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Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?

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From: ithinkiam@gmail.com (Chris)
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Subject: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?
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by: Chris - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 08:15 UTC

Just noticed this and it didn't twig previously, but as 12.7 was simply
a bug/security update of not the most current version of macOS why
didn't Apple just increment the point version number of the last feature
release (12.6)? This would have been 12.6.10.

Looking back there hasn't been any macOS/OS X version higher that x.x.9
since Tiger 10.4.11. Is it possible that there's a versioning issue that
macOS only expects a single digit and so the security release was called
12.7 to avoid a bug.

I know it's a daft question, but it got me curious. Anyone know?

Re: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?

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From: applefanboy@btinternet.com (David Brooks)
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Subject: Re: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?
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by: David Brooks - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 08:32 UTC

On 02/04/2024 09:15, Chris wrote:
> Just noticed this and it didn't twig previously, but as 12.7 was simply
> a bug/security update of not the most current version of macOS why
> didn't Apple just increment the point version number of the last feature
> release (12.6)? This would have been 12.6.10.
>
> Looking back there hasn't been any macOS/OS X version higher that x.x.9
> since Tiger 10.4.11. Is it possible that there's a versioning issue that
> macOS only expects a single digit and so the security release was called
> 12.7 to avoid a bug.
>
> I know it's a daft question, but it got me curious. Anyone know?

I suggest you email Howard Oakley and ask him.

h [dot] oakley [at] btconnect [dot] com.

I'm curious as to why you now care about Version 12

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by: Alan B - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 08:43 UTC

Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just noticed this and it didn't twig previously, but as 12.7 was simply
> a bug/security update of not the most current version of macOS why
> didn't Apple just increment the point version number of the last feature
> release (12.6)? This would have been 12.6.10.
>
> Looking back there hasn't been any macOS/OS X version higher that x.x.9
> since Tiger 10.4.11. Is it possible that there's a versioning issue that
> macOS only expects a single digit and so the security release was called
> 12.7 to avoid a bug.
>
> I know it's a daft question, but it got me curious. Anyone know?

Perhaps Apple seemed the security updates so significant they decided to
number the release 12.7?

<https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT213932>

Of course there may have been some other major but non security changes
they have not divulged perhaps preparing the ground for macOS 13? Anyway I
wouldn’t lose any sleep over it ;-)

No doubt a conspiracy theorist will have another opinion!

--
Cheers, Alan

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From: theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
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by: Theo - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 13:04 UTC

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Of course there may have been some other major but non security changes
> they have not divulged perhaps preparing the ground for macOS 13? Anyway I
> wouldn’t lose any sleep over it ;-)

It could also be something that makes Monterey more forward-compatible, eg
updating to a newer protocol for iCloud or similar, or fixing bugs in the
protocol. At some later date Apple could retire the old support and say you
need to be on at least 12.7 to use iCloud.

Theo

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From: ithinkiam@gmail.com (Chris)
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Subject: Re: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?
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by: Chris - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 07:12 UTC

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just noticed this and it didn't twig previously, but as 12.7 was simply
>> a bug/security update of not the most current version of macOS why
>> didn't Apple just increment the point version number of the last feature
>> release (12.6)? This would have been 12.6.10.
>>
>> Looking back there hasn't been any macOS/OS X version higher that x.x.9
>> since Tiger 10.4.11. Is it possible that there's a versioning issue that
>> macOS only expects a single digit and so the security release was called
>> 12.7 to avoid a bug.
>>
>> I know it's a daft question, but it got me curious. Anyone know?
>
> Perhaps Apple seemed the security updates so significant they decided to
> number the release 12.7?
>
> <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT213932>
>
> Of course there may have been some other major but non security changes
> they have not divulged perhaps preparing the ground for macOS 13?

That's the thing 13 was already out. 12.7 was released at the same time as
13.6 and this release was only days before 14 was launched.

Theo's idea that it might be some fundamental change for a future support
cutoff might be close to the money.

> Anyway I
> wouldn’t lose any sleep over it ;-)

Yeah, just one of those curious things.

> No doubt a conspiracy theorist will have another opinion!
>

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From: David.Sankey@stfc.ac.uk (David Sankey)
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by: David Sankey - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 09:30 UTC

On 03/04/2024 08:12, Chris wrote:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Just noticed this and it didn't twig previously, but as 12.7 was simply
>>> a bug/security update of not the most current version of macOS why
>>> didn't Apple just increment the point version number of the last feature
>>> release (12.6)? This would have been 12.6.10.
>>>
>>> Looking back there hasn't been any macOS/OS X version higher that x.x.9
>>> since Tiger 10.4.11. Is it possible that there's a versioning issue that
>>> macOS only expects a single digit and so the security release was called
>>> 12.7 to avoid a bug.
>>>
>>> I know it's a daft question, but it got me curious. Anyone know?
>>
>> Perhaps Apple seemed the security updates so significant they decided to
>> number the release 12.7?
>>
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT213932>
>>
>> Of course there may have been some other major but non security changes
>> they have not divulged perhaps preparing the ground for macOS 13?
>
> That's the thing 13 was already out. 12.7 was released at the same time as
> 13.6 and this release was only days before 14 was launched.
>
> Theo's idea that it might be some fundamental change for a future support
> cutoff might be close to the money.
>
>> Anyway I
>> wouldn’t lose any sleep over it ;-)
>
> Yeah, just one of those curious things.
>
>> No doubt a conspiracy theorist will have another opinion!

And if you look further back you see that they did exactly the same with
macOS Big Sur 11.7 in September 2022.

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by: Chris - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 18:27 UTC

David Sankey <David.Sankey@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
> On 03/04/2024 08:12, Chris wrote:
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Just noticed this and it didn't twig previously, but as 12.7 was simply
>>>> a bug/security update of not the most current version of macOS why
>>>> didn't Apple just increment the point version number of the last feature
>>>> release (12.6)? This would have been 12.6.10.
>>>>
>>>> Looking back there hasn't been any macOS/OS X version higher that x.x.9
>>>> since Tiger 10.4.11. Is it possible that there's a versioning issue that
>>>> macOS only expects a single digit and so the security release was called
>>>> 12.7 to avoid a bug.
>>>>
>>>> I know it's a daft question, but it got me curious. Anyone know?
>>>
>>> Perhaps Apple seemed the security updates so significant they decided to
>>> number the release 12.7?
>>>
>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT213932>
>>>
>>> Of course there may have been some other major but non security changes
>>> they have not divulged perhaps preparing the ground for macOS 13?
>>
>> That's the thing 13 was already out. 12.7 was released at the same time as
>> 13.6 and this release was only days before 14 was launched.
>>
>> Theo's idea that it might be some fundamental change for a future support
>> cutoff might be close to the money.
>>
>>> Anyway I
>>> wouldn’t lose any sleep over it ;-)
>>
>> Yeah, just one of those curious things.
>>
>>> No doubt a conspiracy theorist will have another opinion!
>
> And if you look further back you see that they did exactly the same with
> macOS Big Sur 11.7 in September 2022.

Ah, not so unusual after all. Thanks.

What we wish, that we readily believe. -- Demosthenes

aus+uk / uk.comp.sys.mac / Re: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?

Subject	Author
Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?	Chris
Re: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?	David Brooks
Re: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?	Alan B
Re: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?	Theo
Re: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?	Chris
Re: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?	David Sankey
Re: Why was there a 12.7 release for macOS?	Chris