Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
interested in this:

<https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>

If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.

--
Cheers, Alan

On 12. Mar 2024 at 12:00:00 CET, "Alan B"
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
> interested in this:
>
> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>
> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.

Cool, thanks for the link.

Orion: 15.5
Firfox: 18.4
Safari: 18.4

(on my M2 MacBookAir)

On 2024-03-12, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
> interested in this:
>
><https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>

Firefox 123.0.1 -> 15.4
DuckDuckGo 1.78.0 -> 16.1
Safari 17.4 -> 16.2

M1 MacBook Pro: 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS 14.4

--
Cheers, Alan

On 12 Mar 2024 at 11:00:00 GMT, Alan B wrote:

> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
> interested in this:
>
> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>
> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.

Safari - 6.65 (2020 Intel iMac, 3.3 i5, 500GB SSD, 32GB RAM).

Doesn't *feel* especially slow :-)

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

On 12.03.24 12:00, Alan B wrote:
> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
> interested in this:
>
> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>
> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.

Vivaldi 10.0 with ublock Origin and NoScript
Safari 12.2 Hush and DuckDuckGo Privacy extension; Apple Proxy
Firefox 8.95 uBlock Origin and NoScript

All running on a Mac i7-T2 on macOS 14.4.

Modellname: MacBook Pro
Modell-Identifizierung: MacBookPro15,1
Prozessortyp: 6-Core Intel Core i7
Prozessorgeschwindigkeit: 2.6 GHz
Anzahl der Prozessoren: 1
Gesamtanzahl der Kerne: 6
L2-Cache (pro Kern): 256 KB
L3-Cache: 9 MB
Hyper-Threading Technologie: Aktiviert
Speicher: 16 GB
Systemfirmwareversion: 2022.100.22.0.0 (iBridge: 21.16.4222.0.0,0)
OS-Ladeprogrammversion: 580~1678

To be honest: This is very specific and I do not trust the results at all.

--
"Ave Caesar! Morituri te salutant!"

On 2024-03-13, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 12 Mar 2024 at 11:00:00 GMT, Alan B wrote:
>
>> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
>> interested in this:
>>
>> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>>
>> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.
>
> Safari - 6.65 (2020 Intel iMac, 3.3 i5, 500GB SSD, 32GB RAM).
>
> Doesn't *feel* especially slow :-)

I must try it out on my Intel Mac later today! Out of interest I fired up
my Fedota 38 VM under Parallels on my M1 MBP and Firefox gave 5.43.

--
Cheers, Alan

On 2024-03-13, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 12.03.24 12:00, Alan B wrote:
>> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
>> interested in this:
>>
>> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>>
>> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.
>
> Vivaldi 10.0 with ublock Origin and NoScript
> Safari 12.2 Hush and DuckDuckGo Privacy extension; Apple Proxy
> Firefox 8.95 uBlock Origin and NoScript
>
> All running on a Mac i7-T2 on macOS 14.4.
>
> Modellname: MacBook Pro
> Modell-Identifizierung: MacBookPro15,1
> Prozessortyp: 6-Core Intel Core i7
> Prozessorgeschwindigkeit: 2.6 GHz
> Anzahl der Prozessoren: 1
> Gesamtanzahl der Kerne: 6
> L2-Cache (pro Kern): 256 KB
> L3-Cache: 9 MB
> Hyper-Threading Technologie: Aktiviert
> Speicher: 16 GB
> Systemfirmwareversion: 2022.100.22.0.0 (iBridge: 21.16.4222.0.0,0)
> OS-Ladeprogrammversion: 580~1678
>
> To be honest: This is very specific and I do not trust the results at all.

I don't think I will be changing which browsers I use ;-)

--
Cheers, Alan

On 12 Mar 2024 at 11:00:00 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
> interested in this:
>
> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>
> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.

Very interesting!

These results are all taken on my Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, 2017 iMac running
Ventura 13.6.4 (22G513).

I don't know if broadband speed affects the results, but my download speed it
typically 70Mbpa.

It's really important to make sure all the extensions are off - I had one one
Firefox that slowed it down to treacle.

Safari: 8.91 ±0.50
<div>Firefox: 8.69 ±0.19
Chrome: 8,26 ±0.27
<div>Edge: 8.24 ±0.33
</div><div>Arc: 8.00 ±0.36
</div><div></div>I don't know how accurate these are! It so happened that I
tested Edge three times, and got 8.24 ±0.33, 7.80 ±0.39 and 8.09 ±0.20.

But for all practical purposes there doesn't seem to me much to choose between
them on my setup.

Old John.

--
Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want
them to do.
Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you tell
them to do.
</div>

On 13.03.24 11:03, Alan B wrote:
> On 2024-03-13, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>> On 12.03.24 12:00, Alan B wrote:
>>> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
>>> interested in this:
>>>
>>> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>>>
>>> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.
>>
>> Vivaldi 10.0 with ublock Origin and NoScript
>> Safari 12.2 Hush and DuckDuckGo Privacy extension; Apple Proxy
>> Firefox 8.95 uBlock Origin and NoScript
>>
>> All running on a Mac i7-T2 on macOS 14.4.
>>
>> Modellname: MacBook Pro
>> Modell-Identifizierung: MacBookPro15,1
>> Prozessortyp: 6-Core Intel Core i7
>> Prozessorgeschwindigkeit: 2.6 GHz
>> Anzahl der Prozessoren: 1
>> Gesamtanzahl der Kerne: 6
>> L2-Cache (pro Kern): 256 KB
>> L3-Cache: 9 MB
>> Hyper-Threading Technologie: Aktiviert
>> Speicher: 16 GB
>> Systemfirmwareversion: 2022.100.22.0.0 (iBridge: 21.16.4222.0.0,0)
>> OS-Ladeprogrammversion: 580~1678
>>
>> To be honest: This is very specific and I do not trust the results at all.
>
> I don't think I will be changing which browsers I use ;-)

+1

--
"Ave Caesar! Morituri te salutant!"

On 13 Mar 2024 at 11:11:18 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> </div><div></div>

Can anyone explain this? It wasn't visible on my original text in Usenapp!

Old John.
--
Mony a mickle maks a muckle.

On 13 Mar 2024 at 11:17:51 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 13 Mar 2024 at 11:11:18 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> </div><div></div>
>
> Can anyone explain this? It wasn't visible on my original text in Usenapp!
>
> Old John.

Try again!

Safari: 8.91 ±0.50
Firefox: 8.69 ±0.19
Chrome: 8.26 ±0.27
Edge: 8.24 ±0.33
Arc: 8.00 ±0.36

Old John,

--
An infinitely complex system can fail in an infinite number of ways.

Am 12.03.24 um 12:00 schrieb Alan B:
> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
> interested in this:
>
> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>
> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.

Results on my Mac mini M2pro macOS 14.4:

Vivaldi 17.6 with ublock Origin and NoScript
Safari 28.2 Hush and DuckDuckGo Privacy extension; Apple Proxy
Firefox 22.3 uBlock Origin

To remind the results of my Intel MBP this morning:

Vivaldi 10.0 with ublock Origin and NoScript
Safari 12.2 Hush and DuckDuckGo Privacy extension; Apple Proxy
Firefox 8.95 uBlock Origin and NoScript

Modellname: Mac mini
Modell-Identifizierung: Mac14,12
Modellnummer: MNH73SM/A
Chip: Apple M2 Pro
Gesamtanzahl der Kerne: 10 (6 Leistung und 4 Effizienz)
Speicher: 16 GB
Systemfirmwareversion: 10151.101.3
OS-Ladeprogrammversion: 10151.101.3
Status der Aktivierungssperre: Aktiviert

As *meaningless* as on my Intel MBP. Both are operated on the same
network. My 5 year old Intel MBP has double the speed of my new
identically configured M2pro? *Forget it*!

Bullshit!

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

On 2024-03-13, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 2024-03-13, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 11:00:00 GMT, Alan B wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
>>> interested in this:
>>>
>>> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>>>
>>> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.
>>
>> Safari - 6.65 (2020 Intel iMac, 3.3 i5, 500GB SSD, 32GB RAM).
>>
>> Doesn't *feel* especially slow :-)
>
> I must try it out on my Intel Mac later today!

2017 1.8 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5 MBA 8/256GB running macOS 12.7.3 (Monterey)

Safari 17.3.1 -> 4.72

--
Cheers, Alan

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:27:15 -0000 (UTC), RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
wrote:

>On 12 Mar 2024 at 11:00:00 GMT, Alan B wrote:
>
>> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
>> interested in this:
>>
>> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>>
>> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.
>
>Safari - 6.65 (2020 Intel iMac, 3.3 i5, 500GB SSD, 32GB RAM).
>
>Doesn't *feel* especially slow :-)

Hmmmm....

Win-7, FF 72 (it won't update much past this): .... does not run so
I guess my score hovers around zero?

