It fixes the text overlapping issue. Other annoying bugs remain - see
comments in the linked article below.

<https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/08/apple-releases-macos-sonoma-14-3-1/>

--
Cheers, Alan

On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 19:27:46 -0000 (UTC), Alan B
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>It fixes the text overlapping issue. Other annoying bugs remain - see
>comments in the linked article below.
>
><https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/08/apple-releases-macos-sonoma-14-3-1/>

I just acquired a free M1 MacMini which was running "Big Sur". I
updated it to "Sonoma", 10.14.3 A WEEK AGO OR SO. So far, no issues of
any kind, save that some other softwares whined about needing to be
updated, which I would have expected given that the Mini hadn't been
used since Plague Year.

She's now running several BOINC's and GIMPS and seems to be happy.

My MBP, Intel-chippy, which I previously updated from "Ventura" to
10.14.2.1 has now been lifted up to 10.14.3 without any problems so
far.

Is 10.14.3.1 worth it or should we wait a while for more bug-fixes?

I'm inclined to wait but the "Software updates are available" thingy
irks me.

J.

On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 20:28:18 +0000, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

>On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 19:27:46 -0000 (UTC), Alan B
><alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>It fixes the text overlapping issue. Other annoying bugs remain - see
>>comments in the linked article below.
>>
>><https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/08/apple-releases-macos-sonoma-14-3-1/>
>
> I just acquired a free M1 MacMini which was running "Big Sur". I
>updated it to "Sonoma", 10.14.3 A WEEK AGO OR SO. So far, no issues of

OOOOOPSie, sorry for the Caps Lock. I didn't notice it while pro
freeding.

>any kind, save that some other softwares whined about needing to be
>updated, which I would have expected given that the Mini hadn't been
>used since Plague Year.
>
> She's now running several BOINC's and GIMPS and seems to be happy.
>
> My MBP, Intel-chippy, which I previously updated from "Ventura" to
>10.14.2.1 has now been lifted up to 10.14.3 without any problems so
>far.

Well, one issue but I think it's hardware-related. The USB-C
connectors slurp data from small external hard drives through
USB-A-to-C connectors but they don't even see larger ones, not even my
T"Time Machine" backup drive.
I'm looking for a workaround for that one but it's not looking
hopeful.

The MBP did like a USB-C-to-Ethernet wire with which I migrated my
userid, data and settings to the gifted Mini. That was neat. It took a
while but it was ever so easy.

I am still rather hurt that Apple didn't see fit to include just
*one* legacy USB-A port into the MBP but there's not a lot I can do
about this.

>
> Is 10.14.3.1 worth it or should we wait a while for more bug-fixes?
>
> I'm inclined to wait but the "Software updates are available" thingy
>irks me.
>
> J.

I'm *always* inclined to wait, usually until you guys report back
with all of the nasties in an update and how to fix them. I'm too old,
tired and clueless on Macs to search for them myself.

Thank you.

J.

John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 19:27:46 -0000 (UTC), Alan B
> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It fixes the text overlapping issue. Other annoying bugs remain - see
>> comments in the linked article below.
>>
>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/08/apple-releases-macos-sonoma-14-3-1/>
>
> I just acquired a free M1 MacMini which was running "Big Sur". I
> updated it to "Sonoma", 10.14.3 A WEEK AGO OR SO. So far, no issues of
> any kind, save that some other softwares whined about needing to be
> updated, which I would have expected given that the Mini hadn't been
> used since Plague Year.
>
> She's now running several BOINC's and GIMPS and seems to be happy.
>
> My MBP, Intel-chippy, which I previously updated from "Ventura" to
> 10.14.2.1 has now been lifted up to 10.14.3 without any problems so
> far.
>
> Is 10.14.3.1 worth it or should we wait a while for more bug-fixes?
>
> I'm inclined to wait but the "Software updates are available" thingy

I don’t appear to have been affected by the text overlapping issue. But
I’ve not yet read the complete set of release notes - for instance there’s
probably some security fixes too. It’s also worth reading comments from
people who have done the update. Whatever I’ll probably update my M1 Mac
tomorrow!

--
Cheers, Alan

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 19:27:46 -0000 (UTC), Alan B
>> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> It fixes the text overlapping issue. Other annoying bugs remain - see
>>> comments in the linked article below.
>>>
>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/08/apple-releases-macos-sonoma-14-3-1/>
>>
>> I just acquired a free M1 MacMini which was running "Big Sur". I
>> updated it to "Sonoma", 10.14.3 A WEEK AGO OR SO. So far, no issues of
>> any kind, save that some other softwares whined about needing to be
>> updated, which I would have expected given that the Mini hadn't been
>> used since Plague Year.
>>
>> She's now running several BOINC's and GIMPS and seems to be happy.
>>
>> My MBP, Intel-chippy, which I previously updated from "Ventura" to
>> 10.14.2.1 has now been lifted up to 10.14.3 without any problems so
>> far.
>>
>> Is 10.14.3.1 worth it or should we wait a while for more bug-fixes?
>>
>> I'm inclined to wait but the "Software updates are available" thingy
>
> I don’t appear to have been affected by the text overlapping issue. But
> I’ve not yet read the complete set of release notes - for instance there’s
> probably some security fixes too. It’s also worth reading comments from
> people who have done the update. Whatever I’ll probably update my M1 Mac
> tomorrow!

No security updates it seems.

<https://eclecticlight.co/2024/02/08/apple-has-released-an-update-for-sonoma-to-version-14-3-1/>

--
Cheers, Alan

On 8 Feb 2024 at 20:40:02 GMT, "John" <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 20:28:18 +0000, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 19:27:46 -0000 (UTC), Alan B
>> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> It fixes the text overlapping issue. Other annoying bugs remain - see
>>> comments in the linked article below.
>>>
>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/08/apple-releases-macos-sonoma-14-3-1/>
>>
>> I just acquired a free M1 MacMini which was running "Big Sur". I
>> updated it to "Sonoma", 10.14.3 A WEEK AGO OR SO. So far, no issues of
>
> OOOOOPSie, sorry for the Caps Lock. I didn't notice it while pro
> freeding.
>
>> any kind, save that some other softwares whined about needing to be
>> updated, which I would have expected given that the Mini hadn't been
>> used since Plague Year.
>>
>> She's now running several BOINC's and GIMPS and seems to be happy.
>>
>> My MBP, Intel-chippy, which I previously updated from "Ventura" to
>> 10.14.2.1 has now been lifted up to 10.14.3 without any problems so
>> far.
>
> Well, one issue but I think it's hardware-related. The USB-C
> connectors slurp data from small external hard drives through
> USB-A-to-C connectors but they don't even see larger ones, not even my
> T"Time Machine" backup drive.
>
> I'm looking for a workaround for that one but it's not looking
> hopeful.
>
> The MBP did like a USB-C-to-Ethernet wire with which I migrated my
> userid, data and settings to the gifted Mini. That was neat. It took a
> while but it was ever so easy.
>
> I am still rather hurt that Apple didn't see fit to include just
> *one* legacy USB-A port into the MBP but there's not a lot I can do
> about this.
>
>>
>> Is 10.14.3.1 worth it or should we wait a while for more bug-fixes?
>>
>> I'm inclined to wait but the "Software updates are available" thingy
>> irks me.
>>
>> J.
>
> I'm *always* inclined to wait, usually until you guys report back
> with all of the nasties in an update and how to fix them. I'm too old,
> tired and clueless on Macs to search for them myself.

Well I've gone for it now including the corresponding iOS and iPadOS updates.
Nothing seems to have gone wrong ... gone wrong ... gone wrong ... gone wrong
..... ;)

--
Cheers, Alan

John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 20:28:18 +0000, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

>> Is 10.14.3.1 worth it or should we wait a while for more bug-fixes?
>>
>> I'm inclined to wait but the "Software updates are available" thingy
>> irks me.
>>
>> J.
>
> I'm *always* inclined to wait, usually until you guys report back
> with all of the nasties in an update and how to fix them. I'm too old,
> tired and clueless on Macs to search for them myself.

x.x.1 releases are usually fine. They're minimal bug/security fixes so less
likely to break anything or introduce anything annoying.

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:22:06 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:

>John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 20:28:18 +0000, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>
>>> Is 10.14.3.1 worth it or should we wait a while for more bug-fixes?
>>>
>>> I'm inclined to wait but the "Software updates are available" thingy
>>> irks me.
>>>
>>> J.
>>
>> I'm *always* inclined to wait, usually until you guys report back
>> with all of the nasties in an update and how to fix them. I'm too old,
>> tired and clueless on Macs to search for them myself.
>
>x.x.1 releases are usually fine. They're minimal bug/security fixes so less
>likely to break anything or introduce anything annoying.

Cool, thank you and noted for future reference. :)

J.

John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:22:06 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> >John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 20:28:18 +0000, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> >
> >>> Is 10.14.3.1 worth it or should we wait a while for more bug-fixes?
> >>>
> >>> I'm inclined to wait but the "Software updates are available" thingy
> >>> irks me.
> >>>
> >>> J.
> >>
> >> I'm *always* inclined to wait, usually until you guys report back
> >> with all of the nasties in an update and how to fix them. I'm too old,
> >> tired and clueless on Macs to search for them myself.
> >
> >x.x.1 releases are usually fine. They're minimal bug/security fixes so less
> >likely to break anything or introduce anything annoying.

> Cool, thank you and noted for future reference. :)

Do make back ups often though just in case. ;)
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 07:38:27 +0000, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:22:06 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 20:28:18 +0000, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>>
>>>> Is 10.14.3.1 worth it or should we wait a while for more bug-fixes?
>>>>
>>>> I'm inclined to wait but the "Software updates are available" thingy
>>>> irks me.
>>>>
>>>> J.
>>>
>>> I'm *always* inclined to wait, usually until you guys report back
>>> with all of the nasties in an update and how to fix them. I'm too old,
>>> tired and clueless on Macs to search for them myself.
>>
>>x.x.1 releases are usually fine. They're minimal bug/security fixes so less
>>likely to break anything or introduce anything annoying.
>
> Cool, thank you and noted for future reference. :)
>
> J.

Okay, so I got tired of the hint that my MBP wanted fed and I updated
to 14.3.1 a couple of days ago.

It took a while to download, it took a while ... oh, you've heard
that song before? Well, it did.

It did, however, update perfectly cleanly, so far as I know. The last
reboot even opened all of the windows I had been using.

It's been a couple of days. So far, no issues.

I recommend 3.1, full of vitamins and minerals and she has that magic
ingredient, Parasliceum Core X57 which cleans greener than any other
polytronic system on the market today!

Or something like this.

J.

John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 07:38:27 +0000, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:22:06 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 20:28:18 +0000, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Is 10.14.3.1 worth it or should we wait a while for more bug-fixes?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm inclined to wait but the "Software updates are available" thingy
>>>>> irks me.
>>>>>
>>>>> J.
>>>>
>>>> I'm *always* inclined to wait, usually until you guys report back
>>>> with all of the nasties in an update and how to fix them. I'm too old,
>>>> tired and clueless on Macs to search for them myself.
>>>
>>> x.x.1 releases are usually fine. They're minimal bug/security fixes so less
>>> likely to break anything or introduce anything annoying.
>>
>> Cool, thank you and noted for future reference. :)
>>
>> J.
>
> Okay, so I got tired of the hint that my MBP wanted fed and I updated
> to 14.3.1 a couple of days ago.
>
> It took a while to download, it took a while ... oh, you've heard
> that song before? Well, it did.
>
> It did, however, update perfectly cleanly, so far as I know. The last
> reboot even opened all of the windows I had been using.
>
> It's been a couple of days. So far, no issues.
>
> I recommend 3.1, full of vitamins and minerals and she has that magic
> ingredient, Parasliceum Core X57 which cleans greener than any other
> polytronic system on the market today!

Still can’t get TM to talk properly to my WD NAS over WiFi :( I read
somewhere that Apple updated SMB for Sonoma. However using my minimal
Sonoma 14.4 beta system on a separate volume set, it seems to be working.
Maybe there’s hope of a solution on the horizon :)

--
Cheers, Alan

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

>> Okay, so I got tired of the hint that my MBP wanted fed and I updated
>> to 14.3.1 a couple of days ago.
>>
>> It took a while to download, it took a while ... oh, you've heard
>> that song before? Well, it did.
>>
>> It did, however, update perfectly cleanly, so far as I know. The last
>> reboot even opened all of the windows I had been using.
>>
>> It's been a couple of days. So far, no issues.
>>
>> I recommend 3.1, full of vitamins and minerals and she has that magic
>> ingredient, Parasliceum Core X57 which cleans greener than any other
>> polytronic system on the market today!
>
> Still can’t get TM to talk properly to my WD NAS over WiFi :( I read
> somewhere that Apple updated SMB for Sonoma. However using my minimal
> Sonoma 14.4 beta system on a separate volume set, it seems to be working.
> Maybe there’s hope of a solution on the horizon :)

I’ve just installed 14.3.1 onto my old MacBook Pro (2017 2x USB-C model,
non-Touch Bar).

