<geek alert>
A bit pointless, but I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar in
it so it can tell whereabouts in a room one or more people are. When you
know this you can do eg fancy things with lighting. ALso less prone to
spiders and cats etc. for intruder detection.
It did take a lot of fiddling about and the app that it comes with is
absolutely appalling, but it does work.
</ga>

On 07/06/2023 19:28, siwilson wrote:
> <geek alert>
> A bit pointless, but I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar in
> it so it can tell whereabouts in a room one or more people are. When you
> know this you can do eg fancy things with lighting. ALso less prone to
> spiders and cats etc. for intruder detection.
> It did take a lot of fiddling about and the app that it comes with is
> absolutely appalling, but it does work.
> </ga>

Wot, like a plastic-bread bakery?

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

siwilson wrote:

> I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar

Uh-huh ..

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_body_scanner#/media/File:Mmw_large.jpg>

On 07/06/2023 19:42, Andy Burns wrote:
> siwilson wrote:
>
>> I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar
>
> Uh-huh ..
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_body_scanner#/media/File:Mmw_large.jpg>

Next up, controlling the lights with body part movements.

--
/Simon

On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 20:25:45 +0100, siwilson wrote:

> On 07/06/2023 19:42, Andy Burns wrote:
>> siwilson wrote:
>>
>>> I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar
>>
>> Uh-huh ..
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_body_scanner#/media/
File:Mmw_large.jpg>
>
> Next up, controlling the lights with body part movements.

"For years radios had been operated by means of pressing buttons and
turning dials; then as the technology became more sophisticated the
controls were made touch-sensitive—you merely had to brush the panels with
your fingers; now all you had to do was wave your hand in the general
direction of the components and hope. It saved a lot of muscular
expenditure, of course, but meant that you had to sit infuriatingly still
if you wanted to keep listening to the same program."

On 6/7/2023 11:28 AM, siwilson wrote:
> <geek alert>
> A bit pointless, but I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar in
> it so it can tell whereabouts in a room one or more people are. When you
> know this you can do eg fancy things with lighting. ALso less prone to
> spiders and cats etc. for intruder detection.

What if I want it to detect not people, but rats and raccoons?
And brand name?

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 07/06/2023 20:25, siwilson wrote:
> On 07/06/2023 19:42, Andy Burns wrote:
>> siwilson wrote:
>>
>>> I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar
>>
>> Uh-huh ..
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_body_scanner#/media/File:Mmw_large.jpg>
>
> Next up, controlling the lights with body part movements.

Now that's just willy-waving.

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 23:02:43 UTC+2, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> On 07/06/2023 20:25, siwilson wrote:
> > On 07/06/2023 19:42, Andy Burns wrote:
> >> siwilson wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar
> >>
> >> Uh-huh ..
> >>
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_body_scanner#/media/File:Mmw_large.jpg>
> >
> > Next up, controlling the lights with body part movements.
> Now that's just willy-waving.

Quite. Detects an erection, lowers the lights and locks the doors.

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 19:46:47 -0000 (UTC), Scion <a.b@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 20:25:45 +0100, siwilson wrote:
>
>> Next up, controlling the lights with body part movements.
>
>"For years radios had been operated by means of pressing buttons and
>turning dials; then as the technology became more sophisticated the
>controls were made touch-sensitive—you merely had to brush the panels with
>your fingers; now all you had to do was wave your hand in the general
>direction of the components and hope. It saved a lot of muscular
>expenditure, of course, but meant that you had to sit infuriatingly still
>if you wanted to keep listening to the same program."

Hah. Just don't panic.

--

-Pip

siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
> <geek alert>
> A bit pointless, but I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar in
> it so it can tell whereabouts in a room one or more people are. When you
> know this you can do eg fancy things with lighting. ALso less prone to
> spiders and cats etc. for intruder detection.
> It did take a lot of fiddling about and the app that it comes with is
> absolutely appalling, but it does work.
> </ga>

Which one?

