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World cup fatigue

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 by: max.it - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 15:15 UTC

I like 50 overs cricket but I'd prefer the tournament to be a straight
knockout.

max.it

Re: World cup fatigue

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 by: mike - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 15:25 UTC

On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:15:08 PM UTC+1, max.it wrote:
> I like 50 overs cricket but I'd prefer the tournament to be a straight
> knockout.
>
> max.it

I disagree, i prefer this everyone plays everyone else format, plus it means
that even the teams who have lost both their 2 opening matches still have a chance.

As 4 fatigue, the players might agree with you after 6or 7 matches, but there are some pretty
big gaps. The main problem for the neutral is that so far though there hasnt been
a close match, in fact overwhelming victories have predominated.

mike

Re: World cup fatigue

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 by: max.it - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 17:06 UTC

On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 08:25:31 -0700 (PDT), mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:15:08?PM UTC+1, max.it wrote:
>> I like 50 overs cricket but I'd prefer the tournament to be a straight
>> knockout.
>>
>> max.it
>
>I disagree, i prefer this everyone plays everyone else format, plus it means
>that even the teams who have lost both their 2 opening matches still have a chance.
>
>As 4 fatigue, the players might agree with you after 6or 7 matches, but there are some pretty
>big gaps. The main problem for the neutral is that so far though there hasnt been
>a close match, in fact overwhelming victories have predominated.
>
>mike

I suppose I could just start watching during the knockout.

max.it

Re: World cup fatigue

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 by: John Hall - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 17:41 UTC

In message <5falii9fpd4uranh9cur2jcu0sdrkvhhqo@4ax.com>, max. it
<max@tea.time> writes
>
>I like 50 overs cricket but I'd prefer the tournament to be a straight
>knockout.
>
>max.it

That was never going to happen. It would have been possible - though not
very likely if they used a seeding system - for India to be knocked out
in the first round.
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

Re: World cup fatigue

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 by: FBInCIAnNSATerrorist - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 19:09 UTC

On 10/14/2023 8:15 AM, max.it wrote:
>
> I like 50 overs cricket but I'd prefer the tournament to be a straight
> knockout.
>
> max.it

You can watch ONLY stronger teams matches.

That way you won't feel bored or fatigued.

Re: World cup fatigue

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 by: David North - Sun, 15 Oct 2023 06:57 UTC

On 14/10/2023 18:41, John Hall wrote:
> In message <5falii9fpd4uranh9cur2jcu0sdrkvhhqo@4ax.com>, max. it
> <max@tea.time> writes
>>
>> I like 50 overs cricket but I'd prefer the tournament to be a straight
>> knockout.
>>
>> max.it
>
> That was never going to happen. It would have been possible - though not
> very likely if they used a seeding system - for India to be knocked out
> in the first round.

It would also have meant half of the teams travelling to India for one
competitive match.

I'd go for groups of 4, so that each teams gets at least 3 matches,
followed by a knockout. It's worked pretty well in the football World
Cup and Euros for the last 40 years.

What we have now is not what I think of as a cup tournament. It's a
league competition with a 4-team cup tournament tagged on at the end.

--
David North

Re: World cup fatigue

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 by: John Hall - Sun, 15 Oct 2023 07:25 UTC

In message <dhiliilulr8tuqjfeos7f71rcn65040k5c@4ax.com>, max. it
<max@tea.time> writes
>On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 08:25:31 -0700 (PDT), mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:15:08?PM UTC+1, max.it wrote:
>>> I like 50 overs cricket but I'd prefer the tournament to be a straight
>>> knockout.
>>>
>>> max.it
>>
>>I disagree, i prefer this everyone plays everyone else format, plus it means
>>that even the teams who have lost both their 2 opening matches still
>>have a chance.
>>
>>As 4 fatigue, the players might agree with you after 6or 7 matches,
>>but there are some pretty
>>big gaps. The main problem for the neutral is that so far though there
>>hasnt been
>>a close match, in fact overwhelming victories have predominated.
>>
>>mike
>
>
>I suppose I could just start watching during the knockout.
>
>max.it

