On fb in the context of not teaching actors to pause before they say
someone's name, which many didn't like, someone posted 'actually went
to ask Chat GPT about this and apparently if the 'actors' are under
19, Ofsted has a duty to inspect them. If over 19, it's a bit of a
free for all. Hope I've earned my Saddo of the Week Award there.'
How old are the actors of the younger cast members?

In message <bbrcsi586i6dtntklcge9lilmsnmp4j06h@4ax.com> at Fri, 9 Feb
2024 18:24:20, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>On fb in the context of not teaching actors to pause before they say
>someone's name, which many didn't like, someone posted 'actually went
>to ask Chat GPT about this and apparently if the 'actors' are under
>19, Ofsted has a duty to inspect them. If over 19, it's a bit of a
>free for all. Hope I've earned my Saddo of the Week Award there.'
>How old are the actors of the younger cast members?

Is Chat GPT the new person/thing you go to to ask questions now? (I know
what it is, it's just the first time I've heard it referred to as if
it's some sort of oracle.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur". ("Anything is more impressive if
you say it in Latin")

"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:

> In message <bbrcsi586i6dtntklcge9lilmsnmp4j06h@4ax.com> at Fri, 9 Feb
> 2024 18:24:20, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>>On fb in the context of not teaching actors to pause before they say
>>someone's name, which many didn't like, someone posted 'actually went
>>to ask Chat GPT about this and apparently if the 'actors' are under
>>19, Ofsted has a duty to inspect them. If over 19, it's a bit of a
>>free for all. Hope I've earned my Saddo of the Week Award there.'
>>How old are the actors of the younger cast members?
>
> Is Chat GPT the new person/thing you go to to ask questions now? (I
> know what it is, it's just the first time I've heard it referred to as
> if it's some sort of oracle.)

It's not an oracle, it's an AI construct which trawls the internet for
all the information it can find, and we all know what the
signal-to-noise ratio of the information you find on the internet
is. Chat GPT's answers are generally more full of mince than a Forfar
bridie.

Rosie

On 10/02/2024 00:04, Rosie Mitchell wrote:
> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:
>
>> In message <bbrcsi586i6dtntklcge9lilmsnmp4j06h@4ax.com> at Fri, 9 Feb
>> 2024 18:24:20, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>>> On fb in the context of not teaching actors to pause before they say
>>> someone's name, which many didn't like, someone posted 'actually went
>>> to ask Chat GPT about this and apparently if the 'actors' are under
>>> 19, Ofsted has a duty to inspect them. If over 19, it's a bit of a
>>> free for all. Hope I've earned my Saddo of the Week Award there.'
>>> How old are the actors of the younger cast members?
>>
>> Is Chat GPT the new person/thing you go to to ask questions now? (I
>> know what it is, it's just the first time I've heard it referred to as
>> if it's some sort of oracle.)
>
> It's not an oracle, it's an AI construct which trawls the internet for
> all the information it can find, and we all know what the
> signal-to-noise ratio of the information you find on the internet
> is. Chat GPT's answers are generally more full of mince than a Forfar
> bridie.
>
<LW>

On 10/02/2024 00:04, Rosie Mitchell wrote:
> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:
>
>> In message <bbrcsi586i6dtntklcge9lilmsnmp4j06h@4ax.com> at Fri, 9 Feb
>> 2024 18:24:20, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>>> On fb in the context of not teaching actors to pause before they say
>>> someone's name, which many didn't like, someone posted 'actually went
>>> to ask Chat GPT about this and apparently if the 'actors' are under
>>> 19, Ofsted has a duty to inspect them. If over 19, it's a bit of a
>>> free for all. Hope I've earned my Saddo of the Week Award there.'
>>> How old are the actors of the younger cast members?
>>
>> Is Chat GPT the new person/thing you go to to ask questions now? (I
>> know what it is, it's just the first time I've heard it referred to as
>> if it's some sort of oracle.)
>
> It's not an oracle, it's a

very naughty Large Language Model. </Brian'sMum>

john

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 09:27:24 +0000, john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 10/02/2024 00:04, Rosie Mitchell wrote:
>> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:
>>
>>> In message <bbrcsi586i6dtntklcge9lilmsnmp4j06h@4ax.com> at Fri, 9 Feb
>>> 2024 18:24:20, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>>>> On fb in the context of not teaching actors to pause before they say
>>>> someone's name, which many didn't like, someone posted 'actually went
>>>> to ask Chat GPT about this and apparently if the 'actors' are under
>>>> 19, Ofsted has a duty to inspect them. If over 19, it's a bit of a
>>>> free for all. Hope I've earned my Saddo of the Week Award there.'
>>>> How old are the actors of the younger cast members?
>>>
>>> Is Chat GPT the new person/thing you go to to ask questions now? (I
>>> know what it is, it's just the first time I've heard it referred to as
>>> if it's some sort of oracle.)
>>
>> It's not an oracle, it's a
>
>very naughty Large Language Model. </Brian'sMum>
>
>john
I am on instagram and twitter but not tried Chat GPT. I am losing the
cutting edge, aren't I? Still truggling to do stuff on phone and
ipad.I really still prefer a deskto.

On 10/02/2024 00:04, Rosie Mitchell wrote:
> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:
>
>> In message <bbrcsi586i6dtntklcge9lilmsnmp4j06h@4ax.com> at Fri, 9 Feb
>> 2024 18:24:20, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>>> On fb in the context of not teaching actors to pause before they say
>>> someone's name, which many didn't like, someone posted 'actually went
>>> to ask Chat GPT about this and apparently if the 'actors' are under
>>> 19, Ofsted has a duty to inspect them. If over 19, it's a bit of a
>>> free for all. Hope I've earned my Saddo of the Week Award there.'
>>> How old are the actors of the younger cast members?
>>
>> Is Chat GPT the new person/thing you go to to ask questions now? (I
>> know what it is, it's just the first time I've heard it referred to as
>> if it's some sort of oracle.)
>
> It's not an oracle, it's an AI construct which trawls the internet for
> all the information it can find, and we all know what the
> signal-to-noise ratio of the information you find on the internet
> is. Chat GPT's answers are generally more full of mince than a Forfar
> bridie.
>
> Rosie

Then swears blind it's true and cites fictitious references to prove it.

--
Ric

Joe Kerr wrote:

> On 10/02/2024 00:04, Rosie Mitchell wrote:
>> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:
>>
>>> In message <bbrcsi586i6dtntklcge9lilmsnmp4j06h@4ax.com> at Fri, 9 Feb
>>> 2024 18:24:20, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>>>> On fb in the context of not teaching actors to pause before they say
>>>> someone's name, which many didn't like, someone posted 'actually went
>>>> to ask Chat GPT about this and apparently if the 'actors' are under
>>>> 19, Ofsted has a duty to inspect them. If over 19, it's a bit of a
>>>> free for all. Hope I've earned my Saddo of the Week Award there.'
>>>> How old are the actors of the younger cast members?
>>>
>>> Is Chat GPT the new person/thing you go to to ask questions now? (I
>>> know what it is, it's just the first time I've heard it referred to as
>>> if it's some sort of oracle.)
>>
>> It's not an oracle, it's an AI construct which trawls the internet for
>> all the information it can find, and we all know what the
>> signal-to-noise ratio of the information you find on the internet
>> is. Chat GPT's answers are generally more full of mince than a Forfar
>> bridie.
>>
>> Rosie

> Then swears blind it's true and cites fictitious references to prove it.

Not just Chat GPT (not that I have ever used it) but Google search has
become worserer and worserer as SEO has "advanced."

Did I tell umra about a visit last year to a nearby town in order to visit
two specific businesses? Google said they would both be open. They were not.
One was closed for the afternoon, the other was now a block of flats so
presumably had been closed for a very long time.

Even if it is 90% or 95% correct, what's the point of having search if you
have to verify everything afterwards?

Nick

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:04:55 +0000, nickodell49@yahoo.ca (nick) wrote:

>Joe Kerr wrote:
>
>> On 10/02/2024 00:04, Rosie Mitchell wrote:
>>> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:
>>>
>>>> In message <bbrcsi586i6dtntklcge9lilmsnmp4j06h@4ax.com> at Fri, 9 Feb
>>>> 2024 18:24:20, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>>>>> On fb in the context of not teaching actors to pause before they say
>>>>> someone's name, which many didn't like, someone posted 'actually went
>>>>> to ask Chat GPT about this and apparently if the 'actors' are under
>>>>> 19, Ofsted has a duty to inspect them. If over 19, it's a bit of a
>>>>> free for all. Hope I've earned my Saddo of the Week Award there.'
>>>>> How old are the actors of the younger cast members?
>>>>
>>>> Is Chat GPT the new person/thing you go to to ask questions now? (I
>>>> know what it is, it's just the first time I've heard it referred to as
>>>> if it's some sort of oracle.)
>>>
>>> It's not an oracle, it's an AI construct which trawls the internet for
>>> all the information it can find, and we all know what the
>>> signal-to-noise ratio of the information you find on the internet
>>> is. Chat GPT's answers are generally more full of mince than a Forfar
>>> bridie.
>>>
>>> Rosie
>
>> Then swears blind it's true and cites fictitious references to prove it.
>
>Not just Chat GPT (not that I have ever used it) but Google search has
>become worserer and worserer as SEO has "advanced."
>
>Did I tell umra about a visit last year to a nearby town in order to visit
>two specific businesses? Google said they would both be open. They were not.
>One was closed for the afternoon, the other was now a block of flats so
>presumably had been closed for a very long time.
>
>Even if it is 90% or 95% correct, what's the point of having search if you
>have to verify everything afterwards?
>
>Nick
I quite often use duckduck go instead, especially if google fails to
help.

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:58:28 +0000, Joe Kerr wrote:

> On 10/02/2024 00:04, Rosie Mitchell wrote:
>> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Is Chat GPT the new person/thing you go to to ask questions now? (I
>>> know what it is, it's just the first time I've heard it referred to as
>>> if it's some sort of oracle.)
>>
>> It's not an oracle, it's an AI construct which trawls the internet for
>> all the information it can find, and we all know what the
>> signal-to-noise ratio of the information you find on the internet is.
>> Chat GPT's answers are generally more full of mince than a Forfar
>> bridie.
>
> Then swears blind it's true and cites fictitious references to prove it.

Now employed generating content[1] for once-respectable newspapers.

[1] One can hardly call it writing.

--
Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0

On 10-Feb-24 0:04, Rosie Mitchell wrote:
> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes:
>
>> In message <bbrcsi586i6dtntklcge9lilmsnmp4j06h@4ax.com> at Fri, 9 Feb
>> 2024 18:24:20, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>>> On fb in the context of not teaching actors to pause before they say
>>> someone's name, which many didn't like, someone posted 'actually went
>>> to ask Chat GPT about this and apparently if the 'actors' are under
>>> 19, Ofsted has a duty to inspect them. If over 19, it's a bit of a
>>> free for all. Hope I've earned my Saddo of the Week Award there.'
>>> How old are the actors of the younger cast members?
>>
>> Is Chat GPT the new person/thing you go to to ask questions now? (I
>> know what it is, it's just the first time I've heard it referred to as
>> if it's some sort of oracle.)
>
> It's not an oracle, it's an AI construct which trawls the internet for
> all the information it can find, and we all know what the
> signal-to-noise ratio of the information you find on the internet
> is. Chat GPT's answers are generally more full of mince than a Forfar
> bridie.

I notice that Amazon have taken to using "AI" to summarise the user
reviews on products.

I cannot tell if the utter garbage it produces is an accurate reflection
of the source material.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 10-Feb-24 14:04, nick wrote:
> Did I tell umra about a visit last year to a nearby town in order to
> visit two specific businesses? Google said they would both be open. They
> were not.
> One was closed for the afternoon, the other was now a block of flats so
> presumably had been closed for a very long time.

That has been true for some time.
I don't know why that particular nugget of information is so often so
faulty.

--
Sam Plusnet

In message <f1jesilcdhunhq1fih12cpegjgig1g2lta@4ax.com> at Sat, 10 Feb
2024 10:14:36, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
[]
>I am on instagram and twitter but not tried Chat GPT. I am losing the
>cutting edge, aren't I? Still truggling to do stuff on phone and
>ipad.I really still prefer a deskto.

I'm on usenet, of course.
I'm on Twitter (X). [But only from a computer.]
I'm _not_ on Facebook - but I don't have anything against those who are.
I'm not on Instagram - I'm not even sure what it _is_.
I'm not on WhatsApp - I'm not even sure what it is.
I'm not on TikTok.
I haven't used ChatGPT yet - and wouldn't have thought of using it to
ask a question, only to generate things (like text or images).
I have a landline, which I use (in and out), and a dumbphone, which
still has some of the ten pounds I put on it when I bought it in autumn
2022.

Incidentally, I just moaned at Lidl's website about them discriminating
against non-smartphone customers with their "Lidl Plus" scheme (I think
it's a loyalty scheme like Clubcard or nectar). They didn't budge, but
did send me a ten pound voucher "as a goodwill gesture" as these
companies always say when they're not going to fix something and want
you to go away.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

once described by Eccentrica Golumbits as the best bang since the big one ...
(first series, fit the second)

In message <cc4a59c81d658435584e77572545d10a@www.novabbs.com> at Sat, 10
Feb 2024 14:04:55, nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> writes
[]
>Did I tell umra about a visit last year to a nearby town in order to
>visit two specific businesses? Google said they would both be open.
>They were not.
>One was closed for the afternoon, the other was now a block of flats so
>presumably had been closed for a very long time.
>
>Even if it is 90% or 95% correct, what's the point of having search if you
>have to verify everything afterwards?
>
>Nick

I might use Google (others might use DuckDuckGo, bing, or other search
engines) to find the website of the business, but I'd only accept
opening hours from the latter, not the former. Granted, for some
businesses, actually finding their own website can be hard work, as you
first find lots of middlemen wanting to sell you their services - hotels
for example, you find lots of booking agencies before you find the hotel
itself.

