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* Bad year for plums?David
+- Bad year for plums?David Rance
+- Bad year for plums?Clive Page
+* Bad year for plums?Polly@golly
|`* Bad year for plums?RJH
| `* Bad year for plums?David
|  `- Bad year for plums?RJH
`* Bad year for plums?Nick Maclaren
 `* Bad year for plums?The Natural Philosopher
  `* Bad year for plums?Janet
   `- Bad year for plums?Jenny M Benson

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 by: David - Mon, 12 Jun 2023 12:25 UTC

Both our plum trees have zero fruit.
I thought this was something to do with conditions in our garden but on a
local walk a plum tree in the verge which is usually a reliable cropper
seemed to have very few set fruit so it may not be just us.

East Anglia near the sea.

Has anyone else had a failed crop?

Cheers

Dave R

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Subject: Re: Bad year for plums?
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 by: David Rance - Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:09 UTC

On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 12:25:36 David wrote:

>Both our plum trees have zero fruit.
>I thought this was something to do with conditions in our garden but on a
>local walk a plum tree in the verge which is usually a reliable cropper
>seemed to have very few set fruit so it may not be just us.
>
>East Anglia near the sea.
>
>Has anyone else had a failed crop?

Doing well here in Berkshire (and in Normandy!) after several years of
doing very little.

David

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David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

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From: usenet@page2.eu (Clive Page)
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Subject: Re: Bad year for plums?
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 by: Clive Page - Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:23 UTC

On 12/06/2023 13:25, David wrote:
> Both our plum trees have zero fruit.
> I thought this was something to do with conditions in our garden but on a
> local walk a plum tree in the verge which is usually a reliable cropper
> seemed to have very few set fruit so it may not be just us.
>
> East Anglia near the sea.

We are in south Bedfordshire. One old plum, no idea what variety as it was here before we moved in, often has a very good crop, and this year was covered in quite a lot of blossom in the spring, but has relatively few plumlets developing.

We bought a Victoria Plum a few years ago which sometimes has a good crop, and this year had some blossom, but no small plums are visible anywhere. So it may be a rather poor year for plums in general.

--
Clive Page

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From: pwllgloyw@gmail.com (Polly@golly)
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Subject: Re: Bad year for plums?
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 by: Polly@golly - Mon, 12 Jun 2023 20:53 UTC

On 12/06/2023 13:25, David wrote:
> Both our plum trees have zero fruit.
> I thought this was something to do with conditions in our garden but on a
> local walk a plum tree in the verge which is usually a reliable cropper
> seemed to have very few set fruit so it may not be just us.
>
> East Anglia near the sea.
>
> Has anyone else had a failed crop?
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Dave R
>
>

Next door has a plum tree covered in little plums, BUT all the leaves
have turned brown, so the plums have started to drop - obviously a
problem with the tree, but no idea what. I have a victoria plum, about
4 years old, had no fruit since we bought it, but did see just a couple
of flowers, but theu don't seem to have pollinated!

In a very wet mid-Wales

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From: nmm@wheeler.UUCP (Nick Maclaren)
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Subject: Re: Bad year for plums?
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 by: Nick Maclaren - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:22 UTC

In article <keoh60Fm6l8U23@mid.individual.net>,
David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Both our plum trees have zero fruit.
>I thought this was something to do with conditions in our garden but on a
>local walk a plum tree in the verge which is usually a reliable cropper
>seemed to have very few set fruit so it may not be just us.
>
>East Anglia near the sea.
>
>Has anyone else had a failed crop?

I think so, but we had a late and hard frost. Did it reach you?
That's in Cambridge.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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 by: RJH - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 09:54 UTC

On 12 Jun 2023 at 21:53:34 BST, pwllgloyw@gmail.com wrote:

> On 12/06/2023 13:25, David wrote:
>> Both our plum trees have zero fruit.
>> I thought this was something to do with conditions in our garden but on a
>> local walk a plum tree in the verge which is usually a reliable cropper
>> seemed to have very few set fruit so it may not be just us.
>>
>> East Anglia near the sea.
>>
>> Has anyone else had a failed crop?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave R
>>
>>
>
> Next door has a plum tree covered in little plums, BUT all the leaves
> have turned brown, so the plums have started to drop - obviously a
> problem with the tree, but no idea what. I have a victoria plum, about
> 4 years old, had no fruit since we bought it, but did see just a couple
> of flowers, but theu don't seem to have pollinated!
>
> In a very wet mid-Wales

In Sheffield - newly planted 2 year old plum tree leafed, and all the leaves
turned brown last week. So I'd guess it's died.

4 other tress (cherry, pear and apple) planted at the same time all doing
fine.
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 11:26 UTC

On 13/06/2023 08:22, Nick Maclaren wrote:
> In article <keoh60Fm6l8U23@mid.individual.net>,
> David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Both our plum trees have zero fruit.
>> I thought this was something to do with conditions in our garden but on a
>> local walk a plum tree in the verge which is usually a reliable cropper
>> seemed to have very few set fruit so it may not be just us.
>>
>> East Anglia near the sea.
>>
>> Has anyone else had a failed crop?
>
> I think so, but we had a late and hard frost. Did it reach you?
> That's in Cambridge.
>
>
> Regards,
> Nick Maclaren.

My wild (green) plums are covered in crop - cant remember the species.
Mirabelle?

Haven't checked my gages yet or the bullace.

--
"In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is
true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

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Subject: Re: Bad year for plums?
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 by: Janet - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 08:58 UTC

My plum flowered well but nothing seems to have set. Not
many insects were flying at the time. Apples and cherry
flowered a bit later and have set fruit.

Janet

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 by: Jenny M Benson - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 09:36 UTC

On 14/06/2023 09:58, Janet wrote:
> My plum flowered well but nothing seems to have set. Not
> many insects were flying at the time. Apples and cherry
> flowered a bit later and have set fruit.

My experience also. Pear flowered very early when weather was dire and
no insects around. For various reasons didn't get to hand-pollinate as
suggested here and only ever saw one fruit which subsequently
disappeared. Apple, which had the sense to flower when the cold snap
ceased, is promising a good harvest.

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

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 by: David - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:12 UTC

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 09:54:52 +0000, RJH wrote:

> On 12 Jun 2023 at 21:53:34 BST, pwllgloyw@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On 12/06/2023 13:25, David wrote:
>>> Both our plum trees have zero fruit.
>>> I thought this was something to do with conditions in our garden but
>>> on a local walk a plum tree in the verge which is usually a reliable
>>> cropper seemed to have very few set fruit so it may not be just us.
>>>
>>> East Anglia near the sea.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else had a failed crop?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Next door has a plum tree covered in little plums, BUT all the leaves
>> have turned brown, so the plums have started to drop - obviously a
>> problem with the tree, but no idea what. I have a victoria plum, about
>> 4 years old, had no fruit since we bought it, but did see just a couple
>> of flowers, but theu don't seem to have pollinated!
>>
>> In a very wet mid-Wales
>
> In Sheffield - newly planted 2 year old plum tree leafed, and all the
> leaves turned brown last week. So I'd guess it's died.
>
> 4 other tress (cherry, pear and apple) planted at the same time all
> doing fine.

See my previous post about blossom wilt in plums.

The tree may not be dead, just having a bad year.

Cheers

Dave R

--
AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64

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 by: RJH - Thu, 15 Jun 2023 07:20 UTC

On 14 Jun 2023 at 19:12:35 BST, David wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 09:54:52 +0000, RJH wrote:
>
>> On 12 Jun 2023 at 21:53:34 BST, pwllgloyw@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/06/2023 13:25, David wrote:
>>>> Both our plum trees have zero fruit.
>>>> I thought this was something to do with conditions in our garden but
>>>> on a local walk a plum tree in the verge which is usually a reliable
>>>> cropper seemed to have very few set fruit so it may not be just us.
>>>>
>>>> East Anglia near the sea.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else had a failed crop?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave R
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Next door has a plum tree covered in little plums, BUT all the leaves
>>> have turned brown, so the plums have started to drop - obviously a
>>> problem with the tree, but no idea what. I have a victoria plum, about
>>> 4 years old, had no fruit since we bought it, but did see just a couple
>>> of flowers, but theu don't seem to have pollinated!
>>>
>>> In a very wet mid-Wales
>>
>> In Sheffield - newly planted 2 year old plum tree leafed, and all the
>> leaves turned brown last week. So I'd guess it's died.
>>
>> 4 other tress (cherry, pear and apple) planted at the same time all
>> doing fine.
>
> See my previous post about blossom wilt in plums.
>
> The tree may not be dead, just having a bad year.
>

Fingers crossed. It's still part of the watering regime.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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