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Re: the McToodles can?t see umra!

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 by: krw - Thu, 23 Nov 2023 17:03 UTC

On 23.11.23 16:53, carolet wrote:
> I am now trying to remember whether Rob adopted Henry.

No - he told Henry at the time of the kidnap that Henry was nothing to him.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
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 by: Sam Plusnet - Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:16 UTC

On 23-Nov-23 9:59, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
> On 23/11/2023 09:52, Mike McMillan wrote:
>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I’m here again.
>>>
>>> Mrs McT
>>>
>>>
>>
>> But I can’t see anyone else! AnyRats about?
>>
>
> Waving!

Drowning!

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:20 UTC

On 23-Nov-23 13:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
> On 23/11/2023 12:05, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>
>> Although I have a feeling that it may be superseded by the Miles (or
>> possibly, Bruce) storyline, as Rob's family want control of the only
>> Titchener grandchild.
>
> In the admittedly unlikely event that Rob died intestate, Jack would get
> the lot, whatever that is, I think.
>
> There's certainly room for mischief-making from beyond the grave.

Bequest conditional on a name change to Gideon?

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Sam Plusnet

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:24 UTC

On 23-Nov-23 9:36, Chris wrote:
> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!

I have this weird feeling that someone is trying to communicate with us
- but there's no-one there!

It's all very spooky.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:24 UTC

On 23-Nov-23 9:37, Chris wrote:
> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!
>>
>> Mrs McT
>>
>>
>>
>
> I’m here again.

There it goes again!

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Sam Plusnet

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 by: Serena Blanchflower - Thu, 23 Nov 2023 20:45 UTC

On 23/11/2023 16:53, carolet wrote:
> On 23/11/2023 15:01, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>> On 23/11/2023 13:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2023 12:05, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Although I have a feeling that it may be superseded by the Miles (or
>>>> possibly, Bruce) storyline, as Rob's family want control of the only
>>>> Titchener grandchild.
>>>
>>> In the admittedly unlikely event that Rob died intestate, Jack would
>>> get the lot, whatever that is, I think.
>>
>> Yes, he would.
>
>
> I am now trying to remember whether Rob adopted Henry. If he did (and
> the adoption still stands), then intestacy rules would surely divide the
> lot between the two of them.

No, I'm pretty sure he didn't. IIRC, there was talk of him doing so but
then he learned, probably from Alistair, how rigorous the assessment
from social services was, and he decided he didn't want to go through
with it.

--
Best wishes, Serena
I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells (Dr. Seuss)

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 by: Chris J Dixon - Thu, 23 Nov 2023 20:45 UTC

Pete W wrote:

>If it's the "Rob and Helen" storyline that's keeping you away then it
>might be safe to return soon.

Unless they borrow from a well known regal drama (AIUI) and have
ghostly reappearances.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
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 by: Serena Blanchflower - Thu, 23 Nov 2023 20:46 UTC

On 23/11/2023 18:20, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 23-Nov-23 13:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
>> On 23/11/2023 12:05, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>
>>> Although I have a feeling that it may be superseded by the Miles (or
>>> possibly, Bruce) storyline, as Rob's family want control of the only
>>> Titchener grandchild.
>>
>> In the admittedly unlikely event that Rob died intestate, Jack would
>> get the lot, whatever that is, I think.
>>
>> There's certainly room for mischief-making from beyond the grave.
>
> Bequest conditional on a name change to Gideon?
>

That does sound all too believable. He'd probably want him to be a
Titchener, as well as being Gideon.

--
Best wishes, Serena
Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke
of luck (Dalai Lama)

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 by: Penny - Wed, 22 Nov 2023 13:14 UTC

On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:40:13 +0000, Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca>
scrawled in the dust...

>I thought last night's two-hander between Jim and Helen was very
>touching and very sweet. So much so that I made a point of listening
>to it again this afternoon.

It was well done.
Good old Jim, just what Helen needed.

What no one needed was Adil being pathetic again.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: Clive Arthur - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:20 UTC

On 23/11/2023 18:16, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 23-Nov-23 9:59, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>> On 23/11/2023 09:52, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’m here again.
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> But I can’t see anyone else! AnyRats about?
>>>
>>
>> Waving!
>
> Drowning!

