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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 19 May 2023 09:59 UTC

"Made the mistake of ordering bike components from the EU," Stan wrote on Twitter. "This government needs to be placed in the stocks and pelted with s*** with what they've done to EU trade," his conclusion...

He ordered from a German-based bicycle components website and was left with the not so charming cocktail of Customs Duty, Import VAT AND a Clearance Fee...

"People may be thinking 'don't order from the EU' but there are two points A) this used to be easy," he added. "B) these rules apply to ANYTHING you transport across the border. Technically you [could] be charged duty for putting your bikes on your car and travelling to France and back if customs decided you couldn't prove you already owned the bike."

https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/fwexe7twcae4pjk.jpg

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 19 May 2023 11:22 UTC

On 19/05/2023 10:59 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> "Made the mistake of ordering bike components from the EU," Stan wrote on Twitter. "This government needs to be placed in the stocks and pelted with s*** with what they've done to EU trade," his conclusion...
>
> He ordered from a German-based bicycle components website and was left with the not so charming cocktail of Customs Duty, Import VAT AND a Clearance Fee...

Incompetence on the part of the chav-cycle supplier.

I could order a £4000 musical instrument from thomann.de and have it
delivered to the UK with just the UK rate of VAT added, plus the obvious
charge for shipping and insurance.

But Thomann are professionals. The companies dealing with dodgy
chav-cycle spares are obviously not.

> "People may be thinking 'don't order from the EU'

Not all. Throw as much of your money down the drain as you like. See
whether I care.

> but there are two points A) this used to be easy,"

It still is if it's done right (see above).

> he added. "B) these rules apply to ANYTHING you transport across the border. Technically you [could] be charged duty for putting your bikes on your car and travelling to France and back if customs decided you couldn't prove you already owned the bike."

That has always been the rule for dutiable and VAT-susceptible goods and
articles.
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> https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/fwexe7twcae4pjk.jpg

I recently transported an expensive musical instrument to a relative in
the USA and wasn't even asked for a declaration at USA Border Control.
But not being a chav like you, I, of course, made a declaration unbidden
and got the issue of American customs duty and local taxes - $NIL in
this case because of the circumstances - sorted out.

Chavs are always looking for a dodgy back of the lorry "bargain",
though. Aren't you?

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 19 May 2023 11:30 UTC

On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 10:59:22 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> "Made the mistake of ordering bike components from the EU," Stan wrote on Twitter. "This government needs to be placed in the stocks and pelted with s*** with what they've done to EU trade," his conclusion...
>
> He ordered from a German-based bicycle components website and was left with the not so charming cocktail of Customs Duty, Import VAT AND a Clearance Fee...
>
> "People may be thinking 'don't order from the EU' but there are two points A) this used to be easy," he added. "B) these rules apply to ANYTHING you transport across the border. Technically you [could] be charged duty for putting your bikes on your car and travelling to France and back if customs decided you couldn't prove you already owned the bike."
>
> https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/fwexe7twcae4pjk.jpg

Thousands of UK businesses have gone bust due to charges like this.

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Dec 22 (Reuters) - More than three quarters of British companies have reported that the trade agreement between the European Union and Britain has made it difficult for them to increase sales and grow their business, a British Chambers of Commerce survey showed.

The survey of more than 1,168 businesses, which was published on Wednesday, showed significant challenges for UK firms trying to use the Trade and Co-operation Agreement (TCA) that was signed in 2020 to allow tariff-free trade with the European Union once Brexit took effect.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/brexit-deal-nightmare-small-businesses-survey-2022-12-22/

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 by: Spike - Fri, 19 May 2023 13:15 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 10:59:22 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> "Made the mistake of ordering bike components from the EU," Stan wrote
>> on Twitter. "This government needs to be placed in the stocks and pelted
>> with s*** with what they've done to EU trade," his conclusion...

>> He ordered from a German-based bicycle components website and was left
>> with the not so charming cocktail of Customs Duty, Import VAT AND a Clearance Fee...

>> "People may be thinking 'don't order from the EU' but there are two
>> points A) this used to be easy," he added. "B) these rules apply to
>> ANYTHING you transport across the border. Technically you [could] be
>> charged duty for putting your bikes on your car and travelling to France
>> and back if customs decided you couldn't prove you already owned the bike."

>> https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/fwexe7twcae4pjk.jpg

> Thousands of UK businesses have gone bust due to charges like this.

Isn’t it strange, therefore, that businesses in the EU, seem to be far less
affected by exactly the same set of rules?

There is a manufacturer of bicycles in Germany that exports to the UK
without problems, and even manages to sell their machines here at
pre-Brexit prices!

Now, as the arrangements are the same for both sides, why is it that the UK
businesses are snivelling and whining and going bust, while the EU get on
with things?

BTW, it was you yourself that posted the article regarding the German
bicycle manufacturer.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 19 May 2023 13:25 UTC

Mr Farage said he "doesn't think that for a moment" - and blamed the "failure" on the Conservative government's handling of Brexit.

