me it is almost certainly
>> dangerous and might well end up as a News item.
>>
>> So unless I want to end up headlining the News I will take care to drive
>> at a moderate speed and not give a toss for the people following me.
>> --
>> Jenny M Benson
>> Wrexham, UK
> It seems that lawyers for the couple have written to the lawyers for the photographic agency and have demanded that they be given the pictures which were taken.
>
> The lawyers for the photographic agency have written back:
>
> "In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps Kings can do.
>
> "Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country long ago.
>
> "We stand by our founding fathers."
>
> See:
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65642614

If they decided to sue the agency, then they would get access to all
those photographs via 'discovery'.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 19/05/2023 22:00, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 19-May-23 16:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:24:36 AM UTC, Jenny M Benson wrote:

>> It seems that lawyers for the couple have written to the lawyers for
>> the photographic agency and have demanded that they be given the
>> pictures which were taken.
>>
>> The lawyers for the photographic agency have written back:
>>
>> "In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of
>> it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps
>> Kings can do.
>>
>> "Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his
>> English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand
>> over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country long ago.
>>
>> "We stand by our founding fathers."
>>
>> See:
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65642614
>
> If they decided to sue the agency, then they would get access to all
> those photographs via 'discovery'.
>
They still wouldn't own them though or be able to prevent publication -
that's why they want them handed over, not so they can see what's in them.

I'm surprised H&M didn't film the chase themselves as that could settle
the matter unquestionably. :/

On 20/05/2023 09:05, BrritSki wrote:
> On 19/05/2023 22:00, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 19-May-23 16:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:24:36 AM UTC, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>
>>> It seems that lawyers for the couple have written to the lawyers for
>>> the photographic agency and have demanded that they be given the
>>> pictures which were taken.
>>>
>>> The lawyers for the photographic agency have written back:
>>>
>>> "In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of
>>> it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps
>>> Kings can do.
>>>
>>> "Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that
>>> his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry
>>> hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country
>>> long ago.
>>>
>>> "We stand by our founding fathers."
>>>
>>> See:
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65642614
>>
>> If they decided to sue the agency, then they would get access to all
>> those photographs via 'discovery'.
>>
> They still wouldn't own them though or be able to prevent publication -
> that's why they want them handed over, not so they can see what's in them.
>
> I'm surprised H&M didn't film the chase themselves as that could settle
> the matter unquestionably.  :/

YACaptainLouisRenaultAICM5Francs

john

On 20/05/2023 09:31, John Ashby wrote:
> On 20/05/2023 09:05, BrritSki wrote:
>> On 19/05/2023 22:00, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 19-May-23 16:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:24:36 AM UTC, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>
>>>> It seems that lawyers for the couple have written to the lawyers for
>>>> the photographic agency and have demanded that they be given the
>>>> pictures which were taken.
>>>>
>>>> The lawyers for the photographic agency have written back:
>>>>
>>>> "In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of
>>>> it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps
>>>> Kings can do.
>>>>
>>>> "Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that
>>>> his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry
>>>> hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country
>>>> long ago.
>>>>
>>>> "We stand by our founding fathers."
>>>>
>>>> See:
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65642614
>>>
>>> If they decided to sue the agency, then they would get access to all
>>> those photographs via 'discovery'.
>>>
>> They still wouldn't own them though or be able to prevent publication
>> - that's why they want them handed over, not so they can see what's in
>> them.
>>
>> I'm surprised H&M didn't film the chase themselves as that could
>> settle the matter unquestionably.  :/
>
> YACaptainLouisRenaultAICM5Francs
>
IKID but ?

On 20/05/2023 10:51, BrritSki wrote:
> On 20/05/2023 09:31, John Ashby wrote:
>> On 20/05/2023 09:05, BrritSki wrote:
>>> On 19/05/2023 22:00, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> On 19-May-23 16:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:24:36 AM UTC, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It seems that lawyers for the couple have written to the lawyers
>>>>> for the photographic agency and have demanded that they be given
>>>>> the pictures which were taken.
>>>>>
>>>>> The lawyers for the photographic agency have written back:
>>>>>
>>>>> "In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of
>>>>> it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as
>>>>> perhaps Kings can do.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that
>>>>> his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry
>>>>> hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country
>>>>> long ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We stand by our founding fathers."
>>>>>
>>>>> See:
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65642614
>>>>
>>>> If they decided to sue the agency, then they would get access to all
>>>> those photographs via 'discovery'.
>>>>
>>> They still wouldn't own them though or be able to prevent publication
>>> - that's why they want them handed over, not so they can see what's
>>> in them.
>>>
>>> I'm surprised H&M didn't film the chase themselves as that could
>>> settle the matter unquestionably.  :/
>>
>> YACaptainLouisRenaultAICM5Francs
>>
> IKID but ?
>
>

