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Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better

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Subject: Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better
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 by: Hamish Laws - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 12:22 UTC

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:23:34 PM UTC+10, Robert Henderson wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 11:16:21 AM UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 4:20:42 PM UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 15:43:36 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
> > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTHX328jTEQ
> > >
> > > Robert, he just looks like a fast-medium.
> > >
> > > Also: do you ALWAYS ignore inconvenient evidence? Are you going to entirely ignore the man himself saying "I know I will never be a 90-mile-per-hour bowler"?
> > >
> > > Richard
>
>
> I shall be going to the Mddx v Essex T20 on 8 June at Lords. If Cook is playing I will report back on his pace.
> Here is Cook's exceptional FC stat:s.
>
> FORMAT Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10 wm
> FC 66 116 10893 4729 238 7/23 12/65 19.86 2.60 45. 7 12 3
>

Must make McGrath a 100mph bowler

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Subject: Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better
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 by: Robert Henderson - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:19 UTC

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 12:10:54 PM UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
> On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 11:23:34 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
>
> > Here is Cook's exceptional FC stat:s.
> >
> > FORMAT Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10 wm
> > FC 66 116 10893 4729 238 7/23 12/65 19.86 2.60 45. 7 12 3
> Irrelevant to the discussion! RH

Yet more forgery by very PC Dixon.

The fact that Cook has such outstanding stats as an opening bowler is a strong pointer to being sharp in pace. RH

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Subject: Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better
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 by: Richard Dixon - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:56 UTC

On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 14:19:17 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:

> The fact that Cook has such outstanding stats as an opening bowler is a strong pointer to being sharp in pace. RH

....or that fact that county pitches are ideal for fast-medium bowlers in the UK and accuracy is likely as important as pace.

Richard

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Subject: Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better
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 by: Robert Henderson - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:59 UTC

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:56:05 PM UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
> On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 14:19:17 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
>
> > The fact that Cook has such outstanding stats as an opening bowler is a strong pointer to being sharp in pace. RH
> ...or that fact that county pitches are ideal for fast-medium bowlers in the UK and accuracy is likely as important as pace.
>
> Richard

If that was true there would be hordes of English (and indeed foreign bowlers working here) matching Cook's figures. RH

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Subject: Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better
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 by: Richard Dixon - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 14:53 UTC

On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 14:59:37 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:

> If that was true there would be hordes of English (and indeed foreign bowlers working here) matching Cook's figures. RH

In the last 5 years the 10 top wicket-taking county bowlers, not including Cook (who is in 10th place) are:

Rushworth, Abbott, Murtagh, Bailey, Raine, Sanderson, Robinson, Higgins, Porter, Abbas. Cook is 10th place in this list.

Cook's peers of the top wicket takers by *average* are Robinson, Abbas, Murtagh, Rushworth and Abbott (all under 20). One of these (Abbott) it could be argued can on occasions hit 90. If you think Robinson, Abbas, Murtagh and Rushworth can touch 90 then it's off to specsavers. So no, the outstanding performers are all 80 mph wobblers.

Richard

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Subject: Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better
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 by: Robert Henderson - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:29 UTC

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 3:53:30 PM UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
> On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 14:59:37 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
>
> > If that was true there would be hordes of English (and indeed foreign bowlers working here) matching Cook's figures. RH
> In the last 5 years the 10 top wicket-taking county bowlers, not including Cook (who is in 10th place) are:
>
> Rushworth, Abbott, Murtagh, Bailey, Raine, Sanderson, Robinson, Higgins, Porter, Abbas. Cook is 10th place in this list.
>
> Cook's peers of the top wicket takers by *average* are Robinson, Abbas, Murtagh, Rushworth and Abbott (all under 20). One of these (Abbott) it could be argued can on occasions hit 90. If you think Robinson, Abbas, Murtagh and Rushworth can touch 90 then it's off to specsavers. So no, the outstanding performers are all 80 mph wobblers.
>
> Richard

Show their full stats. Next! RH

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Subject: Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better
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 by: Richard Dixon - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 17:15 UTC

On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 17:29:29 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:

> Show their full stats. Next! RH

There you go, you rude oaf.

https://ibb.co/mcMGgZV

This will bring up an image with all their stats. And don't come bleating to me that you can open it, you know you can.

