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Nick

On 07/04/2024 21:20, Nick Odell wrote:
> <https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/apr/07/tired-of-absurd-tv-soap-plots-give-ambridge-a-try>
>
> Nick

The writer seems to have forgotten the time Tom Forrest got away with
shooting a poacher.

Also from The Guardian (well, The Observer, actually) yesterday's
Everyman crossword has a R4 theme which might appeal to cruciverbirats.
The most appropriate clue was:

Brian Aldridge, somewhat obsessive (4)

Should Miranda be warned?

john

In message <uv027f$3b082$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 8 Apr 2024 07:18:23,
john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> writes
>On 07/04/2024 21:20, Nick Odell wrote:
>>
>><https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/apr/07/tired-of-absurd-t
>>v-soap-plots-give-ambridge-a-try>
>> Nick

(Thanks.)
>
>The writer seems to have forgotten the time Tom Forrest got away with
>shooting a poacher.
>
>Also from The Guardian (well, The Observer, actually) yesterday's
>Everyman crossword has a R4 theme which might appeal to cruciverbirats.
>The most appropriate clue was:
>
>Brian Aldridge, somewhat obsessive (4)
>
>Should Miranda be warned?
>
>john

There was a prog. (after last night's epi.; could it have been the prog.
I usually turn off?) about cryptic crosswords, which mentioned it -
those who like such, it (the crossword) is at
https://crosswords-static.guim.co.uk/obs.everyman.20240407.pdf . I've
done all but 7 or 8 clues. (Although it has an R4 _theme_, I don't think
you actually have to know anything about R4 to _do_ them, unless you do
for the ones I haven't got yet.)

The prog. - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001y22r - was quite good;
I had heard another on the subject a few (which probably means many!)
years ago, which mentioned crosswords on some (IIRR tube) stations, and
also a very long (I think it was 12 letters!) hidden-word clue. Anyone
else remember that one (or even better, have a link to it)?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Now, don't worry. We'll be right behind you. Hiding. (First series, fit the
sixth.)

On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 07:18:23 +0100, john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 07/04/2024 21:20, Nick Odell wrote:
>> <https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/apr/07/tired-of-absurd-tv-soap-plots-give-ambridge-a-try>
>>
>> Nick
>
>The writer seems to have forgotten the time Tom Forrest got away with
>shooting a poacher.
<snip>
The trouble is that the 12-year-old marketing executives who seem to
be the only ones getting letters published in the Grauiad these days
weren't even alive when that happened and have probably never heard of
Tom Forrest

Nick

Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> writes:

> On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 07:18:23 +0100, john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 07/04/2024 21:20, Nick Odell wrote:
>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/apr/07/tired-of-absurd-tv-soap-plots-give-ambridge-a-try>
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>>The writer seems to have forgotten the time Tom Forrest got away with
>>shooting a poacher.
> <snip>
> The trouble is that the 12-year-old marketing executives who seem to
> be the only ones getting letters published in the Grauiad these days
> weren't even alive when that happened and have probably never heard of
> Tom Forrest

I remember the days when I used to scan the letters in the Grauniad to
see how many of their writers I knew. I was also dead chuffed when my
first ever letter to the Grauniad, in November 1982, was not only
published but was the lead letter of the day. That was when you started
your letter "Sir," and there was still an ad for Sam's Chop House on the
top left of the front page.

The Grauniad is not what it was. It seems to be run by and for
12-year-old marketing executives these days.

Rosie

Rosie Mitchell <rcmitchell@golgonooza.co.uk> wrote:
> Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 07:18:23 +0100, john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/04/2024 21:20, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/apr/07/tired-of-absurd-tv-soap-plots-give-ambridge-a-try>
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>
>>> The writer seems to have forgotten the time Tom Forrest got away with
>>> shooting a poacher.
>> <snip>
>> The trouble is that the 12-year-old marketing executives who seem to
>> be the only ones getting letters published in the Grauiad these days
>> weren't even alive when that happened and have probably never heard of
>> Tom Forrest
>
> I remember the days when I used to scan the letters in the Grauniad to
> see how many of their writers I knew. I was also dead chuffed when my
> first ever letter to the Grauniad, in November 1982, was not only
> published but was the lead letter of the day. That was when you started
> your letter "Sir," and there was still an ad for Sam's Chop House on the
> top left of the front page.
>
> The Grauniad is not what it was. It seems to be run by and for
> 12-year-old marketing executives these days.
>
> Rosie
>

YA EdReardon AICM£5

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On 08-Apr-24 13:36, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 07:18:23 +0100, john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 07/04/2024 21:20, Nick Odell wrote:
>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/apr/07/tired-of-absurd-tv-soap-plots-give-ambridge-a-try>
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>> The writer seems to have forgotten the time Tom Forrest got away with
>> shooting a poacher.
> <snip>
> The trouble is that the 12-year-old marketing executives who seem to
> be the only ones getting letters published in the Grauiad these days
> weren't even alive when that happened and have probably never heard of
> Tom Forrest

To be fair to 12-year-old marketing executives for a moment, the event
you mentioned happened in 1957[1], so...
There could be a few Umrats who are too youthful to have clear recall.

[1] the Gruniad itself mentioned this in an article from 28 Jan 2016:

"In 1957, Bob Larkin is out poaching when he is shot by Tom Forrest, for
which the latter is charged with manslaughter but later acquitted. This
vintage storyline has always been a highlight of Ambridge mysteries. The
motive? Bob Larkin was a rival for the affections of barmaid Pru Harris,
whom Tom later married. But we’ll never know what really happened."

--
Sam Plusnet