Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 11:46:42 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>>>There's a company here on the IoM that sells and services camper vans
>>>
>>>The business is called "Camper Vannin"
>
>>I wonder how many people got that?
>
> Hmm. I'll go more mainstream, then...
>
> There's a business that installs and services oil-fired central
> heating boilers
>
> It's called "Oil of Man"
>
> Better?

<applause>

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On 15/08/2023 21:59, Champ wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 11:46:42 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>>> There's a company here on the IoM that sells and services camper vans
>>>
>>> The business is called "Camper Vannin"
>
>> I wonder how many people got that?
>
> Hmm. I'll go more mainstream, then...
>
> There's a business that installs and services oil-fired central
> heating boilers
>
> It's called "Oil of Man"
>
> Better?

Much, ignoring the fact that it doesn't include 'van' in any form. Then
this is UKRM after all.
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On 14/08/2023 19:44, Pete Fisher wrote:
> On 13/08/2023 11:29, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>> On 12/08/2023 17:52, Ace wrote:

>>> In Manx, the IoM is Ellan Vannin, so Vannin means Man.
>>>
>> There was at least one ship/ferry that also carried the name.
>> I learned this song in the 1970s about a tragedy in 1909:
>> https://genius.com/Richard-hawley-the-ellan-vannin-tragedy-lyrics
>>
>
> Would you believe I used to sing it in folk sessions, accompanying
> myself very badly on the guitar? One third of my entire repertoire along
> with 'Farewell to Tarwathie' and 'The Circle Game'.

Ah! Another old folkie on UKRM!
TBF, I later turned into a rocker, then a bluesman, now a
country/rock/bluesman...

Chris
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On 15/08/2023 21:59, Champ wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 11:46:42 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>>> There's a company here on the IoM that sells and services camper vans
>>>
>>> The business is called "Camper Vannin"
>
>> I wonder how many people got that?
>
> Hmm. I'll go more mainstream, then...
>
> There's a business that installs and services oil-fired central
> heating boilers
>
> It's called "Oil of Man"
>
> Better?

Brilliant!

Chris
--
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Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 19:44:48 +0100, Pete Fisher
<peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On 13/08/2023 11:29, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>> On 12/08/2023 17:52, Ace wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 17:24:28 +0100, RustyHinge
>>> <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/08/2023 10:46, Ace wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 22:43:37 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 19:32:49 +0100, siwilson
>>>>>> <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not one for giving a vehicle any silly names, but.
>>>>>>> I saw one today that made me smile: Jean Claude Dam Van. 5/10 for
>>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <applause>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a company here on the IoM that sells and services camper vans
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The business is called "Camper Vannin"
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder how many people got that?
>>>>>
>>>> Not I
>>>
>>> In Manx, the IoM is Ellan Vannin, so Vannin means Man.
>>>
>> There was at least one ship/ferry that also carried the name.
>> I learned this song in the 1970s about a tragedy in 1909:
>> https://genius.com/Richard-hawley-the-ellan-vannin-tragedy-lyrics
>>
>
>Would you believe I used to sing it in folk sessions, accompanying
>myself very badly on the guitar? One third of my entire repertoire along
>with 'Farewell to Tarwathie' and 'The Circle Game'.

--
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 19:44:48 +0100, Pete Fisher
<peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On 13/08/2023 11:29, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>> On 12/08/2023 17:52, Ace wrote:
>>> In Manx, the IoM is Ellan Vannin, so Vannin means Man.
>>>
>> There was at least one ship/ferry that also carried the name.
>> I learned this song in the 1970s about a tragedy in 1909:
>> https://genius.com/Richard-hawley-the-ellan-vannin-tragedy-lyrics

Not heard that... bit of a dirge, buit not surprising, given the
subject matter, I suppose.

When we did a memorial bash for my wife's dad and MiL last year we
played Barry Gibb's version of Ellan Vannin, given they both had
strong connections with the IoM. (Not related to the ship, but as he's
phrased it the unofficial IoM National Anthem.

