After years of feeling smug that I had never had Covid.

Felt crappy last week , thought it was just a heavy cold.
Noticed I couldn't really taste stuff, so as a wee test tried tasting a
finger dipped in chilli powder this led to me digging a couple of covid
tests out of the cupboard.
Guess who was positive ?

Mind you only reason I knew it was Covid was a self administered test.
Very tame compared to most of the horror stories (I suspect I have
something nearing the Omicron variant than the Delta).

As soon as the tests are negative shall re-enter the world, rather
than self isolating for a further twelve days (can't remember the
details anyway).

I fully understand Covid was a much deeper threat a couple of years ago.
But as of now I feel I have got to think that something which you have
to take a test to tell you you have it, is no longer much of a threat

soup said:
> After years of feeling smug that I had never had Covid.
>
>
> Felt crappy last week , thought it was just a heavy cold.
> Noticed I couldn't really taste stuff, so as a wee test tried tasting a
> finger dipped in chilli powder this led to me digging a couple of covid
> tests out of the cupboard.
> Guess who was positive ?
>
> Mind you only reason I knew it was Covid was a self administered test.
> Very tame compared to most of the horror stories (I suspect I have
> something nearing the Omicron variant than the Delta).
>
> As soon as the tests are negative shall re-enter the world, rather
> than self isolating for a further twelve days (can't remember the
> details anyway).
>
> I fully understand Covid was a much deeper threat a couple of years ago.
> But as of now I feel I have got to think that something which you have
> to take a test to tell you you have it, is no longer much of a threat

The catch with that is the risk of passing it on to one of the poor
ignored sods who are vulnerable, and will have to shield themselves (ie
give up on having a life) for ever if nobody else bothers about it. Or,
of course, to someone else who ... and, recurse.

I also tested +ve for a few weks with no symptoms, and have heard others
say the same. I also have friends who had it and said it was very
horrible for a long time.

Please, wear a mask ?

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:42:55 +0100, soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

>After years of feeling smug that I had never had Covid.
>
>
>Felt crappy last week , thought it was just a heavy cold.
>Noticed I couldn't really taste stuff, so as a wee test tried tasting a
>finger dipped in chilli powder this led to me digging a couple of covid
>tests out of the cupboard.
>Guess who was positive ?
>
> Mind you only reason I knew it was Covid was a self administered test.
> Very tame compared to most of the horror stories (I suspect I have
>something nearing the Omicron variant than the Delta).
>
> As soon as the tests are negative shall re-enter the world, rather
>than self isolating for a further twelve days (can't remember the
>details anyway).
>
>I fully understand Covid was a much deeper threat a couple of years ago.
>But as of now I feel I have got to think that something which you have
>to take a test to tell you you have it, is no longer much of a threat

Get well soon.
My wife and me both tested positive after the family Easter
get-together. My first bout, her second. It was ~ a bad cold
that lasted 2 weeks ; followed by ~ a month of a sporadic
tickle-cough.
Like 95 % of the general public here-abouts we've stopped
wearing the masks except for the rare occasion when we're
in a crowded indoor location.
John T.

soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:u6pphd$23dpt$2@dont-email.me:

> After years of feeling smug that I had never had Covid.
>
>
> Felt crappy last week , thought it was just a heavy cold.
> Noticed I couldn't really taste stuff, so as a wee test tried tasting a
> finger dipped in chilli powder this led to me digging a couple of covid
> tests out of the cupboard.
> Guess who was positive ?
>
Sorry to hear that. We've all got a bit lax now, what with familiarity,
vaccines and dexamethazone, but it's still very much out and about. Get
better soon.

--
Peter
-----

On 19/06/2023 16:16, Peter wrote:
> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:u6pphd$23dpt$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> After years of feeling smug that I had never had Covid.
>>
>>
>> Felt crappy last week , thought it was just a heavy cold.
>> Noticed I couldn't really taste stuff, so as a wee test tried tasting a
>> finger dipped in chilli powder this led to me digging a couple of covid
>> tests out of the cupboard.
>> Guess who was positive ?
>>
> Sorry to hear that. We've all got a bit lax now, what with familiarity,
> vaccines and dexamethazone, but it's still very much out and about. Get
> better soon.
>
>

It seems to be regarded more like the common cold nowadays. The booster
jabs are probably helping those of us who are vulnerable due to age
and/or infirmity.

