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by: David Kennedy - Wed, 14 Feb 2024 11:17 UTC

On 12/02/2024 16:46, Tyrone wrote:
> On Feb 12, 2024 at 3:06:20 AM EST, "David B." <bdb@nomail.afraid.org> AKA The
> Babbling Idiot wrote:
>
>> What you should know about firmware viruses:-
>>
>> By Leslie Meredith, Tech Matters - | Aug 8, 2015
>
> This is ancient news, dipshit.
>
> Not to mention that "firmware viruses" were very rare, very difficult to
> install and difficult to spread. So they were not very effective and basically
> were a waste of everyone's time.
>
> Just like you.
>
> But of course, since you have no fucking clue what firmware is, how it is used
> and what it does, you don't understand a word of this stupid article. You
> just copy/paste it, assuming it is somehow relevant.
>

+-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
| PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
| FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
| | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
| Thank you, | ( (_) )
| Management | /`-vvv-'\
+-------------------+ / \
| | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
| | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
@x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
\||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
\||/ | | | (______Y______)
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
==================================================================

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by: David B. - Fri, 16 Feb 2024 21:54 UTC

On 14 Feb 2024 at 11:17:27 GMT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
> | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
> | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
> | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
> | Thank you, | ( (_) )
> | Management | /`-vvv-'\
> +-------------------+ / \
> | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
> | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
> @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
> \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
> \||/ | | | (______Y______)
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> ==================================================================

Answer this, son!

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/f/172/mac-os/

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by: David B. - Fri, 16 Feb 2024 22:06 UTC

On 14 Feb 2024 at 11:17:27 GMT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
> | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
> | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
> | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
> | Thank you, | ( (_) )
> | Management | /`-vvv-'\
> +-------------------+ / \
> | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
> | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
> @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
> \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
> \||/ | | | (______Y______)
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> ==================================================================

Your illustration is totally distorted - here's how it SHOULD look:-

http://magelore.de

HTH

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From: watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk (John Hill)
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Subject: Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!
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by: John Hill - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 09:03 UTC

On 16 Feb 2024 at 22:06:33 GMT, "David B." <bdb@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 14 Feb 2024 at 11:17:27 GMT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
>> | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
>> | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
>> | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
>> | Thank you, | ( (_) )
>> | Management | /`-vvv-'\
>> +-------------------+ / \
>> | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
>> | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
>> @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
>> \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
>> \||/ | | | (______Y______)
>> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>> ==================================================================
>
>
> Your illustration is totally distorted - here's how it SHOULD look:-
>
> http://magelore.de
>
> HTH

Thank you for that! I had suspected something of the sort but TBH couldn't be
bothered to investigate.

Takes me back to the days when people produced elaborate and very effective
images on line printers and ImageWriters.

Old John.

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by: TimS - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 10:06 UTC

On 17 Feb 2024 at 09:03:00 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 16 Feb 2024 at 22:06:33 GMT, "David B." <bdb@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 14 Feb 2024 at 11:17:27 GMT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
>>> | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
>>> | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
>>> | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
>>> | Thank you, | ( (_) )
>>> | Management | /`-vvv-'\
>>> +-------------------+ / \
>>> | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
>>> | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
>>> @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
>>> \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
>>> \||/ | | | (______Y______)
>>> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>>> ==================================================================
>>
>>
>> Your illustration is totally distorted - here's how it SHOULD look:-

Looked perfectly OK here.

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Tim

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by: Alan B - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 10:20 UTC

On 17 Feb 2024 at 10:06:50 GMT, "TimS" <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:

> Looked perfectly OK here.

It may depend on the client and/or its settings? However DK's point is well
made.

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by: Jörg Lorenz - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 10:24 UTC

Am 17.02.24 um 11:06 schrieb TimS:
> On 17 Feb 2024 at 09:03:00 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 16 Feb 2024 at 22:06:33 GMT, "David B." <bdb@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 14 Feb 2024 at 11:17:27 GMT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
>>>> | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
>>>> | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
>>>> | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
>>>> | Thank you, | ( (_) )
>>>> | Management | /`-vvv-'\
>>>> +-------------------+ / \
>>>> | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
>>>> | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
>>>> @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
>>>> \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
>>>> \||/ | | | (______Y______)
>>>> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>>>> ==================================================================
>>>
>>>
>>> Your illustration is totally distorted - here's how it SHOULD look:-
>
> Looked perfectly OK here.

Same here!
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by: David B. - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 13:58 UTC

On 17 Feb 2024 at 09:03:00 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Thank you for responding, Old John! :-)

Could you please, for the benefit of others smirking here, provide a
screenshot showing the distorted image which you seem to have seen?

Thanks if you will.

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From: akwolffan@zoho.com (WolfFan)
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Subject: Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!
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by: WolfFan - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 16:27 UTC

On Feb 17, 2024, TimS wrote
(in article <l3bepqFb54U1@mid.individual.net>):

ASCII art was designed for use with monospaced fonts, like Courier, Courier
New, and (what I use) Lucidia Typewriter Std. (the ASCII art was fine at my
end, too.) Proportional fonts were not a thing except when using GUIs back
when usenet started, and not all GUIs. And usenet was plain text (no HTML
bullshit) using monospaced fonts, as Crom demands. If viewed using
proportional fonts, there will be problems. Not least being the displeasure
of Crom.

I suspect that Our David, being an idiot and an infidel, is not using a
monospaced font. In other words, his problem is entirely of his own creation.
As usual.

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by: WolfFan - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 16:46 UTC

On Feb 17, 2024, John Hill wrote
(in article <uqpso4$b8s5$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 16 Feb 2024 at 22:06:33 GMT, "David B."<bdb@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
> > On 14 Feb 2024 at 11:17:27 GMT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
> > > > PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
> > > > FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
> > > > > '=(\ 9 9 /)='
> > > > Thank you, | ( (_) )
> > > > Management | /`-vvv-'\
> > > +-------------------+ / \
> > > > > @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
> > > > > @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
> > > @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
> > > \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
> > > \||/ | | | (______Y______)
> > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> > > ==================================================================
> >
> >
> > Your illustration is totally distorted - here's how it SHOULD look:-
> >
> > http://magelore.de
> >
> > HTH
>
> Thank you for that! I had suspected something of the sort but TBH couldn't be
> bothered to investigate.
>
> Takes me back to the days when people produced elaborate and very effective
> images on line printers and ImageWriters.
>
> Old John.

You’re using Usenapp. Usenapp’s default is ’system font’. The system
font on most Macs is one of the Lucida fonts, usually Lucida Grande. This is
a proportional font; characters are different sizes horizontally, the
narrowest is ‘i’, the widest is ‘M’. ASCII art has problems with
proportinal fonts. It works much better with monospaced fonts, where all
characters are the same size horizontally, such as Courier, Courier New, and
Lucidia Typewriter Std. (I have the Hog set to use Lucida Typewriter Std.)

In Ye Olden Daze, text on screen was almost always in a monospaced font. In
Ye Ancient Daze, text from a teletype was always a monospaced font.

If you change the default (Preferences/Interface, look for the pull-down menu
showing ’system font’) then ASCII art can be viewed in all its proper
glory.

Don’t pay attention to Our David. He’s an idiot.

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From: watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk (John Hill)
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Subject: Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!
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by: John Hill - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 09:54 UTC

On 17 Feb 2024 at 13:58:34 GMT, "David B." <bdb@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 17 Feb 2024 at 09:03:00 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 16 Feb 2024 at 22:06:33 GMT, "David B." <bdb@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 14 Feb 2024 at 11:17:27 GMT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
>>>> | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
>>>> | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
>>>> | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
>>>> | Thank you, | ( (_) )
>>>> | Management | /`-vvv-'\
>>>> +-------------------+ / \
>>>> | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
>>>> | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
>>>> @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
>>>> \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
>>>> \||/ | | | (______Y______)
>>>> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>>>> ==================================================================
>>>
>>>
>>> Your illustration is totally distorted - here's how it SHOULD look:-
>>>
>>> http://magelore.de
>>>
>>> HTH
>>
>> Thank you for that! I had suspected something of the sort but TBH couldn't be
>> bothered to investigate.
>>
>> Takes me back to the days when people produced elaborate and very effective
>> images on line printers and ImageWriters.
>>
>> Old John.
>
> Thank you for responding, Old John! :-)
>
> Could you please, for the benefit of others smirking here, provide a
> screenshot showing the distorted image which you seem to have seen?
>
> Thanks if you will.

I don't see the point. Others have explained the phenomenon very clearly, so
anyone who *really* wants to see the proper version only has to copy it and
paste it into, say, TextEdit and view it in a monospaced fit.

Old John.
--
You're not an old dog until you can't learn new tricks.

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by: Theo - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 10:15 UTC

John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I don't see the point. Others have explained the phenomenon very clearly, so
> anyone who *really* wants to see the proper version only has to copy it and
> paste it into, say, TextEdit and view it in a monospaced fit.

The graphic was of 'do not feed the troll'. Which you are feeding by
repeatedly replying to his posts. He next tries to spin it by 'helpfully'
rendering the graphic that is directed at himself.

Please just put him in your killfile like everyone else has.

Theo

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by: David B. - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 11:46 UTC

On 18 Feb 2024 at 09:54:32 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 17 Feb 2024 at 13:58:34 GMT, "David B." <bdb@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 17 Feb 2024 at 09:03:00 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 16 Feb 2024 at 22:06:33 GMT, "David B." <bdb@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 14 Feb 2024 at 11:17:27 GMT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
>>>>> | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
>>>>> | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
>>>>> | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
>>>>> | Thank you, | ( (_) )
>>>>> | Management | /`-vvv-'\
>>>>> +-------------------+ / \
>>>>> | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
>>>>> | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
>>>>> @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
>>>>> \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
>>>>> \||/ | | | (______Y______)
>>>>> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>>>>> ==================================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your illustration is totally distorted - here's how it SHOULD look:-
>>>>
>>>> http://magelore.de
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Thank you for that! I had suspected something of the sort but TBH couldn't be
>>> bothered to investigate.
>>>
>>> Takes me back to the days when people produced elaborate and very effective
>>> images on line printers and ImageWriters.
>>>
>>> Old John.
>>
>> Thank you for responding, Old John! :-)
>>
>> Could you please, for the benefit of others smirking here, provide a
>> screenshot showing the distorted image which you seem to have seen?
>>
>> Thanks if you will.
>
> I don't see the point.

I agree ...... now!

> Others have explained the phenomenon very clearly, so
> anyone who *really* wants to see the proper version only has to copy it and
> paste it into, say, TextEdit and view it in a monospaced fit.

Now understood. :-)

> Old John.

Have a grand day!

--
David

FACILITY REJECTED 100044200000;

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Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	David Kennedy
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	David B.
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	David B.
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	John Hill
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	TimS
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	Alan B
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	Jörg Lorenz
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	WolfFan
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	David B.
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	John Hill
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	Theo
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	David B.
Re: What you don't need to know about firmware viruses!	WolfFan