>Would you believe I used to sing it in folk sessions, accompanying
>myself very badly on the guitar?

Well it's not exactly a tricky tune. I recall many traditional folk
songs from back in my Peasmouldia (Derby folk club) days with very
similar construction. Actually reminds me a bit of Over the Hills and
Far Away, famously used for the TV series Sharpe.
--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

chrisnd @ukrm wrote:

> Ace wrote:
>
>> In Manx, the IoM is Ellan Vannin, so Vannin means Man.
>
> There was at least one ship/ferry that also carried the name.
> I learned this song in the 1970s about a tragedy in 1909:
> https://genius.com/Richard-hawley-the-ellan-vannin-tragedy-lyrics

I believe I had a Spinners album with it on </cringe>

On 16/08/2023 19:15, Andy Burns wrote:
> chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>
>> Ace wrote:
>>
>>> In Manx, the IoM is Ellan Vannin, so Vannin means Man.
>>
>> There was at least one ship/ferry that also carried the name.
>> I learned this song in the 1970s about a tragedy in 1909:
>> https://genius.com/Richard-hawley-the-ellan-vannin-tragedy-lyrics
>
> I believe I had a Spinners album with it on </cringe>
>
>

That's the version I learned the lyrics from.

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On 16/08/2023 19:09, Ace wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 19:44:48 +0100, Pete Fisher
> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
>> Would you believe I used to sing it in folk sessions, accompanying
>> myself very badly on the guitar?
>
> Well it's not exactly a tricky tune. I recall many traditional folk
> songs from back in my Peasmouldia (Derby folk club) days with very
> similar construction. Actually reminds me a bit of Over the Hills and
> Far Away, famously used for the TV series Sharpe.

Very much three chord trick territory. If in doubt, a session favourite
will be in G.

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On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 15:53:06 UTC+1, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
> On 14/08/2023 19:44, Pete Fisher wrote:

> > Would you believe I used to sing it in folk sessions, accompanying
> > myself very badly on the guitar? One third of my entire repertoire along
> > with 'Farewell to Tarwathie' and 'The Circle Game'.
> Ah! Another old folkie on UKRM!
> TBF, I later turned into a rocker, then a bluesman, now a
> country/rock/bluesman...
> Chris

'Whispering Chris'

On 8/16/2023 7:53 AM, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
> On 14/08/2023 19:44, Pete Fisher wrote:
>>
>> Would you believe I used to sing it in folk sessions, accompanying
>> myself very badly on the guitar? One third of my entire repertoire
>> along with 'Farewell to Tarwathie' and 'The Circle Game'.
>
> Ah! Another old folkie on UKRM!
> TBF, I later turned into a rocker, then a bluesman, now a
> country/rock/bluesman...
>
<slight diversion>
D'ya think that in 50 years anyone will turn into a rapper?
<snort>

--
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 21:59:39 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 11:46:42 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>>>There's a company here on the IoM that sells and services camper vans
>>>
>>>The business is called "Camper Vannin"
>
>>I wonder how many people got that?
>
>Hmm. I'll go more mainstream, then...
>
>There's a business that installs and services oil-fired central
>heating boilers
>
>It's called "Oil of Man"
>
>Better?

Much!

--

-Pip

On 17/08/2023 11:11, Turby wrote:
> On 8/16/2023 7:53 AM, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>> On 14/08/2023 19:44, Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>
>>> Would you believe I used to sing it in folk sessions, accompanying
>>> myself very badly on the guitar? One third of my entire repertoire
>>> along with 'Farewell to Tarwathie' and 'The Circle Game'.
>>
>> Ah! Another old folkie on UKRM!
>> TBF, I later turned into a rocker, then a bluesman, now a
>> country/rock/bluesman...
>>
> <slight diversion>
> D'ya think that in 50 years anyone will turn into a rapper?
> <snort>
>
Probably not the sort of rapper you meant but this sort seems to have a
new lease of life...
https://youtu.be/YvTwCPXd8wo