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

On 08/06/2023 03:21, Mark Olson wrote:
> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <geek alert>
>> A bit pointless, but I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar in
>> it so it can tell whereabouts in a room one or more people are. When you
>> know this you can do eg fancy things with lighting. ALso less prone to
>> spiders and cats etc. for intruder detection.
>> It did take a lot of fiddling about and the app that it comes with is
>> absolutely appalling, but it does work.
>> </ga>
>
> Which one?
>

Aqara FP2 - Chinese, but it can work locally without an internet connection.

Just a gimmick at the moment. But it seems to be able to reliably tell
if someone is at/near the desk, in a different part of the room, or
there's no-one in the room at all.

--
/Simon

siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/06/2023 03:21, Mark Olson wrote:
>> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:

[stuff about a mmwave presence sensor]

>> Which one?

> Aqara FP2 - Chinese, but it can work locally without an internet connection.
>
> Just a gimmick at the moment. But it seems to be able to reliably tell
> if someone is at/near the desk, in a different part of the room, or
> there's no-one in the room at all.

I've been trying (although I admit, not very hard) to get deeper
into HomeAssistant, and this is one of the sensors I keep seeing
mentioned. It would be a pricey gimmick for me too, as I don't see
a compelling need for _any_ automations yet.

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

On 08/06/2023 15:36, Mark Olson wrote:
> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 08/06/2023 03:21, Mark Olson wrote:
>>> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> [stuff about a mmwave presence sensor]
>
>>> Which one?
>
>> Aqara FP2 - Chinese, but it can work locally without an internet connection.
>>
>> Just a gimmick at the moment. But it seems to be able to reliably tell
>> if someone is at/near the desk, in a different part of the room, or
>> there's no-one in the room at all.
>
> I've been trying (although I admit, not very hard) to get deeper
> into HomeAssistant, and this is one of the sensors I keep seeing
> mentioned. It would be a pricey gimmick for me too, as I don't see
> a compelling need for _any_ automations yet.
>

Most of the automations I have are very simple. Turn one device on at
the same time as another (eg a non-Hue light at the same time as a Hue
one). Automagically setup the (very cheap) sound bar when the TV is
turned on. Make a voice announcement when the coffee machine's ready etc.

--
/Simon

On 07/06/2023 22:01, Turby wrote:
> On 6/7/2023 11:28 AM, siwilson wrote:
>> <geek alert>
>> A bit pointless, but I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar
>> in it so it can tell whereabouts in a room one or more people are.
>> When you know this you can do eg fancy things with lighting. ALso less
>> prone to spiders and cats etc. for intruder detection.
>
> What if I want it to detect not people, but rats and raccoons?
> And brand name?

Simpler option...
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbkLjjlMV8>

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

On 08/06/2023 22:36 Mark Olson penned these words:
> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 08/06/2023 03:21, Mark Olson wrote:
>>> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> [stuff about a mmwave presence sensor]
>
>>> Which one?
>
>> Aqara FP2 - Chinese, but it can work locally without an internet connection.
>>
>> Just a gimmick at the moment. But it seems to be able to reliably tell
>> if someone is at/near the desk, in a different part of the room, or
>> there's no-one in the room at all.
>
> I've been trying (although I admit, not very hard) to get deeper
> into HomeAssistant, and this is one of the sensors I keep seeing
> mentioned. It would be a pricey gimmick for me too, as I don't see
> a compelling need for _any_ automations yet.
>

I've just bought a couple of WiFi mains adaptors[1], well one and a strip of 3.
Linked them to HA, mostly this was to get around WOL stopping working. It was
fine, moved the PC out of the spare room when we had visitors last year and then
it kept turning back on everytime I turned off. So now it turns on with the
power so I can toggle the 240 adaptor and turn on the PC remotely. I am going to
put the router / DNS server and ISP modem on the strip. I realise the router and
modem cannot be toggled without locking myself out but since they all have a
time function too I've wondered about programming a reset weekly when I am away.