Same box, Opera 95 : 3.70 +- 0.11 So, I guess that's not
super-fast, either?

MacMini M1 with FF 123 : 7.86 +- 0.47 which is better but I thought
Apple silicon would do much better than that.

It could, of course be hampered by the BOINC sludge and Prime95 from
GIMPS running in the background. :)

J.

On 2024-03-13, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:27:15 -0000 (UTC), RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 12 Mar 2024 at 11:00:00 GMT, Alan B wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
>>> interested in this:
>>>
>>> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>>>
>>> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.
>>
>>Safari - 6.65 (2020 Intel iMac, 3.3 i5, 500GB SSD, 32GB RAM).
>>
>>Doesn't *feel* especially slow :-)
>
>
> Hmmmm....
>
> Win-7, FF 72 (it won't update much past this): .... does not run so
> I guess my score hovers around zero?
>
> Same box, Opera 95 : 3.70 +- 0.11 So, I guess that's not
> super-fast, either?
>
> MacMini M1 with FF 123 : 7.86 +- 0.47 which is better but I thought
> Apple silicon would do much better than that.
>
> It could, of course be hampered by the BOINC sludge and Prime95 from
> GIMPS running in the background. :)

Yes there must be lots of other factors to take into consideration, even having tried
to obey the site's instructions on running the test.

--
Cheers, Alan

On 13 Mar 2024 at 11:11:18 GMT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 12 Mar 2024 at 11:00:00 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
>> interested in this:
>>
>> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>>
>> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.
>
> Very interesting!
>
> These results are all taken on my Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, 2017 iMac running
> Ventura 13.6.4 (22G513).
>
> I don't know if broadband speed affects the results, but my download speed it
> typically 70Mbpa.
>
> It's really important to make sure all the extensions are off - I had one one
> Firefox that slowed it down to treacle.
>
> Safari: 8.91 ±0.50
> Firefox: 8.69 ±0.19
> Chrome: 8,26 ±0.27
> Edge: 8.24 ±0.33
> Arc: 8.00 ±0.36

> I don't know how accurate these are! It so happened that I
> tested Edge three times, and got 8.24 ±0.33, 7.80 ±0.39 and 8.09 ±0.20.
>
> But for all practical purposes there doesn't seem to me much to choose between
> them on my setup.

I thought I'd try the experiment on my iPad 11 Pro Max. I was very surprised
by the results:

Safari: 25.3 ± 1.2
Arc: 25.3 ±1.0
Chrome: 24.5 ±0.92
Firefox: 22.6 ±0.78

That is about four times faster than on my iMac.

I conclude from this that
(a) the iPad is very much faster than my ageing iMac,
(b) that broadband download speed does not have a strong influence on the iMac
results, since it is the same for all measurements and
(c) the results are an indicator of the computer speed rather than the browser
speed.

Has anyone done tests on a really modern iMac yet?

Old John.

--
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

On 13 Mar 2024 at 13:13:11 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2024-03-13, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:27:15 -0000 (UTC), RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 11:00:00 GMT, Alan B wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone want to test out their browser's responsiveness? Yes - then you may be
>>>> interested in this:
>>>>
>>>> <https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/>
>>>>
>>>> If I'm feeling bored I might try it out given I use several browsers.
>>>
>>> Safari - 6.65 (2020 Intel iMac, 3.3 i5, 500GB SSD, 32GB RAM).
>>>
>>> Doesn't *feel* especially slow :-)
>>
>>
>> Hmmmm....
>>
>> Win-7, FF 72 (it won't update much past this): .... does not run so
>> I guess my score hovers around zero?
>>
>> Same box, Opera 95 : 3.70 +- 0.11 So, I guess that's not
>> super-fast, either?
>>
>> MacMini M1 with FF 123 : 7.86 +- 0.47 which is better but I thought
>> Apple silicon would do much better than that.
>>
>> It could, of course be hampered by the BOINC sludge and Prime95 from
>> GIMPS running in the background. :)
>
> Yes there must be lots of other factors to take into consideration, even
> having tried
> to obey the site's instructions on running the test.

I forgot to mention that on the iMac I logged out of and back in to my account
with no windows to be reopened before I did the measurements.

Old John
--
An infinitely complex system can fail in an infinite number of ways.

On 2024-03-13, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I forgot to mention that on the iMac I logged out of and back in to my account
> with no windows to be reopened before I did the measurements.

I restarted my Macs before performing the tests.

--
Cheers, Alan