A man who was shocked, shocked I tell you, to find that gambling was
going on.

john

On 20/05/2023 12:33, John Ashby wrote:
> On 20/05/2023 10:51, BrritSki wrote:

>>>>
>>>> I'm surprised H&M didn't film the chase themselves as that could
>>>> settle the matter unquestionably.  :/
>>>
>>> YACaptainLouisRenaultAICM5Francs
>>>
>> IKID but ?
>>
>>
>
> A man who was shocked, shocked I tell you, to find that gambling was
> going on.
>
Ah, not the car company man then....

In message <kcrvmsF8k8gU1@mid.individual.net> at Sat, 20 May 2023
14:19:25, BrritSki <RtilburyTAKEAWAY@gmail.com> writes
>On 20/05/2023 12:33, John Ashby wrote:
>> On 20/05/2023 10:51, BrritSki wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm surprised H&M didn't film the chase themselves as that could
>>>>>settle the matter unquestionably.  :/
>>>>
>>>> YACaptainLouisRenaultAICM5Francs
>>>>
>>> IKID but ?
>>>
>>>
>> A man who was shocked, shocked I tell you, to find that gambling was
>>going on.

From my notes on the relevant clip:

from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOeFhSzoTuc; more info. in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-E2H1ChJM and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgXw58ZP4Ss

(The first clip is 3'4"; the second is only the Marseillaise, without
"ask your wife" and the above line. But has much more info. in the
notes.)
>>
>Ah, not the car company man then....

I must admit I was wondering too - I hadn't logged the character's
surname.

[My email software points out that the first of the two spaces after
"unquestionably." isn't US-ASCII; I know these days we don't care about
such matters, and I see nothing wrong with them for things like £ and ½,
but I think it's a pity that some OSs use them where no visible benefit
accrues. But I know I'm fighting against the dying of the light, or
whatever the phrase is.]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Feudalism : It's your count that votes.

Nick Odell <nickodell@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:24:36 AM UTC, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>> On 19/05/2023 11:21, BrritSki wrote:
>>> Nice letter in today's Times:
>>>
>>> TERRIFYING PURSUIT
>>> Sir, It must be terrifying to be involved in a lengthy “near
>>> catastrophic” high-speed chase by a large pack of aggressive, relentless
>>> and highly mobile pursuers, even if the incident did not prove fatal or
>>> result in any injuries. My thoughts are therefore very much with Janet
>>> Morris and Stephen Bidwell, whose 46ft yacht was chased by a pod of at
>>> least six killer whales for an hour off the coast of Tangier (report,
>>> May 18).
>>>
>>> Giles Whiting
>>> Taunton, Somerset
>>>
>>> SOmeone commented, and I replied:
>>>
>>> LGardiner
>>> Excellent and amusing letter from G Whiting.
>>>
>>> Roger BrriTilbury
>>> Indeed. And very appropriately named too for a fishy story (H and
>>> Megrim, not the Orcas).
>> For some reason I can't account for, I was pondering the H & M story in
>> the early sleepless hours of this morning. My thoughts were along these
>> lines:
>>
>> If I drive through town at a moderate speed and other cars follow me,
>> they are simply following me and it's probably not at all dangerous and
>> now worthy of an item in News broadcasts. On the other hand, if I drive
>> at considerable speed and other cars follow me it is almost certainly
>> dangerous and might well end up as a News item.
>>
>> So unless I want to end up headlining the News I will take care to drive
>> at a moderate speed and not give a toss for the people following me.
>> --
>> Jenny M Benson
>> Wrexham, UK
> It seems that lawyers for the couple have written to the lawyers for the
> photographic agency and have demanded that they be given the pictures which were taken.
>
> The lawyers for the photographic agency have written back:
>
> "In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it:
> Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps Kings can do.
>
> "Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his
> English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand over
> their property to the Crown were rejected by this country long ago.
>
> "We stand by our founding fathers."
>
> See:
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65642614
>
I thought this was a brilliant response.

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK