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* Change iMac nameJohn Hill
+* Change iMac nameAlan B
|+* Change iMac nameAlan B
||`* Change iMac nameAlan B
|| +* Change iMac nameJaimie Vandenbergh
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|`* Change iMac nameTimS
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From: watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk (John Hill)
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 by: John Hill - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 09:54 UTC

My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has been changed
to John’s iMac (3).

I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
running MacOS.

It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
original and if so, how?

And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?

John.
--
God made the integers; all else is the work of man.

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From: alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B)
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Subject: Re: Change iMac name
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 by: Alan B - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 10:04 UTC

On 2023-12-09, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has been changed
> to John’s iMac (3).
>
> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
> running MacOS.
>
> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
> original and if so, how?
>
> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?

Apple menu > System Settings, click General in the sidebar, then click About
on the right and type a new name in the Name field. You may need to do a
Command + A before you enter a new name.

--
Cheers, Alan

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From: alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B)
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 by: Alan B - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 10:20 UTC

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-12-09, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has been changed
>> to John’s iMac (3).
>>
>> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
>> running MacOS.
>>
>> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
>> original and if so, how?
>>
>> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?
>
> Apple menu > System Settings, click General in the sidebar, then click About
> on the right and type a new name in the Name field. You may need to do a
> Command + A before you enter a new name.

Sorry I didn’t actually answer your question - not properly awake yet ;)
it’s happened to be a few times but I think it might have been something to
do with rebuilding my Mac from scratch. A bit of googling may produce a
more definitive answer.

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: Alan B - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 10:24 UTC

On 2023-12-09, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-09, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has been changed
>>> to John’s iMac (3).
>>>
>>> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
>>> running MacOS.
>>>
>>> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
>>> original and if so, how?
>>>
>>> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?
>>
>> Apple menu > System Settings, click General in the sidebar, then click About
>> on the right and type a new name in the Name field. You may need to do a
>> Command + A before you enter a new name.
>
> Sorry I didn’t actually answer your question - not properly awake yet ;)
> it’s happened to be a few times but I think it might have been something to
> do with rebuilding my Mac from scratch. A bit of googling may produce a
> more definitive answer.

Just saw this on the ASC by Linc Davis:

<https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7098796>

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: Jaimie Vandenbergh - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 15:29 UTC

On 9 Dec 2023 at 10:24:23 GMT, "Alan B"
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 2023-12-09, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-09, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has been changed
>>>> to John’s iMac (3).
>>>>
>>>> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
>>>> running MacOS.
>>>>
>>>> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
>>>> original and if so, how?
>>>>
>>>> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?
>>>
>>> Apple menu > System Settings, click General in the sidebar, then click About
>>> on the right and type a new name in the Name field. You may need to do a
>>> Command + A before you enter a new name.
>>
>> Sorry I didn’t actually answer your question - not properly awake yet ;)
>> it’s happened to be a few times but I think it might have been something to
>> do with rebuilding my Mac from scratch. A bit of googling may produce a
>> more definitive answer.
>
> Just saw this on the ASC by Linc Davis:
>
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7098796>

Thread from 2015. There was a long stint where everyone's Macs were
counting up in (2) (3) etc due to a not-terribly-well-written OS X
library (discoveryd) that eventually got dumped and reverted back to the
old one (mDNSresponder).

It still happens occasionally, always did - but it's rare. Just rename
and forget about it, I'd say.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
There's no limit to the amount of work someone can do,
provided it's not the work they're supposed to be doing.

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 by: Alan B - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 15:44 UTC

On 2023-12-09, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 9 Dec 2023 at 10:24:23 GMT, "Alan B"
><alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> Just saw this on the ASC by Linc Davis:
>>
>> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7098796>
>
> Thread from 2015. There was a long stint where everyone's Macs were
> counting up in (2) (3) etc due to a not-terribly-well-written OS X
> library (discoveryd) that eventually got dumped and reverted back to the
> old one (mDNSresponder).
>
> It still happens occasionally, always did - but it's rare. Just rename
> and forget about it, I'd say.

Yes indeed. it's not happened here for years. It was only when John posted
that I remembered it. Not to be confused with hostname of course!!!

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: TimS - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 16:43 UTC

On 09 Dec 2023 at 10:04:42 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2023-12-09, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has been changed
>> to John’s iMac (3).
>>
>> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
>> running MacOS.
>>
>> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
>> original and if so, how?
>>
>> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?
>
> Apple menu > System Settings, click General in the sidebar, then click About
> on the right and type a new name in the Name field. You may need to do a
> Command + A before you enter a new name.

I take it we are talking about the computer name and not the name of the boot
volume.

I'm on Catalina, so (a) I have no sidebar and (b) I look in Sharing, not
General, for the computer name.

--
Tim

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 by: Alan B - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 16:50 UTC

TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
> On 09 Dec 2023 at 10:04:42 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-12-09, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has been changed
>>> to John’s iMac (3).
>>>
>>> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
>>> running MacOS.
>>>
>>> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
>>> original and if so, how?
>>>
>>> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?
>>
>> Apple menu > System Settings, click General in the sidebar, then click About
>> on the right and type a new name in the Name field. You may need to do a
>> Command + A before you enter a new name.
>
> I take it we are talking about the computer name and not the name of the boot
> volume.

Yes the actual computer name and not the volume name.

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 21:47 UTC

Am 09.12.23 um 17:43 schrieb TimS:
> On 09 Dec 2023 at 10:04:42 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-12-09, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has been changed
>>> to John’s iMac (3).
>>>
>>> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
>>> running MacOS.
>>>
>>> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
>>> original and if so, how?
>>>
>>> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?
>>
>> Apple menu > System Settings, click General in the sidebar, then click About
>> on the right and type a new name in the Name field. You may need to do a
>> Command + A before you enter a new name.
>
> I take it we are talking about the computer name and not the name of the boot
> volume.
>
> I'm on Catalina, so (a) I have no sidebar and (b) I look in Sharing, not
> General, for the computer name.

The computer name is primarily relevant in a network context. That is
also why it has to be unique within the network.

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 21:50 UTC

Am 09.12.23 um 22:47 schrieb Jörg Lorenz:
> Am 09.12.23 um 17:43 schrieb TimS:
>> On 09 Dec 2023 at 10:04:42 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-12-09, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has been changed
>>>> to John’s iMac (3).
>>>>
>>>> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
>>>> running MacOS.
>>>>
>>>> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
>>>> original and if so, how?
>>>>
>>>> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?
>>>
>>> Apple menu > System Settings, click General in the sidebar, then click About
>>> on the right and type a new name in the Name field. You may need to do a
>>> Command + A before you enter a new name.
>>
>> I take it we are talking about the computer name and not the name of the boot
>> volume.
>>
>> I'm on Catalina, so (a) I have no sidebar and (b) I look in Sharing, not
>> General, for the computer name.
>
> The computer name is primarily relevant in a network context. That is
> also why it has to be unique within the network.

BTW: Open Spotlight and enter "Computer Name"

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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 by: John Hill - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 08:57 UTC

On 9 Dec 2023 at 10:24:23 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2023-12-09, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-09, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has been changed
>>>> to John’s iMac (3).
>>>>
>>>> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
>>>> running MacOS.
>>>>
>>>> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
>>>> original and if so, how?
>>>>
>>>> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?
>>>
>>> Apple menu > System Settings, click General in the sidebar, then click About
>>> on the right and type a new name in the Name field. You may need to do a
>>> Command + A before you enter a new name.
>>
>> Sorry I didn’t actually answer your question - not properly awake yet ;)
>> it’s happened to be a few times but I think it might have been something to
>> do with rebuilding my Mac from scratch. A bit of googling may produce a
>> more definitive answer.
>
> Just saw this on the ASC by Linc Davis:
>
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7098796>

And it has revealed the cause:
"You have two simultaneous connections to the same local network: probably
Ethernet and Wi-Fi. If applicable, disconnect the Ethernet cable or turn off
Wi-Fi."

So I have turned off the WiFi. At the moment my Ethernet socket is behaving
oddly - a bit intermittent. I have no idea how to check it; my son is visiting
toorrow and he may be able to find out more. But an Ethernet/USB adaptor in a
USB socket is working fine.

And I have changed the iMac's name back. I tried that before, but it didn't
work - it was the obvious choice. Now it has.

Thank you.

John.

--
Lord, grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

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John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> My iMac used to be called John's iMac. For some reason this has been changed
> to John's iMac (3).
>
> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or whatever
> running MacOS.
>
> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it back to the
> original and if so, how?
>
> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?

It happens when there is a mix-up with adresses on your local network.
When you try connect, and your router thinks there is already a computer
with the same name, it adds a (2)
The next time a (3) and so on. It can go up without limit.

No problem at all, just change it back,

Jan

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 by: Jaimie Vandenbergh - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:09 UTC

On 10 Dec 2023 at 08:57:46 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> And it has revealed the cause:
> "You have two simultaneous connections to the same local network: probably
> Ethernet and Wi-Fi. If applicable, disconnect the Ethernet cable or turn off
> Wi-Fi."

Well, no, that's handled now. That thread was from 8 years ago.

> So I have turned off the WiFi.

If you have an iPhone, this'll break some handoff functionality. If you
don't, it'll mess with a few things - Find My, I think?

> At the moment my Ethernet socket is behaving
> oddly - a bit intermittent.

This would be the actual cause of the rename you first posted about.
Dropping off the network and back on while other things on the network
are still replying to the old connection that has now been reset on your
Mac's end can trigger a "whoops I must have joined a network with a
machine of the same name because I'm seeing traffic with that name on
that I didn't start, better add a (1)"

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted"
-- Bertrand Russell

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 by: John Hill - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 09:38 UTC

On 10 Dec 2023 at 20:09:05 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> On 10 Dec 2023 at 08:57:46 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> And it has revealed the cause:
>> "You have two simultaneous connections to the same local network: probably
>> Ethernet and Wi-Fi. If applicable, disconnect the Ethernet cable or turn off
>> Wi-Fi."
>
> Well, no, that's handled now. That thread was from 8 years ago.
>
>> So I have turned off the WiFi.
>
> If you have an iPhone, this'll break some handoff functionality. If you
> don't, it'll mess with a few things - Find My, I think?
>
>> At the moment my Ethernet socket is behaving
>> oddly - a bit intermittent.
>
> This would be the actual cause of the rename you first posted about.
> Dropping off the network and back on while other things on the network
> are still replying to the old connection that has now been reset on your
> Mac's end can trigger a "whoops I must have joined a network with a
> machine of the same name because I'm seeing traffic with that name on
> that I didn't start, better add a (1)"
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

Seems you are right. Althugh I have turned WiFi back on, I can no longer make
calls on my iPhone from the iMac, although Handoff is on and Facetime is set
to permit it.

I'll have to worry about that later. Visitors coming soon.

John.
--
Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do.
Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you tell them to do.

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 by: John Doe - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 18:51 UTC

On 9 Dec 2023 at 23:09:49 GMT, "David Brooks" <BDB@invalid.invalid.uk> wrote:

> On 09/12/2023 21:50, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 09.12.23 um 22:47 schrieb Jörg Lorenz:
>>> Am 09.12.23 um 17:43 schrieb TimS:
>>>> On 09 Dec 2023 at 10:04:42 GMT, "Alan B"
>>>> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2023-12-09, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> My iMac used to be called John’s iMac. For some reason this has
>>>>>> been changed
>>>>>> to John’s iMac (3).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do have an iPad and an iPhone, but no other desktop, laptop or
>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>> running MacOS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's of no real importance other than my whim, but can I edit it
>>>>>> back to the
>>>>>> original and if so, how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And any suggestions as to how/why it changed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple menu > System Settings, click General in the sidebar, then
>>>>> click About
>>>>> on the right and type a new name in the Name field. You may need to
>>>>> do a
>>>>> Command + A before you enter a new name.
>>>>
>>>> I take it we are talking about the computer name and not the name of
>>>> the boot
>>>> volume.
>>>>
>>>> I'm on Catalina, so (a) I have no sidebar and (b) I look in Sharing, not
>>>> General, for the computer name.
>>>
>>> The computer name is primarily relevant in a network context. That is
>>> also why it has to be unique within the network.
>>
>> BTW: Open Spotlight and enter "Computer Name"
>
> That works! :-)

IAWTP

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