On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 12:07:51 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 00:24:43 +0000, Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 20:57:56 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <WGxsN.28316$oJCf.15977@fx11.ams1> at Thu, 25 Jan 2024
>>>18:23:50, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> writes
>>>[]
>>>>Thinking back on workplaces which had a 'stores'. Sense of humour
>>>>wasn't a notable feature of any of the storekeepers.
>>>>
>>>Probably fed up with apprentices being sent for a left-handed
>>>screwdriver, a long weight, or tartan paint.
>>
>>Apprentice? What's that?
>>
>>Nick
>Some SW ones have been writing weeks in TA lately.

:-)

N.

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 20:56:54 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
scrawled in the dust...
> I wrote
>>The hot pan involved is a cast iron casserole. By cooking 8 meals at a
>>time, over several hours while I'm doing something else, I think it beats
>>your high attention grilling on the laziness stakes.
>
>You lost me at "several hours". Most things I cook are in the 4-8 minute
>range - microwave or grill. I don't have the attention span to do things
>taking hours.

You missed the point that during those several hours, not attention is
required, and I can do other things elsewhere. Even if I leave it an hour
longer than intended, it will be happy, smell good, and be ready to eat if
I cook a few veg to go with it.

The extra portions take about 10 minutes, including veg, when taken from
the freezer.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

In message <2ncari5unjtenuft6tqsda71r4k7puianh@4ax.com> at Sat, 27 Jan
2024 16:49:30, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
>On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 20:56:54 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>scrawled in the dust...
>> I wrote
>>>The hot pan involved is a cast iron casserole. By cooking 8 meals at a
>>>time, over several hours while I'm doing something else, I think it beats
>>>your high attention grilling on the laziness stakes.
>>
>>You lost me at "several hours". Most things I cook are in the 4-8 minute
>>range - microwave or grill. I don't have the attention span to do things
>>taking hours.
>
>You missed the point that during those several hours, not attention is

Two lots of attention _are_ required: the decision to do it in the first
place, and the remembering that it's happening so you can attend to it
when it's finished. Yes, it's a tiny amount of attention, but not zero.
Even if you automate - some sort of timer - you still need to do
something with it when it's finished.

>required, and I can do other things elsewhere. Even if I leave it an hour
>longer than intended, it will be happy, smell good, and be ready to eat if
>I cook a few veg to go with it.

I very rarely do veg.
>
>The extra portions take about 10 minutes, including veg, when taken from
>the freezer.

What, do _two_ - or even more! - cooking things at once?

(-:
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Do ministers do more than lay people?

On 23.1.24 21:17, Nick Odell wrote:
> Warm or not, us kids were still not allowed to have a sip.

I should hope not, downward slope that ... says one who has forcibly
resumed dry whichever month we are now in.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

kosmo wrote:

>On 23.1.24 21:17, Nick Odell wrote:
>> Warm or not, us kids were still not allowed to have a sip.
>
>I should hope not, downward slope that ... says one who has forcibly
>resumed dry whichever month we are now in.

Oriented to time and place? I wonder. ;-)

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
Plant amazing Acers.

"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:

> In message <%8dsN.328169$p%Mb.179533@fx15.iad> at Wed, 24 Jan 2024
> 19:02:19, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> writes
>>On 23-Jan-24 23:38, Penny wrote:
>>> I understand the theory, but not convinced it would make much difference on
>>> chicken, which is what I tend to cook that way. Anything else is
>>> casserolled slowly in a cool oven - sometimes with a quick 'seal' in a hot
>>> pan first.
>>
>>"Seal"? Terribly fatty I would have thought.
>>
>>Do you roast a whole one, or club together with a neighbour?
>>
>
> BTN - though LOL/coughing fit!

Yes!

(Apologies for delay, I've had techie problems)

Rosie

In message <87zfwjhqrl.fsf@golgonooza.co.uk> at Fri, 2 Feb 2024
14:42:06, Rosie Mitchell <rcmitchell@golgonooza.co.uk> writes
>"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:
>
>> In message <%8dsN.328169$p%Mb.179533@fx15.iad> at Wed, 24 Jan 2024
>> 19:02:19, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> writes
>>>On 23-Jan-24 23:38, Penny wrote:
>>>> I understand the theory, but not convinced it would make much difference on
>>>> chicken, which is what I tend to cook that way. Anything else is
>>>> casserolled slowly in a cool oven - sometimes with a quick 'seal' in a hot
>>>> pan first.
>>>
>>>"Seal"? Terribly fatty I would have thought.
>>>
>>>Do you roast a whole one, or club together with a neighbour?
>>>
>>
>> BTN - though LOL/coughing fit!
>
>Yes!
>
>(Apologies for delay, I've had techie problems)
>
>Rosie
>
And then there is
<https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5812988928/h53F8558F/stop-clubbing-baby-seals>
....
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I admire him for the constancy of his curiosity, his effortless sense of
authority and his ability to deliver good science without gimmicks.
- Michael Palin on Sir David Attenborough, RT 2016/5/7-13

Chris J Dixon wrote:

> Sam Plusnet wrote:

>>I suppose it all depends on what temperature the room is at.
>>Back in the day, there have been times when we hardly needed to turn the
>>fridge on.

> I'm sure that I remember a Hancock sketch where he fancies
> himself as a gourmet, and reads that red wine should be allowed
> to reach room temperature.He complains that even his room isn't
> at room temperature.

Our rooms were definitely at room temperature today as they have been all week and probably will be all next. There's a layer inversion/heat dome or something over us and it's peaked in the high thirties every day.

I don't know what "room temperature" the local Cabernet Sauvignon was served at tonight: we poured it out whilst we were on the balcony with the temperature dropping back to 29 or so and it was delicious.

Nick

nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Chris J Dixon wrote:
>
>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>
>>> I suppose it all depends on what temperature the room is at.
>>> Back in the day, there have been times when we hardly needed to turn the
>>> fridge on.
>
>> I'm sure that I remember a Hancock sketch where he fancies
>> himself as a gourmet, and reads that red wine should be allowed
>> to reach room temperature.He complains that even his room isn't
>> at room temperature.
>
> Our rooms were definitely at room temperature today as they have been all
> week and probably will be all next. There's a layer inversion/heat dome
> or something over us and it's peaked in the high thirties every day.
>
> I don't know what "room temperature" the local Cabernet Sauvignon was
> served at tonight: we poured it out whilst we were on the balcony with
> the temperature dropping back to 29 or so and it was delicious.
>
> Nick
>

Thanks for the forecast, some flashy friends of mine who have itchy travel
feet to see the world have just crossed from Brazil into Argy by that them
falls of water.

Mrs McT

Chris wrote:

> nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>
>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>
>>>> I suppose it all depends on what temperature the room is at.
>>>> Back in the day, there have been times when we hardly needed to turn the
>>>> fridge on.
>>
>>> I'm sure that I remember a Hancock sketch where he fancies
>>> himself as a gourmet, and reads that red wine should be allowed
>>> to reach room temperature.He complains that even his room isn't
>>> at room temperature.
>>
>> Our rooms were definitely at room temperature today as they have been all
>> week and probably will be all next. There's a layer inversion/heat dome
>> or something over us and it's peaked in the high thirties every day.
>>
>> I don't know what "room temperature" the local Cabernet Sauvignon was
>> served at tonight: we poured it out whilst we were on the balcony with
>> the temperature dropping back to 29 or so and it was delicious.
>>
>> Nick
>>

> Thanks for the forecast, some flashy friends of mine who have itchy travel
> feet to see the world have just crossed from Brazil into Argy by that them
> falls of water.

I hope they had visited Niagara first because I think they will find Niagara distinctly underwhelming after seeing Iguazú.

Nick

On 5.2.24 13:38, nick wrote:
> I hope they had visited Niagara first because I think they will find
> Niagara distinctly underwhelming after seeing Iguazú.

I actually found Niagara slightly underwhelming when we went there,
although they are a decent set of falls. Iguazú were not that
impressive on our first day, but on the second day someone had turned on
the water flow by opening a dam and so they were far more impressive.

Doubt that I will ever get to Victoria.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>> nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I suppose it all depends on what temperature the room is at.
>>>>> Back in the day, there have been times when we hardly needed to turn the
>>>>> fridge on.
>>>
>>>> I'm sure that I remember a Hancock sketch where he fancies
>>>> himself as a gourmet, and reads that red wine should be allowed
>>>> to reach room temperature.He complains that even his room isn't
>>>> at room temperature.
>>>
>>> Our rooms were definitely at room temperature today as they have been all
>>> week and probably will be all next. There's a layer inversion/heat dome
>>> or something over us and it's peaked in the high thirties every day.
>>>
>>> I don't know what "room temperature" the local Cabernet Sauvignon was
>>> served at tonight: we poured it out whilst we were on the balcony with
>>> the temperature dropping back to 29 or so and it was delicious.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>
>> Thanks for the forecast, some flashy friends of mine who have itchy travel
>> feet to see the world have just crossed from Brazil into Argy by that them
>> falls of water.
>
> I hope they had visited Niagara first because I think they will find
> Niagara distinctly underwhelming after seeing Iguazú.
>
> Nick
>

I can’t keep up with my cruise or flying the world friends. There’s
several couples, where the wofe has little or no sight, and at least one
couple with sight like mine who’re doing a couple of these things a year.
I think they’ve all done Niagra one side if not both. Generously, they
send me details of their travels.

Mrs McT

Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Chris wrote:
>>
>>> nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>> Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I suppose it all depends on what temperature the room is at.
>>>>>> Back in the day, there have been times when we hardly needed to turn the
>>>>>> fridge on.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure that I remember a Hancock sketch where he fancies
>>>>> himself as a gourmet, and reads that red wine should be allowed
>>>>> to reach room temperature.He complains that even his room isn't
>>>>> at room temperature.
>>>>
>>>> Our rooms were definitely at room temperature today as they have been all
>>>> week and probably will be all next. There's a layer inversion/heat dome
>>>> or something over us and it's peaked in the high thirties every day.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what "room temperature" the local Cabernet Sauvignon was
>>>> served at tonight: we poured it out whilst we were on the balcony with
>>>> the temperature dropping back to 29 or so and it was delicious.
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>
>>> Thanks for the forecast, some flashy friends of mine who have itchy travel
>>> feet to see the world have just crossed from Brazil into Argy by that them
>>> falls of water.
>>
>> I hope they had visited Niagara first because I think they will find
>> Niagara distinctly underwhelming after seeing Iguazú.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>
> I can’t keep up with my cruise or flying the world friends. There’s
> several couples, where the wofe has little or no sight, and at least one
> couple with sight like mine who’re doing a couple of these things a year.
> I think they’ve all done Niagra one side if not both. Generously, they
> send me details of their travels.
>
> Mrs McT
>
>

My only experience is with a Nagra though. (A Swiss-engineered high spec.
professional mobile tape recoding machine M’Lud.)

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

In message <uq08eq$1g1h2$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024 15:43:22,
Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
[]
>> I think they’ve all done Niagra one side if not both. Generously, they
>> send me details of their travels.
>>
>> Mrs McT
>>
>>
>
>My only experience is with a Nagra though. (A Swiss-engineered high spec.
>professional mobile tape recoding machine M’Lud.)
>
You remind me of the exchange - about a mysterious mutual acquaintance -
with someone prone to malapromisms or similar:

"He was a weird old bird. Quite an enema."

"Surely you mean 'enigma'."

"Er - right. He was a Nigma."

(I forget where from - some comedy film I think.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

By most scientific estimates sustained, useful fusion is ten years in
the future - and will be ten years in the future for the next fifty
years or more. - "Hamadryad", ~2016-4-4

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <uq08eq$1g1h2$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024 15:43:22,
> Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> []
>>> I think they’ve all done Niagra one side if not both. Generously, they
>>> send me details of their travels.
>>>
>>> Mrs McT
>>>
>>>
>>
>> My only experience is with a Nagra though. (A Swiss-engineered high spec.
>> professional mobile tape recoding machine M’Lud.)
>>
> You remind me of the exchange - about a mysterious mutual acquaintance -
> with someone prone to malapromisms or similar:
>
> "He was a weird old bird. Quite an enema."
>
> "Surely you mean 'enigma'."
>
> "Er - right. He was a Nigma."
>
> (I forget where from - some comedy film I think.)

I was considering another possibility as a simile, Viagra, but I decided
no-one was likely to rise to it.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

In message <uq0e44$1h3j4$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024 17:20:05,
Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
[]
>> In message <uq08eq$1g1h2$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024 15:43:22,
>> Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> []
>>>> I think they’ve all done Niagra one side if not both. Generously, they
>>>> send me details of their travels.
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> My only experience is with a Nagra though. (A Swiss-engineered high spec.
>>> professional mobile tape recoding machine M’Lud.)
[]
>I was considering another possibility as a simile, Viagra, but I decided
>no-one was likely to rise to it.
>
As featured near the beginning of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GysVngf7GrE
(I hardly need to say, given the subject, but "adult content").
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

By most scientific estimates sustained, useful fusion is ten years in
the future - and will be ten years in the future for the next fifty
years or more. - "Hamadryad", ~2016-4-4

On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 17:20:05 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> In message <uq08eq$1g1h2$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024 15:43:22,
>> Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> []
>>>> I think they’ve all done Niagra one side if not both. Generously, they
>>>> send me details of their travels.
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> My only experience is with a Nagra though. (A Swiss-engineered high spec.
>>> professional mobile tape recoding machine M’Lud.)
>>>
>> You remind me of the exchange - about a mysterious mutual acquaintance -
>> with someone prone to malapromisms or similar:
>>
>> "He was a weird old bird. Quite an enema."
>>
>> "Surely you mean 'enigma'."
>>
>> "Er - right. He was a Nigma."
>>
>> (I forget where from - some comedy film I think.)
>
>I was considering another possibility as a simile, Viagra, but I decided
>no-one was likely to rise to it.

I read in a newspaper recently that Viagra is looking promising as a
way of slowing down the onset of Alzheimer's disease. Even if doesn't
reduce the effect of dementia, a good, strong dose given to the male
patients in the geriatric ward will at least make sure they don't roll
out of bed in the middle of the night.

Nick