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* Propaganda bullshitThe Happy Hippy
+* Re: Propaganda bullshitJesse
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 +- It's not the officer, really, it's something else (Re: Propaganda bullshit)Loose Cannon
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 by: The Happy Hippy - Tue, 23 Apr 2024 13:29 UTC

https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-gideon-falter-the-man-fighting-on-the-frontline-against-antisemitism-in-the-uk/

<quote>

Falter wrote in a Sunday Times first-person account, "By the actions of the Metropolitan Police, it's not just that central London is a 'no-go zone' for Jews, as has been said previously, but a police-enforced Jew-free zone."

</quote>

Complete and utter bullshit.

Not least because there were plenty of Jews participating in the demonstration.

He has taken the stance, as he has expressed previously, that pro-Palestinian demonstrations are anti-Semitic and therefore illegal and that the police allowing such marches is, as he puts it, "a betrayal of the police's duty, not just to the Jewish public, but to the British public at large".

Except it isn't and he's wrong on all counts.

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 by: Jesse - Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:52 UTC

The Happy Hippy wrote:

The Happy Hippy

Oct 7, 2005

> > My opinion is that people who want to kill others have major
psychological disorders

The Happy Hippy

Aug 3, 2006

> I can slaughter Jews if you want, and I can do it far nearer to home. I can
> deliver you a veritable bloodbath of dead Jews if you want; men, women and
> children,. Even their pets too, if that's what you want. How about we start
> with your wife ?
>
> Or maybe you are hoping that Israel will be your proxy killing machine ?
>
> Well fuck you George. I know you are sick in mind and body and maybe that's
> because the God you don't believe in has chosen to lay you low like the
> worthless piece of shit you are. You want to see blood flowing ? That can be
> arranged. Maybe I should come round and wipe the whole sickening stain of
> the Yates family away, and show you and your Zionist war-mongering buddies
> exactly what this death and destruction you are cheer-leading for really
> means ? What do you think Ron ?

--
"The narrower the view, the sharper the focus" [my quote]

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 by: The Happy Hippy - Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:40 UTC

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 11:52:53 -0400
Jesse <zo@so.org> wrote:

<quote>

If broads are allowed to expose themselves in public, I think I should have the same right. If they breast feed on a park bench, I should legally be allowed to masturbate right next to them.

</quote>

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 by: The Happy Hippy - Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:02 UTC

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:29:23 +0100
The Happy Hippy <the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.invalid> wrote:

> https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-gideon-falter-the-man-fighting-on-the-frontline-against-antisemitism-in-the-uk/
>
> <quote>
>
> Falter wrote in a Sunday Times first-person account, "By the actions
> of the Metropolitan Police, it's not just that central London is a
> 'no-go zone' for Jews, as has been said previously, but a
> police-enforced Jew-free zone."
>
> </quote>
>
> Complete and utter bullshit.
>
> Not least because there were plenty of Jews participating in the
> demonstration.
>
> He has taken the stance, as he has expressed previously, that
> pro-Palestinian demonstrations are anti-Semitic and therefore illegal
> and that the police allowing such marches is, as he puts it, "a
> betrayal of the police's duty, not just to the Jewish public, but to
> the British public at large".
>
> Except it isn't and he's wrong on all counts.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd130lp70x5o

<quotes>

Mr Falter told ITV's Good Morning Britain on Monday that his members often attend pro-Palestinian marches to "force the police to make sure these things are safe for Jewish people" - and he would turn up at the next one.

He said the protests were "so badly policed, that if you are a Jew on the sideline of this thing, they have to threaten you with arrest to get rid of you".

</quotes>

So we are getting closer to the truth, that he's a professional agitator who turns up to "force the police" to do what he wants them to do, not what they should be doing, were doing.

The bottom line is he wasn't threatened with arrest for being Jewish, he was threatened with arrest for being deliberately antagonistic in attempting to provoke a breach of the peace.

Like any other fascist he is simply trying to get legitimate protest cancelled, have protestors silenced, and is playing the weaponised anti-Semitism card to that end.

He is the one trying to make the country a no-go area, for anyone who isn't unconditionally pro-Israel.

It's things like that which is causing a rise in genuine anti-Semitism.

It's not the officer, really, it's something else (Re: Propaganda bullshit)

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 by: Loose Cannon - Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:23 UTC

In article <20240423180206.00005be1@ntlworld.invalid>,
The Happy Hippy <the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.invalid> wrote:

> The bottom line is he wasn't threatened with arrest for being Jewish,

Lying POS.

"The officer said Mr Falter, who was wearing a kippah skull cap,
was 'openly Jewish'"

BTW, the officer is not the main problem here. The main problem
is the leadership, which allowed an untold number of barbarians
to enter the UK, and which failed to make it clear to them that
they are living in an (alleged?) Western democracy.

The Jews today, every non-Muslim tomorrow.

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 by: The Happy Hippy - Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:25 UTC

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:02:06 +0100
The Happy Hippy <the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.invalid> wrote:

> Like any other fascist he is simply trying to get legitimate protest
> cancelled, have protestors silenced, and is playing the weaponised
> anti-Semitism card to that end.

And has been for a long time -

https://powerbase.info/index.php/Gideon_Falter

<quotes>

His discomfort grew, he says, when pro-Palestinian protestors did not object to some in their midst who chanted antisemitic slogans. He was dismayed to find that the antisemites, at rallies and online, 'were not arrested'.

</quotes>

Others disagree that such chants were anti-Semitic, and that it's the same with recent protests. From his current complaint it seems "scum" and "Nazi" are what he considers anti-Semitic and he's completely pissed that the police disagree.

It's not unlike neo-Nazis complaining when the police don't let them confront anti-Nazi protestors, criticising the police for taking away their freedom to disturb the peace, to disrupt other people's right of protest.


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