Far out!

--
Cheers
Clive

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 by: Vicky - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 12:11 UTC

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:20:46 +0000, Clive Arthur
<clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:

>On 23/11/2023 18:16, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 23-Nov-23 9:59, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2023 09:52, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m here again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But I can’t see anyone else! AnyRats about?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Waving!
>>
>> Drowning!
>
>Far out!

BTN

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 by: John Ashby - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 15:37 UTC

On 24/11/2023 12:11, Vicky wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:20:46 +0000, Clive Arthur
> <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 23/11/2023 18:16, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 23-Nov-23 9:59, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2023 09:52, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m here again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But I can’t see anyone else! AnyRats about?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Waving!
>>>
>>> Drowning!
>>
>> Far out!
>
> BTN

Accepted though close to being witty without the cringe.

john

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 by: Mike McMillan - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 16:27 UTC

John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 24/11/2023 12:11, Vicky wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:20:46 +0000, Clive Arthur
>> <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/11/2023 18:16, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> On 23-Nov-23 9:59, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>> On 23/11/2023 09:52, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m here again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I can’t see anyone else! AnyRats about?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Waving!
>>>>
>>>> Drowning!
>>>
>>> Far out!
>>
>> BTN
>
> Accepted though close to being witty without the cringe.
>
> john
>

Whoosh?

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: Nick Odell - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 17:14 UTC

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 16:27:57 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 24/11/2023 12:11, Vicky wrote:
>>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:20:46 +0000, Clive Arthur
>>> <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:16, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> On 23-Nov-23 9:59, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 09:52, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m here again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I can’t see anyone else! AnyRats about?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Waving!
>>>>>
>>>>> Drowning!
>>>>
>>>> Far out!
>>>
>>> BTN
>>
>> Accepted though close to being witty without the cringe.
>>
>> john
>>
>
>Whoosh?

You had to be there, Mike

Nick

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 by: Sally Thompson - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 18:01 UTC

Serena Blanchflower <nospam@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
> On 23/11/2023 18:20, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 23-Nov-23 13:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2023 12:05, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Although I have a feeling that it may be superseded by the Miles (or
>>>> possibly, Bruce) storyline, as Rob's family want control of the only
>>>> Titchener grandchild.
>>>
>>> In the admittedly unlikely event that Rob died intestate, Jack would
>>> get the lot, whatever that is, I think.
>>>
>>> There's certainly room for mischief-making from beyond the grave.
>>
>> Bequest conditional on a name change to Gideon?
>>
>
> That does sound all too believable. He'd probably want him to be a
> Titchener, as well as being Gideon.
>

IANAL but I don't think such conditions are enforceable.

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK

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 by: Vicky - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 18:18 UTC

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 16:27:57 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
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>John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 24/11/2023 12:11, Vicky wrote:
>>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:20:46 +0000, Clive Arthur
>>> <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:16, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> On 23-Nov-23 9:59, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 09:52, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m here again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I can’t see anyone else! AnyRats about?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Waving!
>>>>>
>>>>> Drowning!
>>>>
>>>> Far out!
>>>
>>> BTN
>>
>> Accepted though close to being witty without the cringe.
>>
>> john
>>
>
>Whoosh?

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46479/not-waving-but-drowning

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Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 16:27:57 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 24/11/2023 12:11, Vicky wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:20:46 +0000, Clive Arthur
>>>> <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:16, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>> On 23-Nov-23 9:59, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 09:52, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m here again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I can’t see anyone else! AnyRats about?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Waving!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drowning!
>>>>>
>>>>> Far out!
>>>>
>>>> BTN
>>>
>>> Accepted though close to being witty without the cringe.
>>>
>>> john
>>>
>>
>> Whoosh?
>
>
> https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46479/not-waving-but-drowning
>

I’ve heard of ‘Not waving but Drowning’ but BTN?

