On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:34:38 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 12:53:48 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> >On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:51:48 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com>
> >wrote:

> >I think I probably know what you mean by "switch pigs", but web
> >searching only offered me information on pork farming.

> I've never heard of it either, FWIW.

The Spirit moves me to descant upon the sorry state of search engines.
They used to return determinate lists, which could be shortened by
applying various filters upon date, keywords included, keywords
excluded, and host domains. No longer, it seems. Perhaps this is in
response to the emerging breadth of the Web. Nowadays, in order to
produce a foreshortened list, a search engine tries to conjure the
best sense of the search terms given and serves the most likely hits
from a pool of already regularly served sources. The old filters are
still more or less syntactically correct but do not act upon a
definite list — only a foreshortened one, which may or may not include
any of the references you seek. The feeling is like searching Google
Groups: You know the truth is out there, but wringing out determinate
results is futile no matter how you twist the search terms.

--
Worst Case

On 1/26/2024 7:21 AM, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:54:19 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:05:25 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Drake is in 'is 'ammock, and all is right wiv the world....
>>
>> And another WUN-ism that I don't get, and the web won't help me with
>> :-(
>
> https://allpoetry.com/Drake's-Drum
>
Whoa! I started to read that, and my mouth opened. The words came out,
but not with a Yankee accent. I swear it was Devonese! Bizarre. But
beautiful.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 3:21:28 PM UTC, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:54:19 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:05:25 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Drake is in 'is 'ammock, and all is right wiv the world....
> >
> >And another WUN-ism that I don't get, and the web won't help me with
> >:-(
> https://allpoetry.com/Drake's-Drum

I am obliged to the honourable gentleman. Specifically I was thinking a tad lower on
the cultural scale. I am *sure* I remember an episode of "Steptoe and Son" where
Harry Corbett quoted the poem as above. I'll be damned if I can track it down though.
It clearly struck a chord with me, because I occasionally bring it to mind in these
circumstances, and I can hear it clear as day.

<Sigh> I'll miss this place.

--
WUN

WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 3:21:28 PM UTC, Colin Irvine wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:54:19 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:05:25 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Drake is in 'is 'ammock, and all is right wiv the world....
>>>
>>> And another WUN-ism that I don't get, and the web won't help me with
>>> :-(
>> https://allpoetry.com/Drake's-Drum
>
> I am obliged to the honourable gentleman. Specifically I was thinking a tad lower on
> the cultural scale. I am *sure* I remember an episode of "Steptoe and Son" where
> Harry Corbett quoted the poem as above. I'll be damned if I can track it down though.
> It clearly struck a chord with me, because I occasionally bring it to mind in these
> circumstances, and I can hear it clear as day.

> <Sigh> I'll miss this place.

Why? Where’s it going?

--
Spike

Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote in
news:l1ipp3Fo2blU1@mid.individual.net:

> WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 3:21:28 PM UTC, Colin Irvine wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:54:19 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:05:25 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Drake is in 'is 'ammock, and all is right wiv the world....
>>>>
>>>> And another WUN-ism that I don't get, and the web won't help me
>>>> with
>>>> :-(
>>> https://allpoetry.com/Drake's-Drum
>>
>> I am obliged to the honourable gentleman. Specifically I was thinking
>> a tad lower on the cultural scale. I am *sure* I remember an episode
>> of "Steptoe and Son" where Harry Corbett quoted the poem as above.
>> I'll be damned if I can track it down though. It clearly struck a
>> chord with me, because I occasionally bring it to mind in these
>> circumstances, and I can hear it clear as day.
>
>
>> <Sigh> I'll miss this place.
>
> Why? Where’s it going?
>

very soon RIP new posting to Google Groups

If only he knew some sort of person who specialised in legacy IT systems to
configure an nntp client ...

wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
> Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote in
> news:l1ipp3Fo2blU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 3:21:28 PM UTC, Colin Irvine wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:54:19 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:05:25 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Drake is in 'is 'ammock, and all is right wiv the world....
>>>>>
>>>>> And another WUN-ism that I don't get, and the web won't help me
>>>>> with
>>>>> :-(
>>>> https://allpoetry.com/Drake's-Drum
>>>
>>> I am obliged to the honourable gentleman. Specifically I was thinking
>>> a tad lower on the cultural scale. I am *sure* I remember an episode
>>> of "Steptoe and Son" where Harry Corbett quoted the poem as above.
>>> I'll be damned if I can track it down though. It clearly struck a
>>> chord with me, because I occasionally bring it to mind in these
>>> circumstances, and I can hear it clear as day.
>>
>>
>>> <Sigh> I'll miss this place.
>>
>> Why? Where’s it going?
>>
>
> very soon RIP new posting to Google Groups
>
> If only he knew some sort of person who specialised in legacy IT systems to
> configure an nntp client ...

There was Usenet long before Google stuck their unwanted oar in, and
hopefully there will be long after they pull the plug on new postings.
However…

…for the technically bereft, they could try this web-based access:

<https://news.novabbs.org/aus+uk/thread.php?group=uk.rec.motorcycles>

--
Spike

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:34:31 +0100 (CET), "Worst Case"@dizum.com
wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:21:26 +0000, Colin Irvine <look@colinandpat.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> https://allpoetry.com/Drake's-Drum
>
>Well, THAT clears it up, don't it (for us Colonials)? However, THIS
>might:
>
>+ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake%27s_Drum

I don't see any reference to Drake's 'ammock in that.

--
Colin Irvine
R1250RS

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:13:36 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> >On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:05:25 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel...@gmail.com>
>> >wrote:

>> >>Drake is in 'is 'ammock, and all is right wiv the world....

>> >And another WUN-ism that I don't get, and the web won't help me with

>> https://allpoetry.com/Drake's-Drum

>I am obliged to the honourable gentleman. Specifically I was thinking a tad lower on
>the cultural scale. I am *sure* I remember an episode of "Steptoe and Son" where
>Harry Corbett quoted the poem as above. I'll be damned if I can track it down though.
>It clearly struck a chord with me, because I occasionally bring it to mind in these
>circumstances, and I can hear it clear as day.

Yebbut - why did you refer to that poem in response to my post?
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:44:08 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:34:38 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>Bad form and all...
>
>>Difficult to imagine a control issue that could lead to that. Though
>>it's difficult to imagine someone accidentally going full astern,
>>which is what it looks like, either.

>I see they're now claiming that 'faulty wiring' meant that it went
>full astern instead of full ahead. I've not sailed on a
>computer-controlled ship which I assume these would be, so in my
>eperience there has always been a mechanical link in place. But in any
>case it seems a bit odd that it would just suddenly happen with no
>warning at such a crucial point.
>
>So I don't buy the faulty wiring excuse.

M neither! I can understand that a mistake might be made when doing
some maintenance work - but surely that would have been discovered as
soon as the vessel tried to move off? Not when in the middle of a
manouvre
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:24:37 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:13:36 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>> >On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:05:25 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel...@gmail.com>
>>> >wrote:
>
>>> >>Drake is in 'is 'ammock, and all is right wiv the world....
>
>>> >And another WUN-ism that I don't get, and the web won't help me with
>
>>> https://allpoetry.com/Drake's-Drum
>
>>I am obliged to the honourable gentleman. Specifically I was thinking a tad lower on
>>the cultural scale. I am *sure* I remember an episode of "Steptoe and Son" where
>>Harry Corbett quoted the poem as above. I'll be damned if I can track it down though.
>>It clearly struck a chord with me, because I occasionally bring it to mind in these
>>circumstances, and I can hear it clear as day.
>
>Yebbut - why did you refer to that poem in response to my post?

My guess is it's a non-religious variation on "God's in his heaven and
all's right with the world".

--
Colin Irvine
R1250RS

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 2:37:18 PM UTC, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:24:37 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> >Yebbut - why did you refer to that poem in response to my post?
> My guess is it's a non-religious variation on "God's in his heaven and
> all's right with the world".

Just so, a general expression of contentment.

--
WUN

On 26/01/2024 17:59, "Worst Case"@dizum.com wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:34:38 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 12:53:48 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:51:48 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>
>>> I think I probably know what you mean by "switch pigs", but web
>>> searching only offered me information on pork farming.
>
>> I've never heard of it either, FWIW.
>
> The Spirit moves me to descant upon the sorry state of search engines.
> They used to return determinate lists, which could be shortened by
> applying various filters upon date, keywords included, keywords
> excluded, and host domains. No longer, it seems.

Google still does, Bing doesn't, as far as I can tell. Getting search
results out of Bing is like asking for a glass of water and getting a
bucketful in the face.

--
Pip

CHUMP #1
(CHarge Up MuPpet)

In article <14c7621f-6613-4522-8e4b-febd410cf03fn@googlegroups.com>, WUN says...
>
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 10:39:09 PM UTC, WUN wrote:
> > In this case I suspect something akin to
> > "Full ahead!" when someone forgot to switch it from "Full astern".
>
> Or - to put it in more local terms - let's say someone has done two laps of
> the Mountain Circuit, and absolutely *must* pull into the pit for fuel, and... doesn't.

See, now it makes complete sense

On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:42:47 +0000, PipL <pluscher@nowhere.nul> wrote:

>On 26/01/2024 17:59, "Worst Case"@dizum.com wrote:

>> The Spirit moves me to descant upon the sorry state of search engines.
>> They used to return determinate lists, which could be shortened by
>> applying various filters upon date, keywords included, keywords
>> excluded, and host domains. No longer, it seems.
>
>
>Google still does, Bing doesn't, as far as I can tell. Getting search
>results out of Bing is like asking for a glass of water and getting a
>bucketful in the face.

Google, bing, DDG are all pants these days. Not a single one allows
exact match searching using double-quotes any more and many of the
keywords seem to be completely ignored. I used to use + and -, for
example, but they make fuck all difference these days.
--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:27:41 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 2:37:18?PM UTC, Colin Irvine wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:24:37 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>> >Yebbut - why did you refer to that poem in response to my post?

>> My guess is it's a non-religious variation on "God's in his heaven and
>> all's right with the world".

>Just so, a general expression of contentment.

You're *weird*
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 28/01/2024 09:10, Ace wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:42:47 +0000, PipL <pluscher@nowhere.nul> wrote:
>
>> On 26/01/2024 17:59, "Worst Case"@dizum.com wrote:
>
>>> The Spirit moves me to descant upon the sorry state of search engines.
>>> They used to return determinate lists, which could be shortened by
>>> applying various filters upon date, keywords included, keywords
>>> excluded, and host domains. No longer, it seems.
>>
>>
>> Google still does, Bing doesn't, as far as I can tell. Getting search
>> results out of Bing is like asking for a glass of water and getting a
>> bucketful in the face.
>
> Google, bing, DDG are all pants these days. Not a single one allows
> exact match searching using double-quotes any more and many of the
> keywords seem to be completely ignored. I used to use + and -, for
> example, but they make fuck all difference these days.

Just tried quotes on Google: still seems to work, at the top of the list
anyway.

--
Pip

CHUMP #1
(CHarge Up MuPpet)

PipL <pluscher@nowhere.nul> wrote in news:l1n1a0Fg8s1U1@mid.individual.net:

> On 28/01/2024 09:10, Ace wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:42:47 +0000, PipL <pluscher@nowhere.nul> wrote:
>>
>>> On 26/01/2024 17:59, "Worst Case"@dizum.com wrote:
>>
>>>> The Spirit moves me to descant upon the sorry state of search engines.
>>>> They used to return determinate lists, which could be shortened by
>>>> applying various filters upon date, keywords included, keywords
>>>> excluded, and host domains. No longer, it seems.
>>>
>>>
>>> Google still does, Bing doesn't, as far as I can tell. Getting search
>>> results out of Bing is like asking for a glass of water and getting a
>>> bucketful in the face.
>>
>> Google, bing, DDG are all pants these days. Not a single one allows
>> exact match searching using double-quotes any more and many of the
>> keywords seem to be completely ignored. I used to use + and -, for
>> example, but they make fuck all difference these days.
>
> Just tried quotes on Google: still seems to work, at the top of the list
> anyway.
>

also, in google, click "tools" and there is a verbatim option

On 1/28/2024 4:22 AM, Champ wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:27:41 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 2:37:18?PM UTC, Colin Irvine wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:24:37 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> Yebbut - why did you refer to that poem in response to my post?
>
>>> My guess is it's a non-religious variation on "God's in his heaven and
>>> all's right with the world".
>
>> Just so, a general expression of contentment.
>
> You're *weird*

Better than *wired*
IMHO

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 27/01/2024 14:28, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:44:08 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:34:38 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bad form and all...
>>
>>> Difficult to imagine a control issue that could lead to that. Though
>>> it's difficult to imagine someone accidentally going full astern,
>>> which is what it looks like, either.
>
>> I see they're now claiming that 'faulty wiring' meant that it went
>> full astern instead of full ahead. I've not sailed on a
>> computer-controlled ship which I assume these would be, so in my
>> eperience there has always been a mechanical link in place. But in any
>> case it seems a bit odd that it would just suddenly happen with no
>> warning at such a crucial point.
>>
>> So I don't buy the faulty wiring excuse.
>
> M neither! I can understand that a mistake might be made when doing
> some maintenance work - but surely that would have been discovered as
> soon as the vessel tried to move off? Not when in the middle of a
> manouvre

Tugs were used to move the ship away from its berth. Looks like it had
just been lined-up to move off when the engines went into reverse.

It's not clear why full (or significant) power seems to be being used so
close to the dockside. I can only assume the captain started off under
'slow ahead' (or whatever it is these days), realised he was going
backwards, thought the wind had caught the ship and so ordered more power.

It's unlikely that "rewiring fault" was uppermost in his mind.

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 00:00:42 +0000, Bruce Horrocks
<07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:

>Tugs were used to move the ship away from its berth.

Where did you get that information from? Only there are no signs of
tugs in the water anywhere near, there's no sign of water turbulence
they would have generated, which would normally be quite significant
when a ship is towed out sideways.

>Looks like it had
>just been lined-up to move off when the engines went into reverse.

It's not at all where I would expect it to be if tugs had been used.
And I'm not at allconvinced they would need tugs anyway, small[1]
light, highly manouvrerable with bow thrusters, an open sea exit and
no close neighbours on the quay.

>It's not clear why full (or significant) power seems to be being used so
>close to the dockside. I can only assume the captain started off under
>'slow ahead' (or whatever it is these days), realised he was going
>backwards, thought the wind had caught the ship and so ordered more power.

That does seem almost feasible, but I still cannot imagine a 'wiring
fault' suddenly appearing just at that moment.

[1] It's all relative.
--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

> 'I could tell you my adventures — beginning from this morning,' said
> Alice a little timidly, 'but it's no use going back to yesterday,
> because I was a different person then.'

> 'Explain all that,' said the Mock Turtle.

> 'No, no! The adventures first,' said the Gryphon in an impatient
> tone, 'explanations take such a dreadful time.'

But you asked for it (explanations).

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:05:25 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Drake is in 'is 'ammock, and all is right wiv the world....

.... which to me seemed perfectly nonsensical, but, then ...

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:21:26 +0000, Colin Irvine <look@colinandpat.co.uk> wrote:

> https://allpoetry.com/Drake's-Drum

Apparently you felt (perhaps justifiably) that that in itself was all
the explanation needed. Indeed, it filled a gap in my experience as I
had never seen the poem (1897) by Sir Henry Newbolt (knighted in
1915), much less any allusion to it. Yet, the poem seemed itself
nonsensical to me because I lacked the proper cultural background even
to guess what the author was going on about. Seeking an exegesis, I
immediately turned up the Wikipedia entry.

> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:34:31 +0100 (CET), "Worst Case"@dizum.com
wrote:

> Well, THAT clears it up, don't it (for us Colonials)? However, THIS
> might:

> + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake%27s_Drum

.... so my comment was to the effect that the poem did not stand by
itself and needed some sort of further explanation. Having said that,
I feel better (Thanks!) even though the Wikipedia explanation is a
pale thing beside the poem.

I should take the opportunity to explain, as well, that I owe a debt
to USENET for its steadfast ability to expand my consciousness.

--
Worst Case

On 27/01/2024 14:28, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:44:08 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:34:38 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bad form and all...
>>
>>> Difficult to imagine a control issue that could lead to that. Though
>>> it's difficult to imagine someone accidentally going full astern,
>>> which is what it looks like, either.
>
>> I see they're now claiming that 'faulty wiring' meant that it went
>> full astern instead of full ahead. I've not sailed on a
>> computer-controlled ship which I assume these would be, so in my
>> eperience there has always been a mechanical link in place. But in any
>> case it seems a bit odd that it would just suddenly happen with no
>> warning at such a crucial point.
>>
>> So I don't buy the faulty wiring excuse.
>
> M neither! I can understand that a mistake might be made when doing
> some maintenance work - but surely that would have been discovered as
> soon as the vessel tried to move off? Not when in the middle of a
> manouvre

In 2017 "Internal wiring issues had delayed the acceptance of RFA
Tidespring, the first of four new naval tankers until January this
year." taken from
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/rfa-tidespring-arrives-home-new-tanker-arrives-uk-customisation-work/

On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:35:21 +0100 (CET), "Worst Case"@dizum.com
wrote:
>
>I should take the opportunity to explain, as well, that I owe a debt
>to USENET for its steadfast ability to expand my consciousness.

You and me both.

--
Colin Irvine
R1250RS

On 29/01/2024 11:53, Ace wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 00:00:42 +0000, Bruce Horrocks
> <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>
>> Tugs were used to move the ship away from its berth.
>
> Where did you get that information from? Only there are no signs of
> tugs in the water anywhere near, there's no sign of water turbulence
> they would have generated, which would normally be quite significant
> when a ship is towed out sideways.

<https://www.navylookout.com/a-naval-accident-in-context-royal-navy-minehunters-collide-in-bahrain/>

>> Looks like it had
>> just been lined-up to move off when the engines went into reverse.
>
> It's not at all where I would expect it to be if tugs had been used.
> And I'm not at allconvinced they would need tugs anyway, small[1]
> light, highly manouvrerable with bow thrusters, an open sea exit and
> no close neighbours on the quay.
>
>> It's not clear why full (or significant) power seems to be being used so
>> close to the dockside. I can only assume the captain started off under
>> 'slow ahead' (or whatever it is these days), realised he was going
>> backwards, thought the wind had caught the ship and so ordered more power.
>
> That does seem almost feasible, but I still cannot imagine a 'wiring
> fault' suddenly appearing just at that moment.

The point being the wiring fault was there all along but no one realised
because the engines weren't used until the tugs had pulled the ship
clear of the quay.

(In case you missed it, the ship had been in for an engine refurbishment
so this, I assume, was the first time they had been used following the
work.)

I think it has Diesel engines so maybe they were started in reverse by
mistake?

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

On 26/01/2024 20:49, Turby wrote:
> On 1/26/2024 7:21 AM, Colin Irvine wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:54:19 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:05:25 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Drake is in 'is 'ammock, and all is right wiv the world....
>>>
>>> And another WUN-ism that I don't get, and the web won't help me with
>>> :-(
>>
>> https://allpoetry.com/Drake's-Drum
>>
> Whoa! I started to read that, and my mouth opened. The words came out,
> but not with a Yankee accent. I swear it was Devonese! Bizarre. But
> beautiful.

It has suddenly plugged a gap in my knowledge. In 1066 and All That, one
of the test questions is "Cap'n, art thou sleeping there below?" with
the footnote "Do not attempt to answer this question". I always wondered
where the question came from.