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From: watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk (John Hill)
Newsgroups: uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.
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by: John Hill - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 09:26 UTC

My iMac has taken to asking me several times a day to enter the password for
my outlook.com address. This is a recent phenomenon; I've been using it for
years with no trouble.

My iPad and iPhone are making no such demand, only the iMac.

I've tried deleting the account and reestablishing it, without effect.

Any suggestions as to what, if anything, can be done to stop this? It's a
nuisance.

I have three other mail accounts, with Microsoft Exchange, Yahoo and iCloud;
no problems there.

Old John.
--
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

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From: alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B)
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Subject: Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.
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by: Alan B - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 09:51 UTC

John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> My iMac has taken to asking me several times a day to enter the password for
> my outlook.com address. This is a recent phenomenon; I've been using it for
> years with no trouble.
>
> My iPad and iPhone are making no such demand, only the iMac.
>
> I've tried deleting the account and reestablishing it, without effect.
>
> Any suggestions as to what, if anything, can be done to stop this? It's a
> nuisance.
>
> I have three other mail accounts, with Microsoft Exchange, Yahoo and iCloud;
> no problems there.

Same problem here and I’ve tried what you’ve done to no avail. I just press
Cancel when the pop up occurs and all seems well until the next time. I’ll
have a search to see if there’s a known issue.

--
Cheers, Alan

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Subject: Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.
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by: Jörg Lorenz - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 10:24 UTC

On 29.01.24 10:51, Alan B wrote:
> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> My iMac has taken to asking me several times a day to enter the password for
>> my outlook.com address. This is a recent phenomenon; I've been using it for
>> years with no trouble.
>>
>> My iPad and iPhone are making no such demand, only the iMac.
>>
>> I've tried deleting the account and reestablishing it, without effect.
>>
>> Any suggestions as to what, if anything, can be done to stop this? It's a
>> nuisance.
>>
>> I have three other mail accounts, with Microsoft Exchange, Yahoo and iCloud;
>> no problems there.
>
> Same problem here and I’ve tried what you’ve done to no avail. I just press
> Cancel when the pop up occurs and all seems well until the next time. I’ll
> have a search to see if there’s a known issue.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/client-developer/legacy-protocols/how-to-authenticate-an-imap-pop-smtp-application-by-using-oauth

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/how-to-enable-oauth2-on-outlook-desktop-not-part/35ce9481-3492-4d94-9d0d-db1cf7a36d26

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From: watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk (John Hill)
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Subject: Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.
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by: John Hill - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 11:52 UTC

On 29 Jan 2024 at 10:24:39 GMT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

> On 29.01.24 10:51, Alan B wrote:
>> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> My iMac has taken to asking me several times a day to enter the password for
>>> my outlook.com address. This is a recent phenomenon; I've been using it for
>>> years with no trouble.
>>>
>>> My iPad and iPhone are making no such demand, only the iMac.
>>>
>>> I've tried deleting the account and reestablishing it, without effect.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions as to what, if anything, can be done to stop this? It's a
>>> nuisance.
>>>
>>> I have three other mail accounts, with Microsoft Exchange, Yahoo and iCloud;
>>> no problems there.
>>
>> Same problem here and I’ve tried what you’ve done to no avail. I just press
>> Cancel when the pop up occurs and all seems well until the next time. I’ll
>> have a search to see if there’s a known issue.
>
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/client-developer/legacy-protocols/how-to-authenticate-an-imap-pop-smtp-application-by-using-oauth
>
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/how-to-enable-oauth2-on-outlook-desktop-not-part/35ce9481-3492-4d94-9d0d-db1cf7a36d26

This requires careful thought. There's a lot to read.

It seems unnecessarily complex. But this is one of my main addresses, and it
would involve an awful lot of effort to discard it.

I've got them in PDF, I'll read them in the hope that can understand what is
going on.

Old John (feeling VERY old at the moment).
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From: alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B)
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by: Alan B - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:54 UTC

On 29 Jan 2024 at 11:52:07 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 29 Jan 2024 at 10:24:39 GMT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> On 29.01.24 10:51, Alan B wrote:
>>> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> My iMac has taken to asking me several times a day to enter the password for
>>>> my outlook.com address. This is a recent phenomenon; I've been using it for
>>>> years with no trouble.
>>>>
>>>> My iPad and iPhone are making no such demand, only the iMac.
>>>>
>>>> I've tried deleting the account and reestablishing it, without effect.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions as to what, if anything, can be done to stop this? It's a
>>>> nuisance.
>>>>
>>>> I have three other mail accounts, with Microsoft Exchange, Yahoo and iCloud;
>>>> no problems there.
>>>
>>> Same problem here and I’ve tried what you’ve done to no avail. I just press
>>> Cancel when the pop up occurs and all seems well until the next time. I’ll
>>> have a search to see if there’s a known issue.
>>
>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/client-developer/legacy-protocols/how-to-authenticate-an-imap-pop-smtp-application-by-using-oauth
>>
>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/how-to-enable-oauth2-on-outlook-desktop-not-part/35ce9481-3492-4d94-9d0d-db1cf7a36d26
>
> This requires careful thought. There's a lot to read.
>
> It seems unnecessarily complex. But this is one of my main addresses, and it
> would involve an awful lot of effort to discard it.
>
> I've got them in PDF, I'll read them in the hope that can understand what is
> going on.
>
> Old John (feeling VERY old at the moment).

I've followed the instructions on the link below and set it up to be an
Exchange account, thus enabling "modern authentication". So far so good.

<https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>

--
Cheers, Alan

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by: Andy H - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 15:55 UTC

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> <https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>

Issues here too today. I wonder if there’s a server fault.

I’ve got the little lightning icon next to the Outlook in Mail, and no
amount of attempts to fix it are working here.

So far I’ve tried re-entering my password, I did have an App password set,
but it’s not recognised. I tried my Outlook login password, which didn’t
work either (to be expected I guess). I also tried revoking the password,
and creating a new one - still not recognised. I’ve now removed the
account, and can’t add it again.

--
Andy H

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by: Andy Hewitt - Tue, 30 Jan 2024 06:20 UTC

On 29/01/2024 15:55, Andy H wrote:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> <https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>
>
> Issues here too today. I wonder if there’s a server fault.
>
> I’ve got the little lightning icon next to the Outlook in Mail, and no
> amount of attempts to fix it are working here.
>
> So far I’ve tried re-entering my password, I did have an App password set,
> but it’s not recognised. I tried my Outlook login password, which didn’t
> work either (to be expected I guess). I also tried revoking the password,
> and creating a new one - still not recognised. I’ve now removed the
> account, and can’t add it again.

Ok, so this is only affecting the MacBook, which is on OS 13.6.4. The
iDevices are working fine with it.

It seems it might be to do with the updates MS have done to the login
security options. I've followed all the instructions I can find, but
it's just not recognising my login credentials.

--
Andy H

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by: Alan B - Tue, 30 Jan 2024 07:44 UTC

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
> On 29/01/2024 15:55, Andy H wrote:
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> <https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>
>>
>> Issues here too today. I wonder if there’s a server fault.
>>
>> I’ve got the little lightning icon next to the Outlook in Mail, and no
>> amount of attempts to fix it are working here.
>>
>> So far I’ve tried re-entering my password, I did have an App password set,
>> but it’s not recognised. I tried my Outlook login password, which didn’t
>> work either (to be expected I guess). I also tried revoking the password,
>> and creating a new one - still not recognised. I’ve now removed the
>> account, and can’t add it again.
>
> Ok, so this is only affecting the MacBook, which is on OS 13.6.4. The
> iDevices are working fine with it.
>
> It seems it might be to do with the updates MS have done to the login
> security options. I've followed all the instructions I can find, but
> it's just not recognising my login credentials.

My Sonoma Mac and my Monterey Mac seem Ok now having followed the
instructions re Exchange accounts. I’ve yet to touch Mojave . Like you all
my iDevices are running Apple Mail fine and I’ve yet to see the password
prompt on them.

--
Cheers, Alan

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by: John Hill - Tue, 30 Jan 2024 08:29 UTC

On 29 Jan 2024 at 12:54:32 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

> On 29 Jan 2024 at 11:52:07 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 29 Jan 2024 at 10:24:39 GMT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29.01.24 10:51, Alan B wrote:
>>>> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> My iMac has taken to asking me several times a day to enter the password for
>>>>> my outlook.com address. This is a recent phenomenon; I've been using it for
>>>>> years with no trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> My iPad and iPhone are making no such demand, only the iMac.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried deleting the account and reestablishing it, without effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions as to what, if anything, can be done to stop this? It's a
>>>>> nuisance.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have three other mail accounts, with Microsoft Exchange, Yahoo and iCloud;
>>>>> no problems there.
>>>>
>>>> Same problem here and I’ve tried what you’ve done to no avail. I just press
>>>> Cancel when the pop up occurs and all seems well until the next time. I’ll
>>>> have a search to see if there’s a known issue.
>>>
>>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/client-developer/legacy-protocols/how-to-authenticate-an-imap-pop-smtp-application-by-using-oauth
>>>
>>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/how-to-enable-oauth2-on-outlook-desktop-not-part/35ce9481-3492-4d94-9d0d-db1cf7a36d26
>>
>> This requires careful thought. There's a lot to read.
>>
>> It seems unnecessarily complex. But this is one of my main addresses, and it
>> would involve an awful lot of effort to discard it.
>>
>> I've got them in PDF, I'll read them in the hope that can understand what is
>> going on.
>>
>> Old John (feeling VERY old at the moment).
>
> I've followed the instructions on the link below and set it up to be an
> Exchange account, thus enabling "modern authentication". So far so good.
>
> <https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>

All these papers refer to Organisations and Admins. ButI am a private
individual as far as Outlook.com is concerned and know nothing about
Exchange365. (My Exchange account is different, it's provided by the Institute
of Physics. No problem there.)

But I'll experiment and see what happens. Later, I've a busy mornng ahead.

Old John.
--
Frustra fit per plura, quod potest fieri per pauciora - William of Occam.

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by: Alan B - Tue, 30 Jan 2024 08:42 UTC

John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 29 Jan 2024 at 12:54:32 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 29 Jan 2024 at 11:52:07 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29 Jan 2024 at 10:24:39 GMT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29.01.24 10:51, Alan B wrote:
>>>>> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> My iMac has taken to asking me several times a day to enter the password for
>>>>>> my outlook.com address. This is a recent phenomenon; I've been using it for
>>>>>> years with no trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My iPad and iPhone are making no such demand, only the iMac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried deleting the account and reestablishing it, without effect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions as to what, if anything, can be done to stop this? It's a
>>>>>> nuisance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have three other mail accounts, with Microsoft Exchange, Yahoo and iCloud;
>>>>>> no problems there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same problem here and I’ve tried what you’ve done to no avail. I just press
>>>>> Cancel when the pop up occurs and all seems well until the next time. I’ll
>>>>> have a search to see if there’s a known issue.
>>>>
>>>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/client-developer/legacy-protocols/how-to-authenticate-an-imap-pop-smtp-application-by-using-oauth
>>>>
>>>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/how-to-enable-oauth2-on-outlook-desktop-not-part/35ce9481-3492-4d94-9d0d-db1cf7a36d26
>>>
>>> This requires careful thought. There's a lot to read.
>>>
>>> It seems unnecessarily complex. But this is one of my main addresses, and it
>>> would involve an awful lot of effort to discard it.
>>>
>>> I've got them in PDF, I'll read them in the hope that can understand what is
>>> going on.
>>>
>>> Old John (feeling VERY old at the moment).
>>
>> I've followed the instructions on the link below and set it up to be an
>> Exchange account, thus enabling "modern authentication". So far so good.
>>
>> <https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>
>
> All these papers refer to Organisations and Admins. ButI am a private
> individual as far as Outlook.com is concerned and know nothing about
> Exchange365. (My Exchange account is different, it's provided by the Institute
> of Physics. No problem there.)

Yes it’s rather odd that I was able to successfully use Exchange type
settings without being part of an organisation. Perhaps MS will spot what
I’ve done and demand payment in addition to my Office365 sub or disconnect
me in some way?

--
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by: Jörg Lorenz - Tue, 30 Jan 2024 08:54 UTC

Am 30.01.24 um 09:42 schrieb Alan B:
> Yes it’s rather odd that I was able to successfully use Exchange type
> settings without being part of an organisation. Perhaps MS will spot what
> I’ve done and demand payment in addition to my Office365 sub or disconnect
> me in some way?

No.

--
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Cinnamon Flavour. Simply better.
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by: Andy Hewitt - Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:04 UTC

On 30/01/2024 07:44, Alan B wrote:
> Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
>> On 29/01/2024 15:55, Andy H wrote:
>>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>
>>>
>>> Issues here too today. I wonder if there’s a server fault.
>>>
>>> I’ve got the little lightning icon next to the Outlook in Mail, and no
>>> amount of attempts to fix it are working here.
>>>
>>> So far I’ve tried re-entering my password, I did have an App password set,
>>> but it’s not recognised. I tried my Outlook login password, which didn’t
>>> work either (to be expected I guess). I also tried revoking the password,
>>> and creating a new one - still not recognised. I’ve now removed the
>>> account, and can’t add it again.
>>
>> Ok, so this is only affecting the MacBook, which is on OS 13.6.4. The
>> iDevices are working fine with it.
>>
>> It seems it might be to do with the updates MS have done to the login
>> security options. I've followed all the instructions I can find, but
>> it's just not recognising my login credentials.
>
> My Sonoma Mac and my Monterey Mac seem Ok now having followed the
> instructions re Exchange accounts. I’ve yet to touch Mojave . Like you all
> my iDevices are running Apple Mail fine and I’ve yet to see the password
> prompt on them.

The iPhone and iPad have now asked for the password again. However, they
are working with the main login password and 2FA. The MacBook is not
doing that, and not recognising the App password I created either.

I've tried using the 'Exchange' setup, and the 'Other' mail account
setup. Neither is working.

--
Andy H

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by: John Hill - Tue, 30 Jan 2024 15:08 UTC

On 30 Jan 2024 at 08:29:03 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 29 Jan 2024 at 12:54:32 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 29 Jan 2024 at 11:52:07 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29 Jan 2024 at 10:24:39 GMT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29.01.24 10:51, Alan B wrote:
>>>>> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> My iMac has taken to asking me several times a day to enter the password for
>>>>>> my outlook.com address. This is a recent phenomenon; I've been using it for
>>>>>> years with no trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My iPad and iPhone are making no such demand, only the iMac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried deleting the account and reestablishing it, without effect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions as to what, if anything, can be done to stop this? It's a
>>>>>> nuisance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have three other mail accounts, with Microsoft Exchange, Yahoo and iCloud;
>>>>>> no problems there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same problem here and I’ve tried what you’ve done to no avail. I just press
>>>>> Cancel when the pop up occurs and all seems well until the next time. I’ll
>>>>> have a search to see if there’s a known issue.
>>>>
>>>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/client-developer/legacy-protocols/how-to-authenticate-an-imap-pop-smtp-application-by-using-oauth
>>>>
>>>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/how-to-enable-oauth2-on-outlook-desktop-not-part/35ce9481-3492-4d94-9d0d-db1cf7a36d26
>>>
>>> This requires careful thought. There's a lot to read.
>>>
>>> It seems unnecessarily complex. But this is one of my main addresses, and it
>>> would involve an awful lot of effort to discard it.
>>>
>>> I've got them in PDF, I'll read them in the hope that can understand what is
>>> going on.
>>>
>>> Old John (feeling VERY old at the moment).
>>
>> I've followed the instructions on the link below and set it up to be an
>> Exchange account, thus enabling "modern authentication". So far so good.
>>
>> <https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>
>
> All these papers refer to Organisations and Admins. ButI am a private
> individual as far as Outlook.com is concerned and know nothing about
> Exchange365. (My Exchange account is different, it's provided by the Institute
> of Physics. No problem there.)
>
> But I'll experiment and see what happens. Later, I've a busy mornng ahead.
>
> Old John.

Well, 'tis done. Now to see what happens…

Old John.

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Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you tell them to do.

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by: Alan B - Wed, 31 Jan 2024 14:16 UTC

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> posted:

> On 30/01/2024 07:44, Alan B wrote:
> > Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
> >> On 29/01/2024 15:55, Andy H wrote:
> >>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> <https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>
> >>>
> >>> Issues here too today. I wonder if there’s a server fault.
> >>>
> >>> I’ve got the little lightning icon next to the Outlook in Mail, and no
> >>> amount of attempts to fix it are working here.
> >>>
> >>> So far I’ve tried re-entering my password, I did have an App password set,
> >>> but it’s not recognised. I tried my Outlook login password, which didn’t
> >>> work either (to be expected I guess). I also tried revoking the password,
> >>> and creating a new one - still not recognised. I’ve now removed the
> >>> account, and can’t add it again.
> >>
> >> Ok, so this is only affecting the MacBook, which is on OS 13.6.4. The
> >> iDevices are working fine with it.
> >>
> >> It seems it might be to do with the updates MS have done to the login
> >> security options. I've followed all the instructions I can find, but
> >> it's just not recognising my login credentials.
> >
> > My Sonoma Mac and my Monterey Mac seem Ok now having followed the
> > instructions re Exchange accounts. I’ve yet to touch Mojave . Like you all
> > my iDevices are running Apple Mail fine and I’ve yet to see the password
> > prompt on them.
>
> The iPhone and iPad have now asked for the password again. However, they
> are working with the main login password and 2FA. The MacBook is not
> doing that, and not recognising the App password I created either.
>
> I've tried using the 'Exchange' setup, and the 'Other' mail account
> setup. Neither is working.

Yet it's still working OK for me - very odd :( Do you have an Office365 sub?

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by: Andy Hewitt - Wed, 31 Jan 2024 16:17 UTC

On 31/01/2024 14:16, Alan B wrote:
> Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> posted:
>
>> On 30/01/2024 07:44, Alan B wrote:
>>> Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> On 29/01/2024 15:55, Andy H wrote:
>>>>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>
>>>>>
>>>>> Issues here too today. I wonder if there’s a server fault.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve got the little lightning icon next to the Outlook in Mail, and no
>>>>> amount of attempts to fix it are working here.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far I’ve tried re-entering my password, I did have an App password set,
>>>>> but it’s not recognised. I tried my Outlook login password, which didn’t
>>>>> work either (to be expected I guess). I also tried revoking the password,
>>>>> and creating a new one - still not recognised. I’ve now removed the
>>>>> account, and can’t add it again.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so this is only affecting the MacBook, which is on OS 13.6.4. The
>>>> iDevices are working fine with it.
>>>>
>>>> It seems it might be to do with the updates MS have done to the login
>>>> security options. I've followed all the instructions I can find, but
>>>> it's just not recognising my login credentials.
>>>
>>> My Sonoma Mac and my Monterey Mac seem Ok now having followed the
>>> instructions re Exchange accounts. I’ve yet to touch Mojave . Like you all
>>> my iDevices are running Apple Mail fine and I’ve yet to see the password
>>> prompt on them.
>>
>> The iPhone and iPad have now asked for the password again. However, they
>> are working with the main login password and 2FA. The MacBook is not
>> doing that, and not recognising the App password I created either.
>>
>> I've tried using the 'Exchange' setup, and the 'Other' mail account
>> setup. Neither is working.
>
> Yet it's still working OK for me - very odd :( Do you have an Office365 sub?

Not on my account I don't.

I'll try again perhaps, although it's not really a huge issue, as I
don't tend to use the MacBook that much for most tasks, it's mostly
there as a media server. It's just irritating when something doesn't
work ;-).

On the plus side, I have just got Chuck Yeager's Air Combat working very
well in Basilisk. So not everything is bad. :-)

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by: Alan B - Wed, 31 Jan 2024 16:35 UTC

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> posted:

[snip]

> On the plus side, I have just got Chuck Yeager's Air Combat working very
> well in Basilisk. So not everything is bad. :-)

Probably works in SheepShaver too?

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by: Graham J - Wed, 31 Jan 2024 17:11 UTC

Andy Hewitt wrote:

[snip]

There might be a problem in Microsoft !!!!

<https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-says-outlook-apps-cant-connect-to-outlookcom/>

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by: Andy H - Wed, 31 Jan 2024 19:46 UTC

Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
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> [snip]
>
>
> There might be a problem in Microsoft !!!!
>
> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-says-outlook-apps-cant-connect-to-outlookcom/>

Thank you, that’s useful, and probably explains a lot :-)

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by: Alan B - Thu, 1 Feb 2024 13:45 UTC

On 2024-01-31, Andy H <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
> Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
>> Andy Hewitt wrote:
>>
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>> There might be a problem in Microsoft !!!!
>>
>> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-says-outlook-apps-cant-connect-to-outlookcom/>
>
> Thank you, that’s useful, and probably explains a lot :-)

+1 from me too :)

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by: John Hill - Fri, 2 Feb 2024 08:01 UTC

On 30 Jan 2024 at 15:08:42 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 30 Jan 2024 at 08:29:03 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 29 Jan 2024 at 12:54:32 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29 Jan 2024 at 11:52:07 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29 Jan 2024 at 10:24:39 GMT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29.01.24 10:51, Alan B wrote:
>>>>>> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> My iMac has taken to asking me several times a day to enter the password for
>>>>>>> my outlook.com address. This is a recent phenomenon; I've been using it for
>>>>>>> years with no trouble.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My iPad and iPhone are making no such demand, only the iMac.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've tried deleting the account and reestablishing it, without effect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestions as to what, if anything, can be done to stop this? It's a
>>>>>>> nuisance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have three other mail accounts, with Microsoft Exchange, Yahoo and iCloud;
>>>>>>> no problems there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same problem here and I’ve tried what you’ve done to no avail. I just press
>>>>>> Cancel when the pop up occurs and all seems well until the next time. I’ll
>>>>>> have a search to see if there’s a known issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/client-developer/legacy-protocols/how-to-authenticate-an-imap-pop-smtp-application-by-using-oauth
>>>>>
>>>>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/how-to-enable-oauth2-on-outlook-desktop-not-part/35ce9481-3492-4d94-9d0d-db1cf7a36d26
>>>>
>>>> This requires careful thought. There's a lot to read.
>>>>
>>>> It seems unnecessarily complex. But this is one of my main addresses, and it
>>>> would involve an awful lot of effort to discard it.
>>>>
>>>> I've got them in PDF, I'll read them in the hope that can understand what is
>>>> going on.
>>>>
>>>> Old John (feeling VERY old at the moment).
>>>
>>> I've followed the instructions on the link below and set it up to be an
>>> Exchange account, thus enabling "modern authentication". So far so good.
>>>
>>> <https://uk.godaddy.com/help/enable-modern-authentication-for-ios-ipados-and-macos-devices-using-apple-mail-or-outlook-for-mac-41501>
>>
>> All these papers refer to Organisations and Admins. ButI am a private
>> individual as far as Outlook.com is concerned and know nothing about
>> Exchange365. (My Exchange account is different, it's provided by the Institute
>> of Physics. No problem there.)
>>
>> But I'll experiment and see what happens. Later, I've a busy mornng ahead.
>>
>> Old John.
>
> Well, 'tis done. Now to see what happens…
>
> Old John.

The problem has gone away, so evidently this was the solution.

Thanks, everybody! As usual, ucsm has come up trumps.

Old John.

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Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	John Hill
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Alan B
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Jörg Lorenz
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	John Hill
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Alan B
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Andy H
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Andy Hewitt
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Alan B
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Andy Hewitt
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Alan B
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Andy Hewitt
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Alan B
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Graham J
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Andy H
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Alan B
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	John Hill
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Alan B
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	Jörg Lorenz
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	John Hill
Re: Mail playing up with my Outlook address.	John Hill