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by: David Kennedy - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:02 UTC

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From: correspondence@mRaErMtOiVnEsTtHaIySlor.com (Martin S Taylor)
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by: Martin S Taylor - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:05 UTC

On 17 Apr 2024, David Kennedy wrote
(in article<gbednYwKp7-iDYL7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>):

> I have a DS418 which I use for - amongst other things - TimeMachine backups.
> Every now and again it loses connection and I have to disconnect and reconnect
> - finder still thinks everything is fine but TimeMachine just fails.

How is it connected?

MST

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by: David Kennedy - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:09 UTC

On 17/04/2024 10:05, Martin S Taylor wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2024, David Kennedy wrote
> (in article<gbednYwKp7-iDYL7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>):
>
>> I have a DS418 which I use for - amongst other things - TimeMachine backups.
>> Every now and again it loses connection and I have to disconnect and reconnect
>> - finder still thinks everything is fine but TimeMachine just fails.
>
> How is it connected?
>
> MST
>
Wifi

Via a Netgear MR63

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From: nobody@nowhere.co.uk (Graham J)
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by: Graham J - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:23 UTC

David Kennedy wrote:
> On 17/04/2024 10:05, Martin S Taylor wrote:
>> On 17 Apr 2024, David Kennedy wrote
>> (in article<gbednYwKp7-iDYL7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>):
>>
>>> I have a DS418 which I use for - amongst other things - TimeMachine
>>> backups.
>>> Every now and again it loses connection and I have to disconnect and
>>> reconnect
>>> - finder still thinks everything is fine but TimeMachine just fails.
>>
>> How is it connected?
>>
>> MST
>>
> Wifi
>
> Via a Netgear MR63

So don't use WiFi.

ALWAYS connect your computer and NAS using Ethernet cables. You know it
makes sense.

--
Graham J

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by: Alan B - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:34 UTC

David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 17/04/2024 10:05, Martin S Taylor wrote:
>> On 17 Apr 2024, David Kennedy wrote
>> (in article<gbednYwKp7-iDYL7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>):
>>
>>> I have a DS418 which I use for - amongst other things - TimeMachine backups.
>>> Every now and again it loses connection and I have to disconnect and reconnect
>>> - finder still thinks everything is fine but TimeMachine just fails.
>>
>> How is it connected?
>>
>> MST
>>
> Wifi
>
> Via a Netgear MR63

Are you using Sonoma? Getting TM to write to my Ex2 Ultra over Wi-Fi has
been a pita since I upgraded my M1 MBP to it. WD support say bluntly they
do not (yet?) support Sonoma and I’ve also seen it claimed that there is a
bug in macOS Sonoma’s implementation of SMB3. I accidentally discovered a
workaround whilst messing with Ex2 Ultra’s settings by changing Windows
Services -> SMB Protocol to SMB 1, SMB 2, SMB 3 rather than the recommended
SMB 2, SMB 3. I’ve no idea why this works! I thought Sonoma did not
support SMB 1 so it is really using especially as TM backups don’t seem
significantly slower. Graham’s point about using a direct connection is
appreciated but it’s a pain to have to take my portable to the router into
which my Ex2 is connected every time I want to do a backup!

I guess my rant is no help to you other than possibly point to an alleged
SMB issue with Sonoma.

--
Cheers, Alan

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by: Jörg Lorenz - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 13:23 UTC

Am 17.04.24 um 11:23 schrieb Graham J:
> David Kennedy wrote:
>> On 17/04/2024 10:05, Martin S Taylor wrote:
>>> On 17 Apr 2024, David Kennedy wrote
>>> (in article<gbednYwKp7-iDYL7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>):
>>>
>>>> I have a DS418 which I use for - amongst other things - TimeMachine
>>>> backups.
>>>> Every now and again it loses connection and I have to disconnect and
>>>> reconnect
>>>> - finder still thinks everything is fine but TimeMachine just fails.
>>>
>>> How is it connected?
>>>
>>> MST
>>>
>> Wifi
>>
>> Via a Netgear MR63
>
> So don't use WiFi.
>
> ALWAYS connect your computer and NAS using Ethernet cables. You know it
> makes sense.

No it doesn't at all. A NAS that is not capable of keeping the
conncetion in a WiFi-network is useless. What do you propose for the
other 10 or more devices?

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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by: Graham J - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 14:41 UTC

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

[snip]

>>
>> So don't use WiFi.
>>
>> ALWAYS connect your computer and NAS using Ethernet cables. You know it
>> makes sense.
>
> No it doesn't at all. A NAS that is not capable of keeping the
> conncetion in a WiFi-network is useless. What do you propose for the
> other 10 or more devices?
>

With WiFi what you gain in convenience you lose in reliability.

--
Graham J

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by: David Kennedy - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 14:57 UTC

On 17/04/2024 10:23, Graham J wrote:
> David Kennedy wrote:
>> On 17/04/2024 10:05, Martin S Taylor wrote:
>>> On 17 Apr 2024, David Kennedy wrote
>>> (in article<gbednYwKp7-iDYL7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>):
>>>
>>>> I have a DS418 which I use for - amongst other things - TimeMachine backups.
>>>> Every now and again it loses connection and I have to disconnect and
>>>> reconnect
>>>> - finder still thinks everything is fine but TimeMachine just fails.
>>>
>>> How is it connected?
>>>
>>> MST
>>>
>> Wifi
>>
>> Via a Netgear MR63
>
> So don't use WiFi.
>
> ALWAYS connect your computer and NAS using Ethernet cables. You know it makes
> sense.
>
Not when it's a Macbook which travels around - that's the whole point of it.

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by: Jörg Lorenz - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 14:59 UTC

Am 17.04.24 um 16:41 schrieb Graham J:
> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>>
>>> So don't use WiFi.
>>>
>>> ALWAYS connect your computer and NAS using Ethernet cables. You know it
>>> makes sense.
>>
>> No it doesn't at all. A NAS that is not capable of keeping the
>> conncetion in a WiFi-network is useless. What do you propose for the
>> other 10 or more devices?
>>
>
> With WiFi what you gain in convenience you lose in reliability.

You have to die one death.

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by: Jörg Lorenz - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 14:59 UTC

Am 17.04.24 um 16:57 schrieb David Kennedy:
> On 17/04/2024 10:23, Graham J wrote:
>> David Kennedy wrote:
>>> On 17/04/2024 10:05, Martin S Taylor wrote:
>>>> On 17 Apr 2024, David Kennedy wrote
>>>> (in article<gbednYwKp7-iDYL7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>):
>>>>
>>>>> I have a DS418 which I use for - amongst other things - TimeMachine backups.
>>>>> Every now and again it loses connection and I have to disconnect and
>>>>> reconnect
>>>>> - finder still thinks everything is fine but TimeMachine just fails.
>>>>
>>>> How is it connected?
>>>>
>>>> MST
>>>>
>>> Wifi
>>>
>>> Via a Netgear MR63
>>
>> So don't use WiFi.
>>
>> ALWAYS connect your computer and NAS using Ethernet cables. You know it makes
>> sense.
>>
> Not when it's a Macbook which travels around - that's the whole point of it.

My words exactly.

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by: David Kennedy - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:00 UTC

On 17/04/2024 10:34, Alan B wrote:
> David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 17/04/2024 10:05, Martin S Taylor wrote:
>>> On 17 Apr 2024, David Kennedy wrote
>>> (in article<gbednYwKp7-iDYL7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>):
>>>
>>>> I have a DS418 which I use for - amongst other things - TimeMachine backups.
>>>> Every now and again it loses connection and I have to disconnect and reconnect
>>>> - finder still thinks everything is fine but TimeMachine just fails.
>>>
>>> How is it connected?
>>>
>>> MST
>>>
>> Wifi
>>
>> Via a Netgear MR63
>
> Are you using Sonoma? Getting TM to write to my Ex2 Ultra over Wi-Fi has
> been a pita since I upgraded my M1 MBP to it. WD support say bluntly they
> do not (yet?) support Sonoma and I’ve also seen it claimed that there is a
> bug in macOS Sonoma’s implementation of SMB3. I accidentally discovered a
> workaround whilst messing with Ex2 Ultra’s settings by changing Windows
> Services -> SMB Protocol to SMB 1, SMB 2, SMB 3 rather than the recommended
> SMB 2, SMB 3. I’ve no idea why this works! I thought Sonoma did not
> support SMB 1 so it is really using especially as TM backups don’t seem
> significantly slower. Graham’s point about using a direct connection is
> appreciated but it’s a pain to have to take my portable to the router into
> which my Ex2 is connected every time I want to do a backup!
>
> I guess my rant is no help to you other than possibly point to an alleged
> SMB issue with Sonoma.
>
Yes, Sonoma. And, yes, it is a pain to connect which is why I don't do it.
It's much easier to click on connect to server than to fiddle about with
wires. I had thought that this was the whole point of wifi?

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by: Tyrone - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:16 UTC

On Apr 17, 2024 at 5:02:55 AM EDT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
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I would try a static IP address for the DS418. Things can sometimes get
confused when IP addresses change. I have had weirdness with Wi-Fi printers
when using DHCP. Assigning a static IP address to the printer fixed it.

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by: David Kennedy - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 06:13 UTC

On 18/04/2024 00:16, Tyrone wrote:
> On Apr 17, 2024 at 5:02:55 AM EDT, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a DS418 which I use for - amongst other things - TimeMachine backups.
>> Every now and again it loses connection and I have to disconnect and reconnect
>> - finder still thinks everything is fine but TimeMachine just fails.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>
> I would try a static IP address for the DS418. Things can sometimes get
> confused when IP addresses change. I have had weirdness with Wi-Fi printers
> when using DHCP. Assigning a static IP address to the printer fixed it.
>
Thanks but I've done that. I had thought that it might be part of the problem.

Dime is money.

aus+uk / uk.comp.sys.mac / Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server

Subject	Author
M1 MacBook losing conection to server	David Kennedy
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	Martin S Taylor
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	David Kennedy
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	Graham J
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	Jörg Lorenz
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	Graham J
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	Jörg Lorenz
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	David Kennedy
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	Jörg Lorenz
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	Alan B
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	David Kennedy
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	Tyrone
Re: M1 MacBook losing conection to server	David Kennedy