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 18:28:08 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 16:27:57 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 24/11/2023 12:11, Vicky wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:20:46 +0000, Clive Arthur
>>>>> <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:16, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23-Nov-23 9:59, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 09:52, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> We are here, I saw my test message fly away, but not come back!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I?m here again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But I can?t see anyone else! AnyRats about?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Waving!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Drowning!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Far out!
>>>>>
>>>>> BTN
>>>>
>>>> Accepted though close to being witty without the cringe.
>>>>
>>>> john
>>>>
>>>
>>> Whoosh?
>>
>>
>> https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46479/not-waving-but-drowning
>>
>
>I’ve heard of ‘Not waving but Drowning’ but BTN?

Well far out is where he was and slang jokey and he dies.

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 18:59 UTC

In message <ksc6o5F2r1qU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 24 Nov 2023
18:01:41, Sally Thompson <thompson.stonybrook@gmail.com.invalid> writes
>Serena Blanchflower <nospam@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 23/11/2023 18:20, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 23-Nov-23 13:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2023 12:05, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I have a feeling that it may be superseded by the Miles (or
>>>>> possibly, Bruce) storyline, as Rob's family want control of the only
>>>>> Titchener grandchild.
>>>>
>>>> In the admittedly unlikely event that Rob died intestate, Jack would
>>>> get the lot, whatever that is, I think.
>>>>
>>>> There's certainly room for mischief-making from beyond the grave.
>>>
>>> Bequest conditional on a name change to Gideon?
>>>
>>
>> That does sound all too believable. He'd probably want him to be a
>> Titchener, as well as being Gideon.
>>
>
>IANAL but I don't think such conditions are enforceable.
>
IANAL either, but assuming the suggestion is some bequest that was only
granted if the name-change was implemented, my thought was that it could
probably be done, but would need careful writing to ensure the recipient
didn't just change his name to get the bequest, then change it back
again immediately. The only way I can think of it would be a drip-feed
bequest.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"The great tragedy of science, the slaying of a beautiful theory by an ugly
fact. - Thomas Henry Huxley

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 19:26 UTC

On 24-Nov-23 18:01, Sally Thompson wrote:
> Serena Blanchflower <nospam@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 23/11/2023 18:20, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 23-Nov-23 13:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2023 12:05, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I have a feeling that it may be superseded by the Miles (or
>>>>> possibly, Bruce) storyline, as Rob's family want control of the only
>>>>> Titchener grandchild.
>>>>
>>>> In the admittedly unlikely event that Rob died intestate, Jack would
>>>> get the lot, whatever that is, I think.
>>>>
>>>> There's certainly room for mischief-making from beyond the grave.
>>>
>>> Bequest conditional on a name change to Gideon?
>>>
>>
>> That does sound all too believable. He'd probably want him to be a
>> Titchener, as well as being Gideon.
>>
>
> IANAL but I don't think such conditions are enforceable.
>
We would need to take a charabanc over to uk.legal.moderated, and pepper
them with these questions.

They might be able to come up with some terrible post-demise
mischief-making that we haven't thought of.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Serena Blanchflower - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:45 UTC

On 24/11/2023 18:01, Sally Thompson wrote:
> Serena Blanchflower <nospam@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 23/11/2023 18:20, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 23-Nov-23 13:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2023 12:05, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I have a feeling that it may be superseded by the Miles (or
>>>>> possibly, Bruce) storyline, as Rob's family want control of the only
>>>>> Titchener grandchild.
>>>>
>>>> In the admittedly unlikely event that Rob died intestate, Jack would
>>>> get the lot, whatever that is, I think.
>>>>
>>>> There's certainly room for mischief-making from beyond the grave.
>>>
>>> Bequest conditional on a name change to Gideon?
>>>
>>
>> That does sound all too believable. He'd probably want him to be a
>> Titchener, as well as being Gideon.
>>
>
> IANAL but I don't think such conditions are enforceable.
>

Like you, IANAL, but I'm sure you're right. Even if you weren't able to
simply ignore such condition, I'm confident that it's a term that the
court would be happy to strike out. Either way, and especially with
Miles stirring things, as executor and trustee, it would greatly add to
Helen's angst.

