sorry, nothing to see, move along please, just testing if I finally have
the smtp settings working

On 18.11.23 12:34, DavidK wrote:
> sorry, nothing to see, move along please, just testing if I finally have
> the smtp settings working

Well just in case I think you ought to be told that you can be seen
doing your testing.

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On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 12:34:52 +0000, DavidK wrote:

> sorry, nothing to see, move along please, just testing if I finally have
> the smtp settings working

Your NNTP (network news transfer protocol) settings appear to be working.
Can't comment on your SMTP (simple mail transfer protocol) settings
though.

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On 18/11/2023 12:55, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 12:34:52 +0000, DavidK wrote:
>
>> sorry, nothing to see, move along please, just testing if I finally have
>> the smtp settings working
>
> Your NNTP (network news transfer protocol) settings appear to be working.
> Can't comment on your SMTP (simple mail transfer protocol) settings
> though.
>

Oh, I didn't realise that newsgroups used something different.

I've been arguing with Thunderbird (and losing, of course) for some time
now. I wanted a separate profile for umra, although I can't remember
why, and found that I could usually read umra I couldn't write to it.If
I composed a message it just hung on 'assembling the message' of summat
like that.

So I created yet another gmail account and added it to the profile.
Maybe this will last for more than a couple of weeks.

On 18/11/2023 13:17, DavidK wrote:
> On 18/11/2023 12:55, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 12:34:52 +0000, DavidK wrote:
>>
>>> sorry, nothing to see, move along please, just testing if I finally have
>>> the smtp settings working
>>
>> Your NNTP (network news transfer protocol) settings appear to be working.
>> Can't comment on your SMTP (simple mail transfer protocol) settings
>> though.
>>
>
> Oh, I didn't realise that newsgroups used something different.
>
> I've been arguing with Thunderbird (and losing, of course) for some time
> now. I wanted a separate profile for umra, although I can't remember
> why, and found that I could usually read umra I couldn't write to it.If
> I composed a message it just hung on 'assembling the message' of summat
> like that.
>
> So I created yet another gmail account and added it to the profile.
> Maybe this will last for more than a couple of weeks.

and now I'm wondering, does news.individual.net use NNTP to _upload_
messages from my laptop and should it have provided the NNTP service in
both ways? I could download messages and read them before I added a
connection to gmail but not upload them.

On 18/11/2023 16:14, DavidK wrote:
> On 18/11/2023 13:17, DavidK wrote:
>> On 18/11/2023 12:55, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 12:34:52 +0000, DavidK wrote:
>>>
>>>> sorry, nothing to see, move along please, just testing if I finally
>>>> have
>>>> the smtp settings working
>>>
>>> Your NNTP (network news transfer protocol) settings appear to be
>>> working.
>>> Can't comment on your SMTP (simple mail transfer protocol) settings
>>> though.
>>>
>>
>> Oh, I didn't realise that newsgroups used something different.
>>
>> I've been arguing with Thunderbird (and losing, of course) for some
>> time now. I wanted a separate profile for umra, although I can't
>> remember why, and found that I could usually read umra I couldn't
>> write to it.If I composed a message it just hung on 'assembling the
>> message' of summat like that.
>>
>> So I created yet another gmail account and added it to the profile.
>> Maybe this will last for more than a couple of weeks.
>
> and now I'm wondering, does news.individual.net use NNTP to _upload_
> messages from my laptop and should it have provided the NNTP service in
> both ways? I could download messages and read them before I added a
> connection to gmail but not upload them.

I think I'm right in saying that your outgoing messages go via smtp. If
you look at the bottom of the settings page for you news.individual.net
account, you'll see where it asks for the outgoing smtp server. This
should probably be the same as the one you use for your email account.

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A. A deer hound!

On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 16:36:40 +0000, Serena Blanchflower wrote:

> On 18/11/2023 16:14, DavidK wrote:
>>
>> and now I'm wondering, does news.individual.net use NNTP to _upload_
>> messages from my laptop and should it have provided the NNTP service in
>> both ways? I could download messages and read them before I added a
>> connection to gmail but not upload them.
>
> I think I'm right in saying that your outgoing messages go via smtp. If
> you look at the bottom of the settings page for you news.individual.net
> account, you'll see where it asks for the outgoing smtp server. This
> should probably be the same as the one you use for your email account.

That's for replies via email. Replies to the newsgroup go via NNTP. There
isn't really a client-server relationship, it's a peer-to-peer exchange of
new messages.

--
Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0

On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 18:52:36 +0000, Jim Easterbrook wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 16:36:40 +0000, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>
>> On 18/11/2023 16:14, DavidK wrote:
>>>
>>> and now I'm wondering, does news.individual.net use NNTP to _upload_
>>> messages from my laptop and should it have provided the NNTP service
>>> in both ways? I could download messages and read them before I added a
>>> connection to gmail but not upload them.
>>
>> I think I'm right in saying that your outgoing messages go via smtp.
>> If you look at the bottom of the settings page for you
>> news.individual.net account, you'll see where it asks for the outgoing
>> smtp server. This should probably be the same as the one you use for
>> your email account.
>
> That's for replies via email. Replies to the newsgroup go via NNTP.
> There isn't really a client-server relationship, it's a peer-to-peer
> exchange of new messages.

IIRC, Turnpike provides for submission by email too, at least in some cases,
via usenet.org.

--
Iain

On 18/11/2023 18:52, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 16:36:40 +0000, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>
>> On 18/11/2023 16:14, DavidK wrote:
>>>
>>> and now I'm wondering, does news.individual.net use NNTP to _upload_
>>> messages from my laptop and should it have provided the NNTP service in
>>> both ways? I could download messages and read them before I added a
>>> connection to gmail but not upload them.
>>
>> I think I'm right in saying that your outgoing messages go via smtp. If
>> you look at the bottom of the settings page for you news.individual.net
>> account, you'll see where it asks for the outgoing smtp server. This
>> should probably be the same as the one you use for your email account.
>
> That's for replies via email. Replies to the newsgroup go via NNTP. There
> isn't really a client-server relationship, it's a peer-to-peer exchange of
> new messages.
>

Ah, thanks, that makes sense.

--
Best wishes, Serena
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who
could not hear the music. (Friedrich Nietzsche)

On 18-Nov-23 12:54, krw wrote:
> On 18.11.23 12:34, DavidK wrote:
>> sorry, nothing to see, move along please, just testing if I finally
>> have the smtp settings working
>
> Well just in case I think you ought to be told that you can be seen
> doing your testing.

Oh no he can't!

--
Sam Plusnet

In message <ujb7s6$3f325$2@dont-email.me> at Sat, 18 Nov 2023 20:47:02,
Iain Archer <ianews@montaigne.me.uk> writes
>On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 18:52:36 +0000, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
[]
>> That's for replies via email. Replies to the newsgroup go via NNTP.
>> There isn't really a client-server relationship, it's a peer-to-peer
>> exchange of new messages.
>
>IIRC, Turnpike provides for submission by email too, at least in some cases,
>via usenet.org.
>
That's for two special cases (as well as private replies to public posts
as Jim said, which obviously go as mails):
1. moderated 'groups, where your posts have to go via a moderator;
2. mailing lists, which TP can make look like newsgroups (in particular,
you can set expiry).
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