I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.

--
Cheers, Alan

On 11.01.24 09:30, Alan B wrote:
> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.

The top of the pyramid and good for another 6-10 years.

--
"Manus manum lavat."

On 11/01/2024 08:30, Alan B wrote:
> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>

The M3 is my local motorway. That seems justification enough...

--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England

On Jan 11, 2024 at 3:30:57 AM EST, "Alan B"
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.

Which model was it? The 16" M3 MacBook Pro can be 12, 14 or 16 Cores with up
to 128GB RAM.

I have the 2023 M2 model MacBook Pro with 12 Cores, 1 TB SSD and 32GB RAM. It
is plenty fast for what I do. I have Windows 11 installed in a VMWare VM and
it runs fine also. Which helps me justify the price since it is literally 2
laptops in one. :-)

It has a great screen and is very fast, but it also the best audio I have ever
heard in a laptop.

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly!

Compared to what? And what were you able to run on the display machine to
be able to say that?

I've recently moved from a base M1 to an M2 Pro and the difference wasn't
really noticeable. In contrast, the difference from my intel MBP to the M1
was huge.

Am 12.01.24 um 00:22 schrieb Chris:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly!
>
> Compared to what? And what were you able to run on the display machine to
> be able to say that?
>
> I've recently moved from a base M1 to an M2 Pro and the difference wasn't
> really noticeable. In contrast, the difference from my intel MBP to the M1
> was huge.

Sure. That is what everyone would expect. The Silicon-Macs are a
completely different class of performance. I still use my T2-Intel MBP
alongside my mini M2pro. They are worlds apart.

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

On 11 Jan 2024 at 19:20:06 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:

> On 11/01/2024 08:30, Alan B wrote:
>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>
>
> The M3 is my local motorway. That seems justification enough...

You might have to wait a few years if you lived near the M25 then ;-)

--
Cheers, Alan

On 11 Jan 2024 at 22:29:11 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:

> On Jan 11, 2024 at 3:30:57 AM EST, "Alan B"
> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>
> Which model was it? The 16" M3 MacBook Pro can be 12, 14 or 16 Cores with up
> to 128GB RAM.

The base model - 12 cores, 18GB RAM ("Unified Memory"), 512GB SSD. I'd been
using my Intel MBA in the hotel earlier so invevitably the M3 seemed much
zippier. I left M1 MBP at home but my gut feel is that the M3 has better
performance. Having had eye problems recently I also feel the need for a
larger screen size. Yes I could get an external monitor for my current laptops
but I've been informed that would only add to the household clutter!!!

> I have the 2023 M2 model MacBook Pro with 12 Cores, 1 TB SSD and 32GB RAM. It
> is plenty fast for what I do. I have Windows 11 installed in a VMWare VM and
> it runs fine also. Which helps me justify the price since it is literally 2
> laptops in one. :-)

I run W11 in a Parallels VM but thinking of ditching it in favour of a VM
running under UTM. It's already been pointed out that there is a 15" M2 MBA
which might be a cheaper compromise solution.

--
Cheers, Alan

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 11 Jan 2024 at 19:20:06 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/01/2024 08:30, Alan B wrote:
>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>>
>>
>> The M3 is my local motorway. That seems justification enough...
>
> You might have to wait a few years if you lived near the M25 then ;-)

M90 is my nearest motorway.

On Jan 12, 2024 at 4:02:34 PM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11 Jan 2024 at 19:20:06 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/01/2024 08:30, Alan B wrote:
>>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The M3 is my local motorway. That seems justification enough...
>>
>> You might have to wait a few years if you lived near the M25 then ;-)
>
> M90 is my nearest motorway.

Not to mention that in the classic Star Trek episode "The Ultimate Computer",
the computer is called The M-5.

On 12 Jan 2024 at 23:29:10 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:

> On Jan 12, 2024 at 4:02:34 PM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 11 Jan 2024 at 19:20:06 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/01/2024 08:30, Alan B wrote:
>>>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The M3 is my local motorway. That seems justification enough...
>>>
>>> You might have to wait a few years if you lived near the M25 then ;-)
>>
>> M90 is my nearest motorway.
>
> Not to mention that in the classic Star Trek episode "The Ultimate Computer",
> the computer is called The M-5.

Wandering, wandering… Prior to their lamented demise Ferranti were producing
the M700 computer…

Old John.

--
Frustra fit per plura, quod potest fieri per pauciora - William of Occam.

John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 12 Jan 2024 at 23:29:10 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 12, 2024 at 4:02:34 PM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 11 Jan 2024 at 19:20:06 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/01/2024 08:30, Alan B wrote:
>>>>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>>>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>>>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>>>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>>>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The M3 is my local motorway. That seems justification enough...
>>>>
>>>> You might have to wait a few years if you lived near the M25 then ;-)
>>>
>>> M90 is my nearest motorway.
>>
>> Not to mention that in the classic Star Trek episode "The Ultimate Computer",
>> the computer is called The M-5.
>
> Wandering, wandering… Prior to their lamented demise Ferranti were producing
> the M700 computer…

Was that a development of the Argus 700 which I used briefly on a course at
Gatley in the dim and distant past?

--
Cheers, Alan

Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2024 at 4:02:34 PM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 11 Jan 2024 at 19:20:06 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/01/2024 08:30, Alan B wrote:
>>>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The M3 is my local motorway. That seems justification enough...
>>>
>>> You might have to wait a few years if you lived near the M25 then ;-)
>>
>> M90 is my nearest motorway.
>
> Not to mention that in the classic Star Trek episode "The Ultimate Computer",
> the computer is called The M-5.

Only two years or so to go, then :)

Isn't Scotty born soon as well?

On 11 Jan 2024 at 08:30:57 GMT, "Alan B"
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.

Unless you actually need the 30% extra beef an M3 can provide, now is an
excellent time to shop for M1 Pro and Max machines...

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Sent from my Sun 4/60

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 12 Jan 2024 at 23:29:10 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2024 at 4:02:34 PM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 11 Jan 2024 at 19:20:06 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/01/2024 08:30, Alan B wrote:
>>>>>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>>>>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>>>>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>>>>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>>>>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The M3 is my local motorway. That seems justification enough...
>>>>>
>>>>> You might have to wait a few years if you lived near the M25 then ;-)
>>>>
>>>> M90 is my nearest motorway.
>>>
>>> Not to mention that in the classic Star Trek episode "The Ultimate Computer",
>>> the computer is called The M-5.
>>
>> Wandering, wandering… Prior to their lamented demise Ferranti were producing
>> the M700 computer…
>
> Was that a development of the Argus 700 which I used briefly on a course at
> Gatley in the dim and distant past?
>

Yes, it had the same instruction set. It was used mainly in military
systems - I believe Rapier used it. The Argus 700 was much used in Naval
systems.

Old John.

--
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

On 14 Jan 2024 at 08:43:49 GMT, "John Hill" <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:

> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 12 Jan 2024 at 23:29:10 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jan 12, 2024 at 4:02:34 PM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11 Jan 2024 at 19:20:06 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/01/2024 08:30, Alan B wrote:
>>>>>>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>>>>>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>>>>>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>>>>>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>>>>>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The M3 is my local motorway. That seems justification enough...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You might have to wait a few years if you lived near the M25 then ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> M90 is my nearest motorway.
>>>>
>>>> Not to mention that in the classic Star Trek episode "The Ultimate Computer",
>>>> the computer is called The M-5.
>>>
>>> Wandering, wandering… Prior to their lamented demise Ferranti were producing
>>> the M700 computer…
>>
>> Was that a development of the Argus 700 which I used briefly on a course at
>> Gatley in the dim and distant past?
>>
>
> Yes, it had the same instruction set. It was used mainly in military
> systems - I believe Rapier used it. The Argus 700 was much used in Naval
> systems.

That's correct and it was also used in other MoD systems. I was attending a
CORAL 66 programming course and this, I guess, was our "bible" ....

<http://www.xgc-tek.com/manuals/pdf/xgc-c66-1.7-rm.pdf>

--
Cheers, Alan

On 13 Jan 2024 at 22:55:09 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> On 11 Jan 2024 at 08:30:57 GMT, "Alan B"
> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>
> Unless you actually need the 30% extra beef an M3 can provide, now is an
> excellent time to shop for M1 Pro and Max machines...

You're undoubtedly right :)

--
Cheers, Alan

On 14 Jan 2024 at 08:52:03 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

> On 14 Jan 2024 at 08:43:49 GMT, "John Hill" <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 12 Jan 2024 at 23:29:10 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 12, 2024 at 4:02:34 PM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11 Jan 2024 at 19:20:06 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/01/2024 08:30, Alan B wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>>>>>>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>>>>>>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>>>>>>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>>>>>>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The M3 is my local motorway. That seems justification enough...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might have to wait a few years if you lived near the M25 then ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> M90 is my nearest motorway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention that in the classic Star Trek episode "The Ultimate Computer",
>>>>> the computer is called The M-5.
>>>>
>>>> Wandering, wandering… Prior to their lamented demise Ferranti were producing
>>>> the M700 computer…
>>>
>>> Was that a development of the Argus 700 which I used briefly on a course at
>>> Gatley in the dim and distant past?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, it had the same instruction set. It was used mainly in military
>> systems - I believe Rapier used it. The Argus 700 was much used in Naval
>> systems.
>
> That's correct and it was also used in other MoD systems. I was attending a
> CORAL 66 programming course and this, I guess, was our "bible" ....
>
> <http://www.xgc-tek.com/manuals/pdf/xgc-c66-1.7-rm.pdf>

That brings back some memories! I was once fluent in CORAL66; during my time
at ASWE it was my main programming language. It was not until we downsized to
move to a bungalow that the formal definition (along with a lot of other
stuff) finally hit the recycling bin. Sentimentality!

I kept Pascal going on my Mac until about 2004, when it became no longer
possible to run Classic applications on OSX.

Now, zilch. I never had a need to learn a successor.

Old John.
--
God made the integers; all else is the work of man.

On 14 Jan 2024 at 09:09:18 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

>>>>>
>>>>> Wandering, wandering… Prior to their lamented demise Ferranti were producing
>>>>> the M700 computer…
>>>>
>>>> Was that a development of the Argus 700 which I used briefly on a course at
>>>> Gatley in the dim and distant past?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it had the same instruction set. It was used mainly in military
>>> systems - I believe Rapier used it. The Argus 700 was much used in Naval
>>> systems.
>>
>> That's correct and it was also used in other MoD systems. I was attending a
>> CORAL 66 programming course and this, I guess, was our "bible" ....
>>
>> <http://www.xgc-tek.com/manuals/pdf/xgc-c66-1.7-rm.pdf>
>
> That brings back some memories! I was once fluent in CORAL66; during my time
> at ASWE it was my main programming language. It was not until we downsized to
> move to a bungalow that the formal definition (along with a lot of other
> stuff) finally hit the recycling bin. Sentimentality!
>
> I kept Pascal going on my Mac until about 2004, when it became no longer
> possible to run Classic applications on OSX.
>
> Now, zilch. I never had a need to learn a successor.

There's always Swift Playgrounds available via the App Store. I've had a play
myself but not really got very far as there's always something better to do.
(Well that's my excuse ;-) )

--
Cheers, Alan

On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:09:18 -0000 (UTC), John Hill wrote:

> I kept Pascal going on my Mac until about 2004, when it became no longer
> possible to run Classic applications on OSX.

Other/some virtual machines are available for older OSs.

On 14 Jan 2024, John Hill wrote
(in article <uo08bu$cmm6$1@dont-email.me>):

> I kept Pascal going on my Mac until about 2004, when it became no longer
> possible to run Classic applications on OSX.
>
> Now, zilch. I never had a need to learn a successor.
>
> Old John.

The Free Pascal Compiler, fpc, runs on macOS.
In fact, I am using it at the moment to write another Pascal compiler.
Watch this space.

--
Bill Findlay

On 14 Jan 2024 at 08:55:35 GMT, "Alan B"
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 13 Jan 2024 at 22:55:09 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> On 11 Jan 2024 at 08:30:57 GMT, "Alan B"
>> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>
>> Unless you actually need the 30% extra beef an M3 can provide, now is an
>> excellent time to shop for M1 Pro and Max machines...
>
> You're undoubtedly right :)

I was having a rummage on eBay buy-it-now and there have been 2Tb M1 Max
14" going for around £2000 - which is unfortunately still too much for
my current low income circumstances, but also a crazy drop from new
price.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"I think man is the most interesting insect on earth, don't you?"
-- Marvin the Martian

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 14 Jan 2024 at 08:55:35 GMT, "Alan B"
> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 13 Jan 2024 at 22:55:09 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
>> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11 Jan 2024 at 08:30:57 GMT, "Alan B"
>>> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>>
>>> Unless you actually need the 30% extra beef an M3 can provide, now is an
>>> excellent time to shop for M1 Pro and Max machines...
>>
>> You're undoubtedly right :)
>
> I was having a rummage on eBay buy-it-now and there have been 2Tb M1 Max
> 14" going for around £2000

I’ll have a look but such items must go very quickly. A bigger screen
would be better as indicated in earlier posts and a separate bigger
external monitor is also not practical at the moment.

> which is unfortunately still too much for my current low income
circumstances

Sorry to hear that.

--
Cheers, Alan

On 14 Jan 2024 19:24:36 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

>On 14 Jan 2024 at 08:55:35 GMT, "Alan B"
><alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 13 Jan 2024 at 22:55:09 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
>> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11 Jan 2024 at 08:30:57 GMT, "Alan B"
>>> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I spent a few days in Edinburgh recently and naturally visited the Apple
>>>> Store in Princes Street. Whilst there I was able to have a session on a 16”
>>>> M3 MBP and, boy, did it fly! Has anyone actually bought one of these
>>>> beasties and can relate their experiences so far? I’ve previously hinted
>>>> the machine is probably above my pay scale but I’m sorely tempted anyway.
>>>
>>> Unless you actually need

What has "need" got to do with it? ["got to do with it, got to ..."
and now that tune has lodged into the wetware for a while ...]

"Want" and "shiny!" are, of course, all that matter are they not?

When I pop into my local Apple store, I play with the demonstration
M3 MAX MBP's set up on the counters. They really are nice machines.
They even have loads of ports and a lovely screen.

Going to the online store, I configured one I'd like to buy, I maxed
out the max-outable bits and she came to just shy of eight thousand
units of UKland Sterlings. That's a lot.

*WANT*!

"Need"? Bah, "need" is irrelevant. :)

>>>the 30% extra beef an M3 can provide, now is an
>>> excellent time to shop for M1 Pro and Max machines...

Nah. Not *shiny!* enough. :)

>>
>> You're undoubtedly right :)
>
>I was having a rummage on eBay buy-it-now and there have been 2Tb M1 Max
>14" going for around £2000 - which is unfortunately still too much for
>my current low income circumstances, but also a crazy drop from new
>price.

Ooooooohhhh! *shiny*. *Want!* Uhm ... well ... I don't use ebay any
more but I'm off to have a look ...

...

Ooohhh! Yes, well. That was nice and I'm rather tempted but I still
like the maxed-out M3 MBP. :)

Little child, sweety shop, funds.

A lethal combination. :)

>
> Cheers - Jaimie

This is going to take some thinking. I *hate* taking thinking.

Is greed, self-indulgence and sheer selfishness sufficient
justification for buying a shiny, new toy?

I know I'm bad but they are so *shiny!*

J.

On 14 Jan 2024, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
(in article <l0iqnkFb3c2U1@mid.individual.net>):

> I was having a rummage on eBay buy-it-now and there have been 2Tb M1 Max
> 14" going for around £2000 - which is unfortunately still too much for
> my current low income circumstances, but also a crazy drop from new
> price.

Thanks for the tip - I just picked one up for a whisker over £2k. Very
pleased with it!

MST