Chris
--
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Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 16/08/2023 19:09, Ace wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 19:44:48 +0100, Pete Fisher
> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 13/08/2023 11:29, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>>> On 12/08/2023 17:52, Ace wrote:
>>>> In Manx, the IoM is Ellan Vannin, so Vannin means Man.
>>>>
>>> There was at least one ship/ferry that also carried the name.
>>> I learned this song in the 1970s about a tragedy in 1909:
>>> https://genius.com/Richard-hawley-the-ellan-vannin-tragedy-lyrics

> Well it's not exactly a tricky tune. I recall many traditional folk
> songs from back in my Peasmouldia (Derby folk club) days with very
> similar construction.

Hmmph... I went to Peasmouldia a few times in my yewf. Barbara Green is
a name that comes to mind? I think she was producer on the Folk
Nottingham Style that I was on... <wistful> and was one of Peasmouldia
organisers? Mebbe?
A bit far from my usual stomping ground around Nottingham.

Chris
--
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Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 8/19/2023 4:29 AM, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
> On 17/08/2023 11:11, Turby wrote:
>> On 8/16/2023 7:53 AM, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>>> On 14/08/2023 19:44, Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Would you believe I used to sing it in folk sessions, accompanying
>>>> myself very badly on the guitar? One third of my entire repertoire
>>>> along with 'Farewell to Tarwathie' and 'The Circle Game'.
>>>
>>> Ah! Another old folkie on UKRM!
>>> TBF, I later turned into a rocker, then a bluesman, now a
>>> country/rock/bluesman...
>>>
>> <slight diversion>
>> D'ya think that in 50 years anyone will turn into a rapper?
>> <snort>
>>
> Probably not the sort of rapper you meant but this sort seems to have a
> new lease of life...
> https://youtu.be/YvTwCPXd8wo
>
Heh. Nice.

--
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 12:34:29 +0100, "chrisnd @ukrm"
<chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:

>On 16/08/2023 19:09, Ace wrote:

>> Well it's not exactly a tricky tune. I recall many traditional folk
>> songs from back in my Peasmouldia (Derby folk club) days with very
>> similar construction.
>
>Hmmph... I went to Peasmouldia a few times in my yewf. Barbara Green is
>a name that comes to mind? I think she was producer on the Folk
>Nottingham Style that I was on... <wistful> and was one of Peasmouldia
>organisers? Mebbe?

I don't recognise the name. The only ones I recall were Dave and Beed
who also formed part of R Cajun, the de facto house band. This was
when they met in the back room at the Station Inn. Around 1980-82, I'd
guess.

I misremember why, but that venue came to an end and the club went
downhill, meeting in a much larger - far too large - room with a stage
above a different pub, which would have been good for larger concerts
but felt wrong when there were just twenty or thirty people.

I think the organisers also changed at the same time, so I don't think
it was just the change in veue that spoilt it, nor have I any idea if
the club resurfaced or survived much beyond that time.
--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On 20/08/2023 10:39, Ace wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 12:34:29 +0100, "chrisnd @ukrm"
> <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> On 16/08/2023 19:09, Ace wrote:
>
>>> Well it's not exactly a tricky tune. I recall many traditional folk
>>> songs from back in my Peasmouldia (Derby folk club) days with very
>>> similar construction.
>>
>> Hmmph... I went to Peasmouldia a few times in my yewf. Barbara Green is
>> a name that comes to mind? I think she was producer on the Folk
>> Nottingham Style that I was on... <wistful> and was one of Peasmouldia
>> organisers? Mebbe?
>
> I don't recognise the name. The only ones I recall were Dave and Beed
> who also formed part of R Cajun, the de facto house band. This was
> when they met in the back room at the Station Inn. Around 1980-82, I'd
> guess.
>
> I misremember why, but that venue came to an end and the club went
> downhill, meeting in a much larger - far too large - room with a stage
> above a different pub, which would have been good for larger concerts
> but felt wrong when there were just twenty or thirty people.
>
> I think the organisers also changed at the same time, so I don't think
> it was just the change in veue that spoilt it, nor have I any idea if
> the club resurfaced or survived much beyond that time.