Richard

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 by: jack fredricks - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 21:38 UTC

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 11:59:37 PM UTC+10, Robert Henderson wrote:
> > ...or that fact that county pitches are ideal for fast-medium bowlers in the UK and accuracy is likely as important as pace.
> If that was true there would be hordes of English (and indeed foreign bowlers working here) matching Cook's figures. RH

Almost everything that comes out of your keyboard is drivel, but this take on CC has to be the dumbest thing you've ever said.

I'm 10k miles away, and in my life I've seen 0 CC matches in person and watched around 10 hours on TV... and *I* know more about CC than you do.

You are nothing but a sad parody, RH.

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 by: Robert Henderson - Thu, 8 Jun 2023 08:44 UTC

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 10:38:22 PM UTC+1, jack fredricks wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 11:59:37 PM UTC+10, Robert Henderson wrote:
> > > ...or that fact that county pitches are ideal for fast-medium bowlers in the UK and accuracy is likely as important as pace.
> > If that was true there would be hordes of English (and indeed foreign bowlers working here) matching Cook's figures. RH
> Almost everything that comes out of your keyboard is drivel, but this take on CC has to be the dumbest thing you've ever said.
>
> I'm 10k miles away, and in my life I've seen 0 CC matches in person and watched around 10 hours on TV... and *I* know more about CC than you do.
>
> You are nothing but a sad parody, RH.

Translation: A very sad fellow desperately attempts to hide his mediocrity RH

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Subject: Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better
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 by: Hamish Laws - Thu, 8 Jun 2023 13:58 UTC

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 6:44:47 PM UTC+10, Robert Henderson wrote:

>A very sad fellow desperately attempts to hide his mediocrity RH

and there we have a confession

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On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 14:58:39 UTC+1, Hamish Laws wrote:
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 6:44:47 PM UTC+10, Robert Henderson wrote:
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> >A very sad fellow desperately attempts to hide his mediocrity RH
> and there we have a confession

RH's gone very quiet on this thread, hasn't he: done a runner again.

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 by: Robert Henderson - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 11:00 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:29:23 AM UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
> On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 14:58:39 UTC+1, Hamish Laws wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 6:44:47 PM UTC+10, Robert Henderson wrote:
> >
> > >A very sad fellow desperately attempts to hide his mediocrity RH
> > and there we have a confession
> RH's gone very quiet on this thread, hasn't he: done a runner again.

You should be paying attention. I erroneously thought Middlesex v Essex were playing on Thursday just passed y but it was Middlesex v Sussex,. I have of course already posted the correction. Do try to keep up. RH

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Subject: Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better
From: najeebybo@gmail.com (Najeeb ybo)
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 by: Najeeb ybo - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 12:21 UTC

On Saturday, 10 June 2023 at 12:00:20 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:29:23 AM UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
> > On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 14:58:39 UTC+1, Hamish Laws wrote:
> > > On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 6:44:47 PM UTC+10, Robert Henderson wrote:
> > >
> > > >A very sad fellow desperately attempts to hide his mediocrity RH
> > > and there we have a confession
> > RH's gone very quiet on this thread, hasn't he: done a runner again.
> You should be paying attention. I erroneously thought Middlesex v Essex were playing on Thursday just passed y but it was Middlesex v Sussex,. I have of course already posted the correction. Do try to keep up. RH
>
>
Where did you post the correction of your mistake?

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Subject: Re: England stock bowlers pushing 90 mph or better
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 by: Robert Henderson - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 13:30 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:21:35 PM UTC+1, Najeeb ybo wrote:
> On Saturday, 10 June 2023 at 12:00:20 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:29:23 AM UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 14:58:39 UTC+1, Hamish Laws wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 6:44:47 PM UTC+10, Robert Henderson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >A very sad fellow desperately attempts to hide his mediocrity RH
> > > > and there we have a confession
> > > RH's gone very quiet on this thread, hasn't he: done a runner again.
> > You should be paying attention. I erroneously thought Middlesex v Essex were playing on Thursday just passed y but it was Middlesex v Sussex,. I have of course already posted the correction. Do try to keep up. RH
> >
> >
> Where did you post the correction of your mistake?

A T20 day at Lords Middlesex v Sussex

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