It’s a first generation of non-supported machines for Sonoma, so I’ve used
OCLP to get it installed. That had worked very well for my old 2013 iMac,
but I had a bit of bother when I first tried it when Sonoma first came out.

That does of course work prove the old ‘never install a 1.0 release’ thing,
and OCLP was a bit behind at that time. It does usually take them a few
weeks to get updates done to cover the more obscure hardware (I always seem
to get one of those!).

It’s matured a bit better now, and after a few days, it’s not showing any
signs of causing problems anywhere. Everything is working well, even the
cheap generic Ethernet adapter I am using is just fine.

I am quite amazed, and delighted, at how well this does actually work.

--
Andy H

On 14 Feb 2024 at 18:13:40 GMT, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

> OCLP

Details here:- https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/09/opencore_legacy_patcher/

Are there any security risks involved?

--
David

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 18:13:40 -0000 (UTC), Andy H wrote:
>
> I’ve just installed 14.3.1 onto my old MacBook Pro (2017 2x USB-C model,
> non-Touch Bar).
>
> It’s a first generation of non-supported machines for Sonoma, so I’ve
> used OCLP to get it installed. That had worked very well for my old 2013
> iMac,
> but I had a bit of bother when I first tried it when Sonoma first came
> out.
>
> That does of course work prove the old ‘never install a 1.0 release’
> thing,
> and OCLP was a bit behind at that time. It does usually take them a few
> weeks to get updates done to cover the more obscure hardware (I always
> seem to get one of those!).
>
> It’s matured a bit better now, and after a few days, it’s not showing
> any signs of causing problems anywhere. Everything is working well, even
> the cheap generic Ethernet adapter I am using is just fine.
>
> I am quite amazed, and delighted, at how well this does actually work.

Yes I used OCLP on my Intel MBA to upgrade it to Ventura and it worked
quite successfully. I re-installed Monterey as I thought it might be
useful to have a Mac running an older version of macOS. I'm not sure that
it has proved that useful other than to prove that my WD NAS doesn't work
too well with Ventura and, in the case of my M1 Mac, is a complete mess
with Sonoma even when to the router via a LAN cable rather than WiFi.

--
Cheers, Alan

On 2024-02-14, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 18:13:40 -0000 (UTC), Andy H wrote:
>>
>> I’ve just installed 14.3.1 onto my old MacBook Pro (2017 2x USB-C model,
>> non-Touch Bar).
>>
>> It’s a first generation of non-supported machines for Sonoma, so I’ve
>> used OCLP to get it installed. That had worked very well for my old 2013
>> iMac,
>> but I had a bit of bother when I first tried it when Sonoma first came
>> out.
>>
>> That does of course work prove the old ‘never install a 1.0 release’
>> thing,
>> and OCLP was a bit behind at that time. It does usually take them a few
>> weeks to get updates done to cover the more obscure hardware (I always
>> seem to get one of those!).
>>
>> It’s matured a bit better now, and after a few days, it’s not showing
>> any signs of causing problems anywhere. Everything is working well, even
>> the cheap generic Ethernet adapter I am using is just fine.
>>
>> I am quite amazed, and delighted, at how well this does actually work.
>
> Yes I used OCLP on my Intel MBA to upgrade it to Ventura and it worked
> quite successfully. I re-installed Monterey as I thought it might be
> useful to have a Mac running an older version of macOS. I'm not sure that
> it has proved that useful other than to prove that my WD NAS doesn't work
> too well with Ventura and, in the case of my M1 Mac, is a complete mess
> with Sonoma even when to the router via a LAN cable rather than WiFi.

.... when connected to the router ...

--
Cheers, Alan