[1] And a switch for the water heater but not yet fitted that. Figured I could
both use the timer and turn the water otter on when I am on my way home.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 23:29:06 +0100, Pipl wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 19:46:47 -0000 (UTC), Scion <a.b@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 20:25:45 +0100, siwilson wrote:
>>
>>> Next up, controlling the lights with body part movements.
>>
>>"For years radios had been operated by means of pressing buttons and
>>turning dials; then as the technology became more sophisticated the
>>controls were made touch-sensitive—you merely had to brush the panels
>>with your fingers; now all you had to do was wave your hand in the
>>general direction of the components and hope. It saved a lot of muscular
>>expenditure, of course, but meant that you had to sit infuriatingly
>>still if you wanted to keep listening to the same program."
>
> Hah. Just don't panic.

Went down a Douglas Adams quotes rabbit hole after that
https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/4.Douglas_Adams

A couple of hours happily whiled away and now a hankering to read all his
stuff again.

On 09/06/2023 22:26, Scion wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 23:29:06 +0100, Pipl wrote:
>
>>
>> Hah. Just don't panic.
>
> Went down a Douglas Adams quotes rabbit hole after that
> https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/4.Douglas_Adams
>
> A couple of hours happily whiled away and now a hankering to read all his
> stuff again.

Excellent link. Thanks for that.

Chris
--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 07/06/2023 22:01, Turby wrote:
> On 6/7/2023 11:28 AM, siwilson wrote:
>> <geek alert>
>> A bit pointless, but I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar
>> in it so it can tell whereabouts in a room one or more people are.
>> When you know this you can do eg fancy things with lighting. ALso less
>> prone to spiders and cats etc. for intruder detection.
>
> What if I want it to detect not people, but rats and raccoons?
> And brand name?

Do rats and raccoons have brand names?

Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
> On 07/06/2023 22:01, Turby wrote:
>> On 6/7/2023 11:28 AM, siwilson wrote:
>>> <geek alert>
>>> A bit pointless, but I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar
>>> in it so it can tell whereabouts in a room one or more people are.
>>> When you know this you can do eg fancy things with lighting. ALso less
>>> prone to spiders and cats etc. for intruder detection.
>>
>> What if I want it to detect not people, but rats and raccoons?
>> And brand name?
>
> Do rats and raccoons have brand names?

Not brand names as such...

https://squeaksandnibbles.com/raccoon-names/

Best Raccoon Names
Here are 25 raccoon names we love.

Bandit
Beau
Bolt
Brandy
Dash
Diego
Drummond
Flint
Fuzzy
Gizmo
Jester
Merry
Mickey
Pablo
Pippin
Rascal
Robber
Rocket
Scamp
Shadow
Spud
Trouble
Whiskers
Willow
Ziggy

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

On 6/11/2023 6:26 PM, Mark Olson wrote:
> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 07/06/2023 22:01, Turby wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2023 11:28 AM, siwilson wrote:
>>>> <geek alert>
>>>> A bit pointless, but I was curious. It's got a millimiter wave radar
>>>> in it so it can tell whereabouts in a room one or more people are.
>>>> When you know this you can do eg fancy things with lighting. ALso less
>>>> prone to spiders and cats etc. for intruder detection.
>>>
>>> What if I want it to detect not people, but rats and raccoons?
>>> And brand name?
>>
>> Do rats and raccoons have brand names?
>
> Not brand names as such...
>
> Best Raccoon Names
> Here are 22 raccoon names we love^x^x^x use.
>

Thief
Pest
Bastard
Punk
Robber
Heyu
Fukker
Shithead
Vermin
Coksukker
Vandal
Stinker
Criminal
Bandit
Greedy
Bozo
Marauder
Sneak
Terrorist
Evil thing
Trumper
Maga Rat

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 6/10/2023 2:45 AM, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
> On 09/06/2023 22:26, Scion wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 23:29:06 +0100, Pipl wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hah. Just don't panic.
>>
>> Went down a Douglas Adams quotes rabbit hole after that
>> https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/4.Douglas_Adams
>>
>> A couple of hours happily whiled away and now a hankering to read all his
>> stuff again.
>
> Excellent link.  Thanks for that.
>

+1

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)