--
Best wishes, Serena
Exercise is bunk. If you are healthy you don't need it. If you are
sick, you shouldn't take it. (Henry Ford)

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 by: Clive Arthur - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:12 UTC

On 24/11/2023 18:28, Mike McMillan wrote:

<snip mildly humorous quip>

>> https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46479/not-waving-but-drowning
>>
>
> I’ve heard of ‘Not waving but Drowning’ but BTN?

I just love larking.

Much as I'd like to be considered for the award with the concomitant
(thank god for spell chequers) large cash prize, I understand that
entries are limited to ten per person, and that doesn't make the grade.

I do love that poem though, especially because I'm not sure why.

--
Cheers
Clive

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:30 UTC

On 24-Nov-23 20:45, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
> On 24/11/2023 18:01, Sally Thompson wrote:
>> Serena Blanchflower <nospam@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2023 18:20, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> On 23-Nov-23 13:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>>>> On 23/11/2023 12:05, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although I have a feeling that it may be superseded by the Miles (or
>>>>>> possibly, Bruce) storyline, as Rob's family want control of the only
>>>>>> Titchener grandchild.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the admittedly unlikely event that Rob died intestate, Jack would
>>>>> get the lot, whatever that is, I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's certainly room for mischief-making from beyond the grave.
>>>>
>>>> Bequest conditional on a name change to Gideon?
>>>>
>>>
>>> That does sound all too believable.  He'd probably want him to be a
>>> Titchener, as well as being Gideon.
>>>
>>
>> IANAL but I don't think such conditions are enforceable.
>>
>
> Like you, IANAL, but I'm sure you're right.  Even if you weren't able to
> simply ignore such condition, I'm confident that it's a term that the
> court would be happy to strike out.  Either way, and especially with
> Miles stirring things, as executor and trustee, it would greatly add to
> Helen's angst.
>
A court might strike it out, but in true Jarndyce v Jarndyce fashion the
value of any bequest might be entirely swallowed up by the cost of
litigation.

--
Sam Plusnet

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On 24/11/2023 16:27, Mike McMillan wrote:
> John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 24/11/2023 12:11, Vicky wrote:
>>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:20:46 +0000, Clive Arthur
>>> <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:16, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> On 23-Nov-23 9:59, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 09:52, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m here again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I can’t see anyone else! AnyRats about?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Waving!
>>>>>
>>>>> Drowning!
>>>>
>>>> Far out!
>>>
>>> BTN
>>
>> Accepted though close to being witty without the cringe.
>>
>> john
>>
>
> Whoosh?
>

Stevie Smith.

john

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 by: Serena Blanchflower - Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:18 UTC

On 24/11/2023 23:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 24-Nov-23 20:45, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>> On 24/11/2023 18:01, Sally Thompson wrote:
>>> Serena Blanchflower <nospam@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:20, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> On 23-Nov-23 13:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 12:05, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although I have a feeling that it may be superseded by the Miles (or
>>>>>>> possibly, Bruce) storyline, as Rob's family want control of the only
>>>>>>> Titchener grandchild.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the admittedly unlikely event that Rob died intestate, Jack would
>>>>>> get the lot, whatever that is, I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's certainly room for mischief-making from beyond the grave.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bequest conditional on a name change to Gideon?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That does sound all too believable.  He'd probably want him to be a
>>>> Titchener, as well as being Gideon.
>>>>
>>>
>>> IANAL but I don't think such conditions are enforceable.
>>>
>>
>> Like you, IANAL, but I'm sure you're right.  Even if you weren't able
>> to simply ignore such condition, I'm confident that it's a term that
>> the court would be happy to strike out.  Either way, and especially
>> with Miles stirring things, as executor and trustee, it would greatly
>> add to Helen's angst.
>>
> A court might strike it out, but in true Jarndyce v Jarndyce fashion the
> value of any bequest might be entirely swallowed up by the cost of
> litigation.
>

I think that, if I was Helen[1], I might prefer that to either accepting
Rob's conditions or allowing the Titcheners to benefit from the bequest.

[1] and, possibly, depending on the size and nature of the disputed bequest

--
Best wishes, Serena
Q. When is it unlucky to see a black cat?
A. When you're a mouse


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