For the one that had disappeared - sometimes I might use Google Street
View to look at the building, or at least where I thought the building
was: OK, that _can_ be out of date, but usually isn't, and always has
the year of the picture-taking along the bottom edge.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

once described by Eccentrica Golumbits as the best bang since the big one ...
(first series, fit the second)

On 10/02/2024 19:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <f1jesilcdhunhq1fih12cpegjgig1g2lta@4ax.com> at Sat, 10 Feb
> 2024 10:14:36, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
> []
>> I am on instagram and twitter but not tried Chat GPT. I am losing the
>> cutting edge, aren't I? Still truggling to do stuff on phone and
>> ipad.I really still prefer a deskto.
>
> I'm on usenet, of course.
> I'm on Twitter (X). [But only from a computer.]
> I'm _not_ on Facebook - but I don't have anything against those who are.
> I'm not on Instagram - I'm not even sure what it _is_.
> I'm not on WhatsApp - I'm not even sure what it is.
> I'm not on TikTok.
> I haven't used ChatGPT yet - and wouldn't have thought of using it to
> ask a question, only to generate things (like text or images).
> I have a landline, which I use (in and out), and a dumbphone, which
> still has some of the ten pounds I put on it when I bought it in autumn
> 2022.
>
> Incidentally, I just moaned at Lidl's website about them discriminating
> against non-smartphone customers with their "Lidl Plus" scheme (I think
> it's a loyalty scheme like Clubcard or nectar). They didn't budge, but
> did send me a ten pound voucher "as a goodwill gesture" as these
> companies always say when they're not going to fix something and want
> you to go away.

I have the app but never remember to use it. So I think a ten pound
voucher probably leaves you quids in.

--
Kate B

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 21:37:32 +0000, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 10/02/2024 19:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <f1jesilcdhunhq1fih12cpegjgig1g2lta@4ax.com> at Sat, 10 Feb
>> 2024 10:14:36, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>> []
>>> I am on instagram and twitter but not tried Chat GPT. I am losing the
>>> cutting edge, aren't I? Still truggling to do stuff on phone and
>>> ipad.I really still prefer a deskto.
>>
>> I'm on usenet, of course.
>> I'm on Twitter (X). [But only from a computer.]
>> I'm _not_ on Facebook - but I don't have anything against those who are.
>> I'm not on Instagram - I'm not even sure what it _is_.
>> I'm not on WhatsApp - I'm not even sure what it is.
>> I'm not on TikTok.
>> I haven't used ChatGPT yet - and wouldn't have thought of using it to
>> ask a question, only to generate things (like text or images).
>> I have a landline, which I use (in and out), and a dumbphone, which
>> still has some of the ten pounds I put on it when I bought it in autumn
>> 2022.
>>
>> Incidentally, I just moaned at Lidl's website about them discriminating
>> against non-smartphone customers with their "Lidl Plus" scheme (I think
>> it's a loyalty scheme like Clubcard or nectar). They didn't budge, but
>> did send me a ten pound voucher "as a goodwill gesture" as these
>> companies always say when they're not going to fix something and want
>> you to go away.
>
>I have the app but never remember to use it. So I think a ten pound
>voucher probably leaves you quids in.
All orgs want you to use aps and I don't like them or doing much on my
phone as my fingers are clumsy and shakey. Often it is very hard to
find a route to complain online or with email and I don't like to
phone as there is no record of the call and my hearing is not that
good with some people's speech. I often have success by twitter
complaints though. Tescos are good that way. I just go straight there
now.

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <f1jesilcdhunhq1fih12cpegjgig1g2lta@4ax.com> at Sat, 10 Feb
> 2024 10:14:36, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
> []
>> I am on instagram and twitter but not tried Chat GPT. I am losing the
>> cutting edge, aren't I? Still truggling to do stuff on phone and
>> ipad.I really still prefer a deskto.
>
> I'm on usenet, of course.
> I'm on Twitter (X). [But only from a computer.]
> I'm _not_ on Facebook - but I don't have anything against those who are.
> I'm not on Instagram - I'm not even sure what it _is_.
> I'm not on WhatsApp - I'm not even sure what it is.
> I'm not on TikTok.
> I haven't used ChatGPT yet - and wouldn't have thought of using it to
> ask a question, only to generate things (like text or images).
> I have a landline, which I use (in and out), and a dumbphone, which
> still has some of the ten pounds I put on it when I bought it in autumn
> 2022.
>
> Incidentally, I just moaned at Lidl's website about them discriminating
> against non-smartphone customers with their "Lidl Plus" scheme (I think
> it's a loyalty scheme like Clubcard or nectar). They didn't budge, but
> did send me a ten pound voucher "as a goodwill gesture" as these
> companies always say when they're not going to fix something and want
> you to go away.

More than I got when I complained about the construction of their cranberry
juice tops!

Mrs McT