Have you been watching every match? Perhaps you should be more selective
and just watch matches that seem likely to be important or exciting, and
avoid Bangladesh v Afghanistan and the like.
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

Re: World cup fatigue

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 by: FBInCIAnNSATerrorist - Sun, 15 Oct 2023 08:41 UTC

On 10/14/2023 11:57 PM, David North wrote:
> On 14/10/2023 18:41, John Hall wrote:
>> In message <5falii9fpd4uranh9cur2jcu0sdrkvhhqo@4ax.com>, max. it
>> <max@tea.time> writes
>>>
>>> I like 50 overs cricket but I'd prefer the tournament to be a straight
>>> knockout.
>>>
>>> max.it
>>
>> That was never going to happen. It would have been possible - though
>> not very likely if they used a seeding system - for India to be
>> knocked out in the first round.
>
> It would also have meant half of the teams travelling to India for one
> competitive match.
>
> I'd go for groups of 4, so that each teams gets at least 3 matches,
> followed by a knockout. It's worked pretty well in the football World
> Cup and Euros for the last 40 years.

Teams complained in the past that the World Cup winner NEVER played them
in the initial rounds in groups format.

Because 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3 in the SEMIS and then the winners played
the finals.

>
> What we have now is not what I think of as a cup tournament. It's a
> league competition with a 4-team cup tournament tagged on at the end.
>

Re: World cup fatigue

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 by: David North - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:36 UTC

On 15/10/2023 09:41, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> On 10/14/2023 11:57 PM, David North wrote:
>> On 14/10/2023 18:41, John Hall wrote:
>>> In message <5falii9fpd4uranh9cur2jcu0sdrkvhhqo@4ax.com>, max. it
>>> <max@tea.time> writes
>>>>
>>>> I like 50 overs cricket but I'd prefer the tournament to be a straight
>>>> knockout.
>>>>
>>>> max.it
>>>
>>> That was never going to happen. It would have been possible - though
>>> not very likely if they used a seeding system - for India to be
>>> knocked out in the first round.
>>
>> It would also have meant half of the teams travelling to India for one
>> competitive match.
>>
>> I'd go for groups of 4, so that each teams gets at least 3 matches,
>> followed by a knockout. It's worked pretty well in the football World
>> Cup and Euros for the last 40 years.
>
>
>
> Teams complained in the past that the World Cup winner NEVER played them
> in the initial rounds in groups format.

That's the first time I've heard that.

--
David North

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 by: David North - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 19:00 UTC

On 18/10/2023 19:36, David North wrote:
> On 15/10/2023 09:41, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
>> On 10/14/2023 11:57 PM, David North wrote:
>>> On 14/10/2023 18:41, John Hall wrote:
>>>> In message <5falii9fpd4uranh9cur2jcu0sdrkvhhqo@4ax.com>, max. it
>>>> <max@tea.time> writes
>>>>>
>>>>> I like 50 overs cricket but I'd prefer the tournament to be a straight
>>>>> knockout.
>>>>>
>>>>> max.it
>>>>
>>>> That was never going to happen. It would have been possible - though
>>>> not very likely if they used a seeding system - for India to be
>>>> knocked out in the first round.
>>>
>>> It would also have meant half of the teams travelling to India for
>>> one competitive match.
>>>
>>> I'd go for groups of 4, so that each teams gets at least 3 matches,
>>> followed by a knockout. It's worked pretty well in the football World
>>> Cup and Euros for the last 40 years.
>>
>>
>>
>> Teams complained in the past that the World Cup winner NEVER played
>> them in the initial rounds in groups format.
>
> That's the first time I've heard that.

If a team wanted to have played the winner, all they would have to do is
keep winning until they reached the final, and then lose, so any teams
that didn't play the winner would only have themselves to blame, because
they weren't good enough - unless they were the winner, in which case
they were too good!

--
David North

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