Long covid seems to be the bigger problem now. I had covid big time
before we knew what it was, back in Dec 2019. (I live in York, and that
is where UK outbreaks began.) But long covid is still with me with
breathlessness and weakness when I try to do anything at all strenuous,
even walking.

Folks don't seem to be getting long covid now.

Tone

On 19/06/2023 15:54, Richard Robinson wrote:
> soup said:

>> As soon as the tests are negative shall re-enter the world, rather
>> than self isolating for a further twelve days (can't remember the
>> details anyway).

> The catch with that is the risk of passing it on to one of the poor
> ignored sods who are vulnerable, and will have to shield themselves (ie
> give up on having a life) for ever if nobody else bothers about it. Or,
> of course, to someone else who ... and, recurse.

To paraphrase some learned person or other, "the catch with that is
where do you stop".
I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might carry.
(Remember I could not tell from the symptoms that it was Covid. I had to
test for it)
that puts me in the same sort of boat as the other poor buggers who have
to isolate forever.

Some people are completely asymptomatic to some very serious diseases
where do you draw the line "I shan't go out and expose someone to X even
though there is no evidence that I have X."

On 19.6.23 3:54 pm, Richard Robinson wrote:
> soup said:
>> After years of feeling smug that I had never had Covid.
>>
>>
>> Felt crappy last week , thought it was just a heavy cold.
>> Noticed I couldn't really taste stuff, so as a wee test tried tasting a
>> finger dipped in chilli powder this led to me digging a couple of covid
>> tests out of the cupboard.
>> Guess who was positive ?
>>
>> Mind you only reason I knew it was Covid was a self administered test.
>> Very tame compared to most of the horror stories (I suspect I have
>> something nearing the Omicron variant than the Delta).
>>
>> As soon as the tests are negative shall re-enter the world, rather
>> than self isolating for a further twelve days (can't remember the
>> details anyway).
>>
>> I fully understand Covid was a much deeper threat a couple of years ago.
>> But as of now I feel I have got to think that something which you have
>> to take a test to tell you you have it, is no longer much of a threat
>
> The catch with that is the risk of passing it on to one of the poor
> ignored sods who are vulnerable, and will have to shield themselves (ie
> give up on having a life) for ever if nobody else bothers about it. Or,
> of course, to someone else who ... and, recurse.
>
> I also tested +ve for a few weks with no symptoms, and have heard others
> say the same. I also have friends who had it and said it was very
> horrible for a long time.
>
> Please, wear a mask ?
>

Good advice!

--
Bob,
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Licentiae, quam stulti libertatem vocabant - Tacitus
Licence, which fools call liberty.

On 19/06/2023 17:16, Tone wrote:

> It seems to be regarded more like the common cold nowadays.

That is/was my experience of it.

> The booster jabs are probably helping those of us who are vulnerable
due to age
> and/or infirmity.

Well I am 60 (mere stripling) and diabetic and have Sciatica and... so
yup definitely in the susceptible group but I am now triple Vaccinated
(indeed get a Vaccination booster every year with my flu jab.

> Long covid seems to be the bigger problem now. I had covid big time
> before we knew what it was, back in Dec 2019. But long covid is still with me with
> breathlessness and weakness when I try to do anything at all strenuous,
> even walking.

Sorry to here that Tone and having to put up with your legs too.
Yet I have never heard you whinge excessively I do not envy you your
problems

> Folks don't seem to be getting long covid now.

I hope I never do it would "put the tin hat" on the rest of my problems

In article <u6q2pg$24bas$1@dont-email.me>, soup <invalid@invalid.com>
on Mon, 19 Jun 2023 at 18:20:48 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and
wrote
>On 19/06/2023 15:54, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> soup said:
>
>>> As soon as the tests are negative shall re-enter the world, rather
>>> than self isolating for a further twelve days (can't remember the
>>> details anyway).
>
>> The catch with that is the risk of passing it on to one of the poor
>> ignored sods who are vulnerable, and will have to shield themselves (ie
>> give up on having a life) for ever if nobody else bothers about it. Or,
>> of course, to someone else who ... and, recurse.
>
> To paraphrase some learned person or other, "the catch with that is
>where do you stop".
>I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might carry.
>(Remember I could not tell from the symptoms that it was Covid. I had to
>test for it)
>that puts me in the same sort of boat as the other poor buggers who have
>to isolate forever.
>
> Some people are completely asymptomatic to some very serious diseases
>where do you draw the line "I shan't go out and expose someone to X even
>though there is no evidence that I have X."
>
>
A bit like Typhoid Mary (Mary Mallon). She really did exist and killed a
number of people. She did not set out to kill people, but to make a
living. She was a long term symptomless carrier of Typhoid whose only
way of making a living and keeping body and soul together was to work.
The only work she knew was cooking/housekeeping, which made her lethal
to her employers.

In the early 20th Century there was no antibiotic treatment which would
have cleared the salmonella sp. from her gut and she ended up
incarcerated in an isolation hospital until she died.

Turning to Covid, we can at least know when we have stopped shedding the
virus, the problem is that it would appear that not all of us show
symptoms when we have been infected. I am not aware of permanent long
term carriers, although it took me 3 weeks before I stopped shedding
virus particles and my infection was very mild (only 2 days of a quite a
small rise in body temperature). Have I been infected since and not
realized? Who knows.

I do wear a mask when ever I am on a bus or indoors with non-family
members, to protect myself and others. As you said, when do we stop? Our
faces are important for interpersonal communication and masks distort
voices, a lot.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:u6q2pg$24bas$1@dont-email.me:

> I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might carry.

Simmilarly I would not wish to expose myself to anyone.

--
Peter
-----

soup said:
> On 19/06/2023 15:54, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> soup said:
>
>>> As soon as the tests are negative shall re-enter the world, rather
>>> than self isolating for a further twelve days (can't remember the
>>> details anyway).
>
>> The catch with that is the risk of passing it on to one of the poor
>> ignored sods who are vulnerable, and will have to shield themselves (ie
>> give up on having a life) for ever if nobody else bothers about it. Or,
>> of course, to someone else who ... and, recurse.
>
> To paraphrase some learned person or other, "the catch with that is
> where do you stop".
> I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might carry.
> (Remember I could not tell from the symptoms that it was Covid. I had to
> test for it)
> that puts me in the same sort of boat as the other poor buggers who have
> to isolate forever.
>
> Some people are completely asymptomatic to some very serious diseases
> where do you draw the line "I shan't go out and expose someone to X even
> though there is no evidence that I have X."

But you said there was evidence ?

Testing yourself if you think you mght have it is probably a good idea.
If the test tells you you do, trying to avoid passing it on would be nice.
Nailing the doors up and painting black crosses on them would probably
be going too far. HTH.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 19/06/2023 19:02, Peter wrote:
> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:u6q2pg$24bas$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might carry.
>
> Simmilarly I would not wish to expose myself to anyone.
>
As the bishop said...

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 19/06/2023 18:54, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> and masks distort voices, a lot.

...and me being on the deaf side I 'hear' better when I can see someone's
mouth, no I can't lip read but my brain does take a good stab at filling
in the gaps. When I look at someone's face whilst I try to listen to
them talking obviousl if they have a mask on I have to guess at what
they are saying if they are at all unclear in their diction.

On 19/06/2023 18:32, soup wrote:
> Sorry to here that Tone and having to put up with your legs too.
> Yet I have never heard you whinge excessively I do not envy you your
> problems

Whingeing in t'shed? Me? Tried it once. Got the piss taken out of me! I
have now joined the piss-takers.

The health problems are on-going but one has to adapt, or give up.

I've now banned myself from doing live radio as the wheezing is
noticeable on mic. I now pre-record from home. That means I can edit out
the bad bits and I don't have to climb the radio station stairs to get
to the studio.

My voice has got huskier (not like a Husky). But it has been said it's
sexier. I'll take that for now.

I'm still enjoying the caravan. Lugging it around the lanes is the fun
bit*. Setting up on site can be exhausting. It's five minutes effort
twixt ten minute sit downs to get my breath back, but worth it.

Other campers offer to help but I politely decline. When I can't do it
messen, I'll stop.

*I do use a tow motor.

Tone

On 19/06/2023 19:02, Peter wrote:
> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:u6q2pg$24bas$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might carry.
>
> Simmilarly I would not wish to expose myself to anyone.
>

Nor would I wish to be your exposee.

Tone

Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
[...]
> It's five minutes effort
> twixt ten minute sit downs to get my breath back, but worth it.

I assume that the pulmo-specialists have you on their books?
If not get on their list, it helps.

--
^Ï^. – Sn!pe – <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On 20/06/2023 01:26, Tone wrote:
> 'm still enjoying the caravan. Lugging it around the lanes is the fun
> bit*. Setting up on site can be exhausting. It's five minutes effort
> twixt ten minute sit downs to get my breath back, but worth it.

Do you take a beta-blocker? Bisopralol especially can reduce the bore of
airways in the lungs...

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

Tone <tone@email.com> wrote in news:u6qrov$26trg$2@dont-email.me:

> On 19/06/2023 19:02, Peter wrote:
>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
>> news:u6q2pg$24bas$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might
>>> carry.
>>
>> Simmilarly I would not wish to expose myself to anyone.
>>
>
> Nor would I wish to be your exposee.

I wonder, whose exposee would you like to be?

--
Peter
-----

On 20/06/2023 09:40, Peter wrote:
> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote in news:u6qrov$26trg$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 19/06/2023 19:02, Peter wrote:
>>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
>>> news:u6q2pg$24bas$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might
>>>> carry.
>>>
>>> Simmilarly I would not wish to expose myself to anyone.
>>>
>>
>> Nor would I wish to be your exposee.
>
> I wonder, whose exposee would you like to be?
>
Isn't the aim to be a co-exposee?

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 20/06/2023 07:07, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 20/06/2023 01:26, Tone wrote:
>> 'm still enjoying the caravan. Lugging it around the lanes is the fun
>> bit*. Setting up on site can be exhausting. It's five minutes effort
>> twixt ten minute sit downs to get my breath back, but worth it.
>
> Do you take a beta-blocker? Bisopralol especially can reduce the bore of
> airways in the lungs...
>

No I don't. The problem is the microcosmic damage that covid did to the
lungs. I'm forever coughing up green gunge, yet X-rays say I'm fine.

Still catching it that early, I'm just grateful that I'm still here.

Tone

On 20/06/2023 09:40, Peter wrote:
> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote in news:u6qrov$26trg$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 19/06/2023 19:02, Peter wrote:
>>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
>>> news:u6q2pg$24bas$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might
>>>> carry.
>>>
>>> Simmilarly I would not wish to expose myself to anyone.
>>>
>>
>> Nor would I wish to be your exposee.
>
> I wonder, whose exposee would you like to be?
>

Been there. Done that.

Tone

On 20/06/2023 10:55, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 20/06/2023 09:40, Peter wrote:
>> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote in news:u6qrov$26trg$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 19/06/2023 19:02, Peter wrote:
>>>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
>>>> news:u6q2pg$24bas$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might
>>>>> carry.
>>>>
>>>> Simmilarly I would not wish to expose myself to anyone.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nor would I wish to be your exposee.
>>
>> I wonder, whose exposee would you like to be?
>>
> Isn't the aim to be a co-exposee?
>
>

Depends how good you aim is.

Tone

On 20/06/2023 10:55, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 20/06/2023 09:40, Peter wrote:
>> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote in news:u6qrov$26trg$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 19/06/2023 19:02, Peter wrote:
>>>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
>>>> news:u6q2pg$24bas$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> I could never go out and never expose any one to anything I might
>>>>> carry.
>>>>
>>>> Simmilarly I would not wish to expose myself to anyone.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nor would I wish to be your exposee.
>>
>> I wonder, whose exposee would you like to be?
>>
> Isn't the aim to be a co-exposee?

You lot have made we wonder what goes on (off?) at an Exposition.

I shudda known it would be filthy.