I use news.individual.net, pay a small sum every year, and get a
satisfactory service.
BUT.

Recently, slrn does not find that server. By trying lots of things,
after all thta is what hackers do, I discover that if I ping
www.google.com for a moment, immediatelly after slrn will connect to
individual net.

Any ideas?. I know that if you have a mobile phone that wont find a
server in remote areas, if you make an emergency call, for a few moments
later, your mobile will get a server out.

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Boris, The Once and Future P.M.
Fe, Fi, Fo, Fum, I smell the stench of Influencers

On 03/07/2023 09:01, maus wrote:
> I use news.individual.net, pay a small sum every year, and get a
> satisfactory service.
> BUT.
>
> Recently, slrn does not find that server. By trying lots of things,
> after all thta is what hackers do, I discover that if I ping
> www.google.com for a moment, immediatelly after slrn will connect to
> individual net.
>
> Any ideas?. I know that if you have a mobile phone that wont find a
> server in remote areas, if you make an emergency call, for a few moments
> later, your mobile will get a server out.
>
Using Thunderguts, I occasionally find NIN drops off the scene, (Headers
which I can't download the article for) but comes back after I restart
the browser or my wifi connection. It's been like that for ages.

I just accept it, after all, I doubt the news server is a major priority
for the university that runs the main swerver.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 2023-07-03, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 03/07/2023 09:01, maus wrote:
>> I use news.individual.net, pay a small sum every year, and get a
>> satisfactory service.
>> BUT.
>>
>> Recently, slrn does not find that server. By trying lots of things,
>> after all thta is what hackers do, I discover that if I ping
>> www.google.com for a moment, immediatelly after slrn will connect to
>> individual net.
>>
>> Any ideas?. I know that if you have a mobile phone that wont find a
>> server in remote areas, if you make an emergency call, for a few moments
>> later, your mobile will get a server out.
>>
> Using Thunderguts, I occasionally find NIN drops off the scene, (Headers
> which I can't download the article for) but comes back after I restart
> the browser or my wifi connection. It's been like that for ages.
>
> I just accept it, after all, I doubt the news server is a major priority
> for the university that runs the main swerver.
>

I must try thunder*. There was an notice at renewal time this years that
the service was only for the use of German taxpayers. US newsservers are
very expensive.

--
greymausg@mail.com
Boris, The Once and Future P.M.
Fe, Fi, Fo, Fum, I smell the stench of Influencers

On 03/07/2023 09:46, maus wrote:

> I must try thunder*. There was an notice at renewal time this years that
> the service was only for the use of German taxpayers. US newsservers are
> very expensive.
>
>
The rule changed a while ago as part of the money laundering rules, and
you can't open a new account from an IP address outside Germany. They
did, though, recently take my money from the UK with no problems.

Eternal September is widely respected and is donationware, but is text
only. A *lot* in here use it.

https://www.eternal-september.org/

I also have a dormant account at news.tornevall.net Again, if you use
it, the guy is happy to accept donations and add text groups if you
can't find the one you want on the server.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 2023-07-03, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 03/07/2023 09:46, maus wrote:
>
>> I must try thunder*. There was an notice at renewal time this years that
>> the service was only for the use of German taxpayers. US newsservers are
>> very expensive.
>>
>>
> The rule changed a while ago as part of the money laundering rules, and
> you can't open a new account from an IP address outside Germany. They
> did, though, recently take my money from the UK with no problems.
>
> Eternal September is widely respected and is donationware, but is text
> only. A *lot* in here use it.
>
> https://www.eternal-september.org/
>
> I also have a dormant account at news.tornevall.net Again, if you use
> it, the guy is happy to accept donations and add text groups if you
> can't find the one you want on the server.
>

I do not need non-text groups, after all, after cleaning three daughters
bums, I know what girls look like under the covers. :)

I will try eternal.

Thanks for your reply.

ireland North and South are in a odd situation after Brexit. A lot of
European mainlanders do not realize that ireland is still in the EU

Again, Thanks

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Boris, The Once and Future P.M.
Fe, Fi, Fo, Fum, I smell the stench of Influencers

On 3 Jul 2023 10:15:22 GMT
maus <maus@darkstar.org> wrote:

> ireland North and South are in a odd situation after Brexit. A lot of
> European mainlanders do not realize that ireland is still in the EU

It might help if we didn't drive on the left[NS] and use BS 1363
plugs and sockets instead of Schuko.

[NS} Changing that would make the border interesting.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
Host: Beautiful Theory meet Inconvenient Fact
Obit: Beautiful Theory died today of factual inconsistency

On 03/07/2023 09:46, maus wrote:
> On 2023-07-03, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 03/07/2023 09:01, maus wrote:
>>> I use news.individual.net, pay a small sum every year, and get a
>>> satisfactory service.
>>> BUT.
>>>
>>> Recently, slrn does not find that server. By trying lots of things,
>>> after all thta is what hackers do, I discover that if I ping
>>> www.google.com for a moment, immediatelly after slrn will connect to
>>> individual net.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?. I know that if you have a mobile phone that wont find a
>>> server in remote areas, if you make an emergency call, for a few moments
>>> later, your mobile will get a server out.
>>>
>> Using Thunderguts, I occasionally find NIN drops off the scene, (Headers
>> which I can't download the article for) but comes back after I restart
>> the browser or my wifi connection. It's been like that for ages.
>>
>> I just accept it, after all, I doubt the news server is a major priority
>> for the university that runs the main swerver.
>>
>
> I must try thunder*. There was an notice at renewal time this years that
> the service was only for the use of German taxpayers. US newsservers are
> very expensive.

Thunderbum is a newsreader not a server.

Eternal September is a free (but you can donate) server, and pretty
reliable.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 03/07/2023 14:41, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 03/07/2023 09:46, maus wrote:

> Thunderbum is a newsreader not a server.
>
> Eternal September is a free (but you can donate) server, and pretty
> reliable.
>
Maus is using NIN, which is why he/she/it is moaning about paying ten
EUzu per year for the service.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 2023-07-03, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On 3 Jul 2023 10:15:22 GMT
> maus <maus@darkstar.org> wrote:
>
>> ireland North and South are in a odd situation after Brexit. A lot of
>> European mainlanders do not realize that ireland is still in the EU
>
> It might help if we didn't drive on the left[NS] and use BS 1363
> plugs and sockets instead of Schuko.
>
> [NS} Changing that would make the border interesting.
>
Its kinda shock to cross and notice that distances are miles and not
mmetres. 30mph is possible, 30kph is miserable, and seems to becoming
ore common. Cheers.

maus

On 2023-07-03, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 03/07/2023 09:46, maus wrote:
>> On 2023-07-03, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> On 03/07/2023 09:01, maus wrote:
>>>> I use news.individual.net, pay a small sum every year, and get a
>>>> satisfactory service.
>>>> BUT.
>>>>
>>>> Recently, slrn does not find that server. By trying lots of things,
>>>> after all thta is what hackers do, I discover that if I ping
>>>> www.google.com for a moment, immediatelly after slrn will connect to
>>>> individual net.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?. I know that if you have a mobile phone that wont find a
>>>> server in remote areas, if you make an emergency call, for a few moments
>>>> later, your mobile will get a server out.
>>>>
>>> Using Thunderguts, I occasionally find NIN drops off the scene, (Headers
>>> which I can't download the article for) but comes back after I restart
>>> the browser or my wifi connection. It's been like that for ages.
>>>
>>> I just accept it, after all, I doubt the news server is a major priority
>>> for the university that runs the main swerver.
>>>
>>
>> I must try thunder*. There was an notice at renewal time this years that
>> the service was only for the use of German taxpayers. US newsservers are
>> very expensive.
>
> Thunderbum is a newsreader not a server.
>
> Eternal September is a free (but you can donate) server, and pretty
> reliable.
>

I am finding it hard to reconfigure .slrnrc for eternal. I like slrn.
Make a mstake and correct it with C-g

On 03/07/2023 15:24, John Williamson wrote:
> On 03/07/2023 14:41, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 03/07/2023 09:46, maus wrote:
>
>> Thunderbum is a newsreader not a server.
>>
>> Eternal September is a free (but you can donate) server, and pretty
>> reliable.
>>
> Maus is using NIN, which is why he/she/it is moaning about paying ten
> EUzu per year for the service.

But he seems misinformed, or has grasped the wrong end of the stick
concerning Thunderpants.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 2023-07-03, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 03/07/2023 14:41, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 03/07/2023 09:46, maus wrote:
>
>> Thunderbum is a newsreader not a server.
>>
>> Eternal September is a free (but you can donate) server, and pretty
>> reliable.
>>
> Maus is using NIN, which is why he/she/it is moaning about paying ten
> EUzu per year for the service.

I am definately not moaning about the Euro 10 charge. Perhaps if it was
more, they could afford a constant watchman.
>

On 2023-07-03, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 03/07/2023 15:24, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 03/07/2023 14:41, RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 03/07/2023 09:46, maus wrote:
>>
>>> Thunderbum is a newsreader not a server.
>>>
>>> Eternal September is a free (but you can donate) server, and pretty
>>> reliable.
>>>
>> Maus is using NIN, which is why he/she/it is moaning about paying ten
>> EUzu per year for the service.
>
> But he seems misinformed, or has grasped the wrong end of the stick
> concerning Thunderpants.
>
My I-Ching reading is "difficulty at the beginning".

On 03/07/2023 15:51, maus wrote:
> On 2023-07-03, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 03/07/2023 15:24, John Williamson wrote:
>>> On 03/07/2023 14:41, RustyHinge wrote:
>>>> On 03/07/2023 09:46, maus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thunderbum is a newsreader not a server.
>>>>
>>>> Eternal September is a free (but you can donate) server, and pretty
>>>> reliable.
>>>>
>>> Maus is using NIN, which is why he/she/it is moaning about paying ten
>>> EUzu per year for the service.
>>
>> But he seems misinformed, or has grasped the wrong end of the stick
>> concerning Thunderpants.
>>
> My I-Ching reading is "difficulty at the beginning".

My I-Ching iscured by a thoroughly good scratching. (not pork)

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 03/07/2023 14:41, RustyHinge wrote:
> Thunderbum is a newsreader not a server.
>
> Eternal September is a free (but you can donate) server, and pretty
> reliable.
>
> --

Wot 'e said

Tone

On 03/07/2023 09:11, John Williamson wrote:

> Using Thunderguts, I occasionally find NIN drops off the scene,

IRTA "drops off the scone" and was well impressed with this new (to me)
phrase.

As you were.

Sam Plusnet said:
> On 03/07/2023 09:11, John Williamson wrote:
>
>> Using Thunderguts, I occasionally find NIN drops off the scene,
>
> IRTA "drops off the scone" and was well impressed with this new (to me)
> phrase.
>
> As you were.

Got sconed ?

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

In article <u7veqr$3q7g8$1@dont-email.me>, Richard Robinson
<richard@qualmograph.org.uk> on Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 21:33:15 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>Sam Plusnet said:
>> On 03/07/2023 09:11, John Williamson wrote:
>>
>>> Using Thunderguts, I occasionally find NIN drops off the scene,
>>
>> IRTA "drops off the scone" and was well impressed with this new (to me)
>> phrase.
>>
>> As you were.
>
>Got sconed ?
>
>
Did someone burn the scones?
--
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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 3 Jul 2023 08:01:34 GMT, maus <maus@darkstar.org> wrote:
> I use news.individual.net, pay a small sum every year, and get a
> satisfactory service.
> BUT.
>
> Recently, slrn does not find that server. By trying lots of things,
> after all thta is what hackers do, I discover that if I ping
> www.google.com for a moment, immediatelly after slrn will connect to
> individual net.
>
> Any ideas?.

Your dns is buggered.

Try setting up your newsreader to connect to:
130.133.4.11 rather than news.individual.net. So bypassing your
dns.

--
"I'm more interested in a world that works than what sells" — 
Paul MacCready, Founder AeroVironment

On 2023-07-07, Julian Macassey <julian@n6are.com> wrote:
> On 3 Jul 2023 08:01:34 GMT, maus <maus@darkstar.org> wrote:
>> I use news.individual.net, pay a small sum every year, and get a
>> satisfactory service.
>> BUT.
>>
>> Recently, slrn does not find that server. By trying lots of things,
>> after all thta is what hackers do, I discover that if I ping
>> www.google.com for a moment, immediatelly after slrn will connect to
>> individual net.
>>
>> Any ideas?.
>
> Your dns is buggered.
>
> Try setting up your newsreader to connect to:
> 130.133.4.11 rather than news.individual.net. So bypassing your
> dns.
>

Back working normally now, so panik over

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Boris, The Once and Future P.M.
Fe, Fi, Fo, Fum, I smell the stench of Influencers