The Swamp Club?

I remember going all the way over there to see them in the mid 80's.

https://www.cliveharvey.net/r-cajun-and-the-zydeco-brothers
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Pete Fisher <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:kke6bsFiq1tU2
@mid.individual.net:

> I remember going all the way over there to see them in the mid 80's.
>
> https://www.cliveharvey.net/r-cajun-and-the-zydeco-brothers

I saw them quite a few times in their earleir days, as they were either on
the bill with my brother's Zydeco band, Joe le Taxi, or my brother was the
promoter and had booked them.

http://www.melodeons.com/music - brother's website

The drummer from JLT is now playing with Chris Hall and other fromer R
Cajun members in https://www.accessallareas.info/artist/cajun-roosters/

Sadly my brother is not well enough to tour but he is still happily making
and repairing melodeons in his workshop in Welshpool. My new house will be
about half a mile up the hill from him. He made a better income as the UK
importer of Castagnari melodeons and now making his own than he ever did
as a musician.

On 20/08/2023 10:57, Pete Fisher wrote:
> On 20/08/2023 10:39, Ace wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 12:34:29 +0100, "chrisnd @ukrm"
>> <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/08/2023 19:09, Ace wrote:
>>
>>>> Well it's not exactly a tricky tune. I recall many traditional folk
>>>> songs from back in my Peasmouldia (Derby folk club) days with very
>>>> similar construction.
>>>
>>> Hmmph... I went to Peasmouldia a few times in my yewf. Barbara Green is
>>> a name that comes to mind?  I think she was producer on the Folk
>>> Nottingham Style that I was on... <wistful>  and was one of Peasmouldia
>>> organisers? Mebbe?
>>
>> I don't recognise the name. The only ones I recall were Dave and Beed
>> who also formed part of R Cajun, the de facto house band. This was
>> when they met in the back room at the Station Inn. Around 1980-82, I'd
>> guess.
>>
>> I misremember why, but that venue came to an end and the club went
>> downhill, meeting in a much larger - far too large - room with a stage
>> above a different pub, which would have been good for larger concerts
>> but felt wrong when there were just twenty or thirty people.
>>
>> I think the organisers also changed at the same time, so I don't think
>> it was just the change in veue that spoilt it, nor have I any idea if
>> the club resurfaced or survived much beyond that time.
>
> The Swamp Club?
>
> I remember going all the way over there to see them in the mid 80's.
>
> https://www.cliveharvey.net/r-cajun-and-the-zydeco-brothers

Oh gosh, so many memories! I remember RCATZB - mostly with ZZ
Birmingham (who still is out there playing) - but also I knew Clive &co
from Roaring Jelly...

I'll stop now!

Chris
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On 20/08/2023 11:36, wessie wrote:
> Pete Fisher <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:kke6bsFiq1tU2
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>
>> I remember going all the way over there to see them in the mid 80's.
>>
>> https://www.cliveharvey.net/r-cajun-and-the-zydeco-brothers
>
> I saw them quite a few times in their earleir days, as they were either on
> the bill with my brother's Zydeco band, Joe le Taxi, or my brother was the
> promoter and had booked them.
>
> http://www.melodeons.com/music - brother's website
>
> The drummer from JLT is now playing with Chris Hall and other fromer R
> Cajun members in https://www.accessallareas.info/artist/cajun-roosters/
>
> Sadly my brother is not well enough to tour but he is still happily making
> and repairing melodeons in his workshop in Welshpool. My new house will be
> about half a mile up the hill from him. He made a better income as the UK
> importer of Castagnari melodeons and now making his own than he ever did
> as a musician.

Bum, I was going to see them the other week at the Nottingham Riverside
Festival but things did not work out. (It rained a lot) So I was
outvoted and we went to the pub instead.

Chris
--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk