What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months ago. I'm
not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I used to use
MT-Newswatcher.)

So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles. All but
about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305 rules to avoid
these?

I *never* had this spam problem in MTNW ... although I readily admit that I
set rules decades ago that would eliminate most of them (e.g. 'kil if an
article has come from this domain").

I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or rather
better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.

I suppose I'm just a Dumb User, after all these years! :-)

John

On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months ago. I'm
> not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I used to use
> MT-Newswatcher.)
>
> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles. All but
> about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305 rules to avoid
> these?
>
> I *never* had this spam problem in MTNW ... although I readily admit that I
> set rules decades ago that would eliminate most of them (e.g. 'kil if an
> article has come from this domain").
>
> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or rather
> better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.
>
> I suppose I'm just a Dumb User, after all these years! :-)

Most of the spam I see comes via Google Groups so I have a rule that if
Message ID contains googlegroups, Perform the following action: Delete. You can
always create exceptions to this rule for those few genuine posters who use GG.
I can send you a screen shot of my rules if you wish.

--
Cheers, Alan

On 02 Feb 2024 at 20:54:52 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months ago. I'm
>> not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I used to use
>> MT-Newswatcher.)

I agree MT-NW was easier to use.

>> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles. All but
>> about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305 rules to avoid
>> these?

I take it you have some rules, yes? I mean, so you know how to create them?

>> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or rather
>> better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.

Unlikely you can get rid of it at a stroke. You'll just have to add/modify
rules as a particular type of spam gets through. Remember: spam is in the eye
of the beholder, so you have to do it, really.

--
Tim

TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:

> On 02 Feb 2024 at 20:54:52 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months
> >> ago. I'm not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I
> >> used to use MT-Newswatcher.)
>
> I agree MT-NW was easier to use.
>
> >> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles.
> >> All but about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305
> >> rules to avoid these?
>
> I take it you have some rules, yes? I mean, so you know how to create them?
>
> >> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or
> >> rather better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.
>
> Unlikely you can get rid of it at a stroke. You'll just have to add/modify
> rules as a particular type of spam gets through. Remember: spam is in the
> eye of the beholder, so you have to do it, really.
>

This sounds like the huge ongoing wave of googlespam. Several news
services e.g. Eternal September are collaborating to cancel this spam
from their own servers using NoCeM; I see hardly any of it.

This is the reason for Google's decision to close the Google Groups <->
Usenet gateway at the end of this month, the problem should then go away
(until the spammers find another open server to abuse).

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon says:
The first duty of government is defence of the realm.

On 2 Feb 2024 at 20:46:13 GMT, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:

> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months ago. I'm
> not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I used to use
> MT-Newswatcher.)
>
> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles. All but
> about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305 rules to avoid
> these?
>
> I *never* had this spam problem in MTNW ... although I readily admit that I
> set rules decades ago that would eliminate most of them (e.g. 'kil if an
> article has come from this domain").
>
> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or rather
> better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.
>
> I suppose I'm just a Dumb User, after all these years! :-)

Hello John

May I suggest you try a different newsserver?

I've been using this one and it works well:- https://individual.net/

Just 10 Euros per year - a small price to pay!

--
Kind regards,
David

On 2 Feb 2024 at 21:59:09 GMT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:

> TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 02 Feb 2024 at 20:54:52 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months
>>>> ago. I'm not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I
>>>> used to use MT-Newswatcher.)
>>
>> I agree MT-NW was easier to use.
>>
>>>> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles.
>>>> All but about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305
>>>> rules to avoid these?
>>
>> I take it you have some rules, yes? I mean, so you know how to create them?
>>
>>>> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or
>>>> rather better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.
>>
>> Unlikely you can get rid of it at a stroke. You'll just have to add/modify
>> rules as a particular type of spam gets through. Remember: spam is in the
>> eye of the beholder, so you have to do it, really.
>>
>
> This sounds like the huge ongoing wave of googlespam. Several news
> services e.g. Eternal September are collaborating to cancel this spam
> from their own servers using NoCeM; I see hardly any of it.
>
> This is the reason for Google's decision to close the Google Groups <->
> Usenet gateway at the end of this month, the problem should then go away
> (until the spammers find another open server to abuse).

Xref: uni-berlin.de uk.comp.sys.mac:762292

=

I suggest caution when following advice from this poster!

--
David

On 2024-02-02 21:59:09 +0000, Sn!pe said:

> TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 02 Feb 2024 at 20:54:52 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months
>>>> ago. I'm not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I
>>>> used to use MT-Newswatcher.)
>>
>> I agree MT-NW was easier to use.
>>
>>>> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles.
>>>> All but about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305
>>>> rules to avoid these?
>>
>> I take it you have some rules, yes? I mean, so you know how to create them?
>>
>>>> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or
>>>> rather better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.
>>
>> Unlikely you can get rid of it at a stroke. You'll just have to add/modify
>> rules as a particular type of spam gets through. Remember: spam is in the
>> eye of the beholder, so you have to do it, really.
>>
>
> This sounds like the huge ongoing wave of googlespam. Several news
> services e.g. Eternal September are collaborating to cancel this spam
> from their own servers using NoCeM; I see hardly any of it.
>
> This is the reason for Google's decision to close the Google Groups <->
> Usenet gateway at the end of this month, the problem should then go away
> (until the spammers find another open server to abuse).

I assumed it was spammers having one last crack at flooding usenet
before GG stops allowing posting. I've seen 6/8 spam posts come through
most days over the last month or so (to compare, I never saw more than
one or two a week before, if that).
--
Cheers ... Mark

Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> >> Unlikely you can get rid of it at a stroke. You'll just have to
> >> add/modify rules as a particular type of spam gets through. Remember:
> >> spam is in the eye of the beholder, so you have to do it, really.
> >>
> >
> > This sounds like the huge ongoing wave of googlespam. Several news
> > services e.g. Eternal September are collaborating to cancel this spam
> > from their own servers using NoCeM; I see hardly any of it.
> >
> > This is the reason for Google's decision to close the Google Groups <->
> > Usenet gateway at the end of this month, the problem should then go away
> > (until the spammers find another open server to abuse).
> >
>
> I assumed it was spammers having one last crack at flooding usenet
> before GG stops allowing posting. I've seen 6/8 spam posts come through
> most days over the last month or so (to compare, I never saw more than
> one or two a week before, if that).
>

I see that like me you're on Eternal-September. Ray Banana, the E-S
admin and others are working very hard behind the scenes to keep their
servers clean using NoCeM so their users don't have to bother; it's a
big effort. The commercial services aren't bothering to sanitise their
feeds.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon says:
The first duty of government is defence of the realm.

Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>> Unlikely you can get rid of it at a stroke. You'll just have to
>>>> add/modify rules as a particular type of spam gets through. Remember:
>>>> spam is in the eye of the beholder, so you have to do it, really.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This sounds like the huge ongoing wave of googlespam. Several news
>>> services e.g. Eternal September are collaborating to cancel this spam
>>> from their own servers using NoCeM; I see hardly any of it.
>>>
>>> This is the reason for Google's decision to close the Google Groups <->
>>> Usenet gateway at the end of this month, the problem should then go away
>>> (until the spammers find another open server to abuse).
>>>
>>
>> I assumed it was spammers having one last crack at flooding usenet
>> before GG stops allowing posting. I've seen 6/8 spam posts come through
>> most days over the last month or so (to compare, I never saw more than
>> one or two a week before, if that).
>>
>
> I see that like me you're on Eternal-September. Ray Banana, the E-S
> admin and others are working very hard behind the scenes to keep their
> servers clean using NoCeM so their users don't have to bother; it's a
> big effort. The commercial services aren't bothering to sanitise their
> feeds.

I use mainly E-S and Ray’s work has cut down the GG crap no end making my
filter almost redundant! Other providers have also taken counter measures.

Sadly I still need rules to combat certain trolls and excessive cross
posting :(

--
Cheers, Alan

Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
> TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 02 Feb 2024 at 20:54:52 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months
>>>> ago. I'm not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I
>>>> used to use MT-Newswatcher.)
>>
>> I agree MT-NW was easier to use.

It can still be run on recent macOS versions via SheepShaver or other
Classic Mac emulators such as the prebuilt UTM offering. I occasionally run
MT-NW via SS on my M1 Mac just for fun :)

--
Cheers, Alan

On 02/02/2024 20:46, Another John wrote:
> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months ago. I'm
> not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I used to use
> MT-Newswatcher.)
>
> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles. All but
> about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305 rules to avoid
> these?
>
> I *never* had this spam problem in MTNW ... although I readily admit that I
> set rules decades ago that would eliminate most of them (e.g. 'kil if an
> article has come from this domain").
>
> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or rather
> better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.
>
> I suppose I'm just a Dumb User, after all these years! :-)
>
> John
>
As a PlusNet user I have Usenet via their servers which allows through the
occasional spam post.
I also have the Eternal September server for Usenet which only very
occasionally [less than once a month] allows through Spam postings.

The easy way to avoid spam is to sign up to a better server.

On 3 Feb 2024 at 08:05:43 GMT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 02/02/2024 20:46, Another John wrote:
>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months ago. I'm
>> not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I used to use
>> MT-Newswatcher.)
>>
>> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles. All but
>> about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305 rules to avoid
>> these?
>>
>> I *never* had this spam problem in MTNW ... although I readily admit that I
>> set rules decades ago that would eliminate most of them (e.g. 'kil if an
>> article has come from this domain").
>>
>> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or rather
>> better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.
>>
>> I suppose I'm just a Dumb User, after all these years! :-)
>>
>> John
>>
> As a PlusNet user I have Usenet via their servers which allows through the
> occasional spam post.
> I also have the Eternal September server for Usenet which only very
> occasionally [less than once a month] allows through Spam postings.
>
> The easy way to avoid spam is to sign up to a better server.

Agree!! Ray does an excellent job of keeping Eternal September clean. He, and
other responsible server managers in collaboration, must spend HOURS keeping
their filters up to scratch.

My thanks to them.

I am also a Usenapp user, and I have a filter that marks GoogleGroups postings
red. Unusually, there was one this morning - but it was not spam, it was a
perfectly sensible posing from a real user.

And how he does if for free - that, I have no idea.

Old John.
--
An infinitely complex system can fail in an infinite number of ways.

On 3 Feb 2024 at 08:57:28 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 3 Feb 2024 at 08:05:43 GMT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 02/02/2024 20:46, Another John wrote:
>>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months ago. I'm
>>> not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I used to use
>>> MT-Newswatcher.)
>>>
>>> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles. All but
>>> about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305 rules to avoid
>>> these?
>>>
>>> I *never* had this spam problem in MTNW ... although I readily admit that I
>>> set rules decades ago that would eliminate most of them (e.g. 'kil if an
>>> article has come from this domain").
>>>
>>> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or rather
>>> better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.
>>>
>>> I suppose I'm just a Dumb User, after all these years! :-)
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>> As a PlusNet user I have Usenet via their servers which allows through the
>> occasional spam post.
>> I also have the Eternal September server for Usenet which only very
>> occasionally [less than once a month] allows through Spam postings.
>>
>> The easy way to avoid spam is to sign up to a better server.
>
> Agree!! Ray does an excellent job of keeping Eternal September clean. He, and
> other responsible server managers in collaboration, must spend HOURS keeping
> their filters up to scratch.
>
> My thanks to them.
>
> I am also a Usenapp user, and I have a filter that marks GoogleGroups postings
> red. Unusually, there was one this morning - but it was not spam, it was a
> perfectly sensible posing from a real user.

What was the Message ID of that GG post, please, John?

> And how he does if for free - that, I have no idea.

Me neither! ;-)

John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Agree!! Ray does an excellent job of keeping Eternal September clean. He, and
> other responsible server managers in collaboration, must spend HOURS keeping
> their filters up to scratch.
>
> My thanks to them.
>
> I am also a Usenapp user, and I have a filter that marks GoogleGroups postings
> red. Unusually, there was one this morning - but it was not spam, it was a
> perfectly sensible posing from a real user.
>
> And how he does if for free - that, I have no idea.

You can make donations via PayPal - see the lhs of the server’s webpage.

--
Cheers, Alan

On 2 Feb 2024 at 20:46:13 GMT, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:

> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months ago. I'm
> not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I used to use
> MT-Newswatcher.)
>
> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles. All but
> about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305 rules to avoid
> these?
>
> I *never* had this spam problem in MTNW ... although I readily admit that I
> set rules decades ago that would eliminate most of them (e.g. 'kil if an
> article has come from this domain").
>
> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or rather
> better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.
>
> I suppose I'm just a Dumb User, after all these years! :-)
>
> John

I highlight them all, click to unhighlight the ones I want and choose 'kill
thread'
--
"What happens if a big asteroid hits Earth? Judging from realistic
simulations involving a sledgehammer and a common laboratory frog,
we can assume it will be pretty bad." - Dave Barry

On 2024-02-03 06:07:34 +0000, Alan B said:

> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>> Unlikely you can get rid of it at a stroke. You'll just have to
>>>>> add/modify rules as a particular type of spam gets through. Remember:
>>>>> spam is in the eye of the beholder, so you have to do it, really.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This sounds like the huge ongoing wave of googlespam. Several news
>>>> services e.g. Eternal September are collaborating to cancel this spam
>>>> from their own servers using NoCeM; I see hardly any of it.
>>>>
>>>> This is the reason for Google's decision to close the Google Groups <->
>>>> Usenet gateway at the end of this month, the problem should then go away
>>>> (until the spammers find another open server to abuse).
>>>>
>>>
>>> I assumed it was spammers having one last crack at flooding usenet
>>> before GG stops allowing posting. I've seen 6/8 spam posts come through
>>> most days over the last month or so (to compare, I never saw more than
>>> one or two a week before, if that).
>>>
>>
>> I see that like me you're on Eternal-September. Ray Banana, the E-S
>> admin and others are working very hard behind the scenes to keep their
>> servers clean using NoCeM so their users don't have to bother; it's a
>> big effort. The commercial services aren't bothering to sanitise their
>> feeds.
>
> I use mainly E-S and Ray’s work has cut down the GG crap no end making my
> filter almost redundant! Other providers have also taken counter measures.
>
> Sadly I still need rules to combat certain trolls and excessive cross
> posting :(

Yes, it seems to have stopped now. Haven't seen any for a couple of
days or more.
--
Cheers ... Mark

On 2024-02-03 06:38:15 +0000, Alan B said:

> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02 Feb 2024 at 20:54:52 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months
>>>>> ago. I'm not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I
>>>>> used to use MT-Newswatcher.)
>>>
>>> I agree MT-NW was easier to use.
>
> It can still be run on recent macOS versions via SheepShaver or other
> Classic Mac emulators such as the prebuilt UTM offering. I occasionally run
> MT-NW via SS on my M1 Mac just for fun :)

I wonder if you could do that with Pineapple?
<https://platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/>
--
Cheers ... Mark

On 2024-02-03, Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2024-02-03 06:38:15 +0000, Alan B said:
>
>> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02 Feb 2024 at 20:54:52 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months
>>>>>> ago. I'm not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I
>>>>>> used to use MT-Newswatcher.)
>>>>
>>>> I agree MT-NW was easier to use.
>>
>> It can still be run on recent macOS versions via SheepShaver or other
>> Classic Mac emulators such as the prebuilt UTM offering. I occasionally run
>> MT-NW via SS on my M1 Mac just for fun :)
>
> I wonder if you could do that with Pineapple?
><https://platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/>

No joy with OS 9 on SheepShaver, so wll try Mojave.

--
Cheers, Alan

Alan B wrote:
> On 2024-02-03, Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-02-03 06:38:15 +0000, Alan B said:
>>
>>> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 02 Feb 2024 at 20:54:52 GMT, "Alan B"
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months
>>>>>>> ago. I'm not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I
>>>>>>> used to use MT-Newswatcher.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree MT-NW was easier to use.
>>>
>>> It can still be run on recent macOS versions via SheepShaver or other
>>> Classic Mac emulators such as the prebuilt UTM offering. I occasionally
run
>>> MT-NW via SS on my M1 Mac just for fun :)
>>
>> I wonder if you could do that with Pineapple?
>><https://platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/>
>
> No joy with OS 9 on SheepShaver, so wll try Mojave.

Posting this message in Mojave. Will it or won't it work?

--
Cheers, Alan

On 2024-02-03, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Alan B wrote:
>> On 2024-02-03, Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-03 06:38:15 +0000, Alan B said:
>>>
>>>> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02 Feb 2024 at 20:54:52 GMT, "Alan B"
><alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months
>>>>>>>> ago. I'm not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I
>>>>>>>> used to use MT-Newswatcher.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree MT-NW was easier to use.
>>>>
>>>> It can still be run on recent macOS versions via SheepShaver or other
>>>> Classic Mac emulators such as the prebuilt UTM offering. I occasionally
> run
>>>> MT-NW via SS on my M1 Mac just for fun :)
>>>
>>> I wonder if you could do that with Pineapple?
>>><https://platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/>
>>
>> No joy with OS 9 on SheepShaver, so wll try Mojave.
>
> Posting this message in Mojave. Will it or won't it work?

Well, yes, but it thinks I'm running Mavericks! Apologies to the OP for this
distraction :)

--
Cheers, Alan

On 03 Feb 2024 at 12:26:19 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Alan B wrote:
>> On 2024-02-03, Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-03 06:38:15 +0000, Alan B said:
>>>
>>>> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02 Feb 2024 at 20:54:52 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-02-02, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months
>>>>>>>> ago. I'm not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I
>>>>>>>> used to use MT-Newswatcher.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree MT-NW was easier to use.
>>>>
>>>> It can still be run on recent macOS versions via SheepShaver or other
>>>> Classic Mac emulators such as the prebuilt UTM offering. I occasionally run
>>>> MT-NW via SS on my M1 Mac just for fun :)
>>>
>>> I wonder if you could do that with Pineapple?
>>> <https://platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/>
>>
>> No joy with OS 9 on SheepShaver, so wll try Mojave.
>
> Posting this message in Mojave. Will it or won't it work?

No sign of it here.

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Tim

On 3 Feb 2024 at 10:22:59 GMT, Sara Merriman wrote:

> On 2 Feb 2024 at 20:46:13 GMT, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What haven't I twigged yet? I moved to Usenapp a couple of months ago. I'm
>> not using it much because I find the interface impossible! (I used to use
>> MT-Newswatcher.)
>>
>> So for example today I find that uk.comp.sys.mac has 1,325 articles. All but
>> about 20 (I guess) are spam posts! Am I supposed to set 1,305 rules to avoid
>> these?
>>
>> I *never* had this spam problem in MTNW ... although I readily admit that I
>> set rules decades ago that would eliminate most of them (e.g. 'kil if an
>> article has come from this domain").
>>
>> I can't see anything in Usenapp that would assist me to gradually (or rather
>> better: at a stroke) kill all this dross.
>>
>> I suppose I'm just a Dumb User, after all these years! :-)
>>
>> John
>
> I highlight them all, click to unhighlight the ones I want and choose 'kill
> thread'

+1 - I find it quite simple to do, although it is a little tedious starting
out.
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Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

On 3 Feb 2024 at 13:47:36 GMT, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote: (in reply to
Sarah M)

>> I highlight them all, click to unhighlight the ones I want and choose 'kill
>> thread'
>
> +1 - I find it quite simple to do, although it is a little tedious starting
> out.

OP here:

Yebbut: 1300? I'd have to look at Usenet every day to stand a chance of
keeping on top, and (a) I haven't really the time and (b) I keep forgetting!

As to Alan B's apology "Well, yes, but it thinks I'm running Mavericks!
Apologies to the OP for this
distraction :)" --- not at all! Digressions (most of them interesting, in
compsysmac) are the very stuff of Usenet :-D

John

PS I'm going to try the Googlegroups Rule (first suggested by the very Alan B
above!). I actually tried looking for the headers, but couldn't find the way,
in Usenapp -- I'll try again because now I know they can be found! :-D

On Feb 3, 2024 at 1:06:00 PM EST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:

> PS I'm going to try the Googlegroups Rule (first suggested by the very Alan B
> above!). I actually tried looking for the headers, but couldn't find the way,
> in Usenapp -- I'll try again because now I know they can be found! :-D

Its the H to the right of the Reply arrow. At the top of the window section
you are reading this in.

On 03/02/2024 08:05, David Kennedy wrote:
> The easy way to avoid spam is to sign up to a better server.

This.

news.individual.net (aka the German server) zaps all of them.

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Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England