He said: "We haven't benefited from Brexit economically when we could have done.

"What Brexit has proved, I'm afraid, is that our politicians are about as useless as the commissioners in Brussels were.

"We have mismanaged this totally."

He said the decision to increase corporation tax from 19% to 25% in April was "driving business away from our country" and that the UK government was "arguably... regulating our own businesses even more than they were as EU members".

"Brexit has failed," he added.

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 by: Spike - Fri, 19 May 2023 18:33 UTC

When all else fails, drag out Nigel Farage…

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mr Farage said he "doesn't think that for a moment" - and blamed the
> "failure" on the Conservative government's handling of Brexit.
>
> He said: "We haven't benefited from Brexit economically when we could have done.
>
> "What Brexit has proved, I'm afraid, is that our politicians are about as
> useless as the commissioners in Brussels were.
>
> "We have mismanaged this totally."
>
> He said the decision to increase corporation tax from 19% to 25% in April
> was "driving business away from our country" and that the UK government
> was "arguably... regulating our own businesses even more than they were as EU members".
>
> "Brexit has failed," he added.
>

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Any news of the mass exit from the EU yet?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwgwXmRWwAMpuFb?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any news of the mass exit from the EU yet?
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwgwXmRWwAMpuFb?format=jpg&name=medium
>

We were in the EU for just short of 50 years before people realised how bad
it was, so we have quite a way to go, say circa 2070, before comparisons
can be drawn.

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The reason for all those food shortages.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwg4qSwWIAUB2wW?format=jpg&name=900x900

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> The reason for all those food shortages.

> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwg4qSwWIAUB2wW?format=jpg&name=900x900

UK Food Supply For Dummies

Fact: the UK is unable to produce enough food to feed its population. This
was true in WWII when the population was 45m and every scrap of land that
could be was cultivated. The 5m tons per annum of supplies that was needed
to make up the shortfall was brought at considerable cost by the convoys
from the US and Canada.

Fact: Other European countries were and are not food short; they grow
surplus to export.

Question: When food supplies in Europe are decreased, which country
suffers; is it one of those who had a surplus at home, or the one that
needs to import in even in good times?

Your Starter For Ten: In which Century was the UK last in food surplus?

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A week after Noel Gallagher gave his scathing attack on Brexit, his Britpop rival, Damon Albarn, now weighs in on the disaster for his industry.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Britpop rival, Damon Albarn, now weighs in on the disaster for his industry.
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwhHVZrWICAKvQd?format=jpg&name=medium

Poor Diddums.

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Another swivel takes a pasting.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another swivel takes a pasting.
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwi-zs6WAAA1EnK?format=jpg&name=900x900

Get your Gammon swivels here:

<https://www.gammontechstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=GTP%2D1501%2E&CartID=0>

(Safe)

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On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 6:01:12 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
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>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwi-zs6WAAA1EnK?format=jpg&name=900x900

OH DEAR!

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 by: Spike - Sat, 20 May 2023 10:33 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 6:01:12 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Another swivel takes a pasting.
>>
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwi-zs6WAAA1EnK?format=jpg&name=900x900
>
> OH DEAR!

Apples and oranges.

> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwj1LH4X0AAnY1x?format=jpg&name=900x900

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sat, 20 May 2023 10:34 UTC

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 9:58:42 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> OH DEAR!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwkLDYOWYAEfYIG?format=jpg&name=medium

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sat, 20 May 2023 10:37 UTC

Anyone seen any of these yet?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwkKVfQXoAAbfpB?format=jpg&name=medium

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 by: Spike - Sat, 20 May 2023 13:32 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 9:58:42 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> OH DEAR!

> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwkLDYOWYAEfYIG?format=jpg&name=medium

I’ll respond to that with emoji, you just might get the point. Words don’t
seem to help you.

🇺🇦🇷🇺💥🦠

PS: Domestic energy prices are set to fall in the next few days.

What a shame it is that a major European war sent them soaring.

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 by: Spike - Sat, 20 May 2023 13:35 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone seen any of these yet?
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwkKVfQXoAAbfpB?format=jpg&name=medium
I’ll respond to that with emoji, you just might get the point. Words don’t
seem to help you.

🇺🇦🇷🇺💥🦠

PS: Domestic energy prices are set to fall in the next few days.

What a shame it is that a major European war sent them soaring.

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Shame about your water!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwlOh6cXoAMD_1v?format=jpg&name=small

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 by: Spike - Sat, 20 May 2023 16:44 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shame about your water!
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwlOh6cXoAMD_1v?format=jpg&name=small
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?

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No eggs and many other items at Tesco today despite having this.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwljrQ5XoAE6XMt?format=jpg&name=small

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 by: Spike - Sat, 20 May 2023 17:30 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> No eggs and many other items at Tesco today despite having this.
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwljrQ5XoAE6XMt?format=jpg&name=small

Shop somewhere better, you skinflint…🙄

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