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by: max.it - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 10:05 UTC

On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 08:47:56 +0100, John Hall
<john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <3131783f-630b-4021-92a1-ace76eb917f6n@googlegroups.com>,
>Robert Henderson <anywhere156@gmail.com> writes
>>that "Baz Ball" would result in a loss of technique and mentality.
>>
>>The shamefully inept play by England in this 50 over WC is an example
>>of the loss of technique and mentality, especially in mentality. This
>>is unsurprising because the 50 over game is the closest in form to
>>red ball cricket and consequently is infected with the loss of
>>technique and mentality.
>>
>>RH
>
>The snag with this theory is that I very much doubt if the players from
>most of the other participating countries play any more 50-over cricket
>than the English players do. And the players from India and NZ, in
>particular, seem to have coped just fine.

No harm to Buttler, but as far as being captain he's about as bright
as a damp match in a wet cave.
This 'technique and mentality' nonsense is simply blaming the
environment for the inadequacies of the players.

The players follow the captain, he sets the bar. The effect of the
captain and his relationship with the coach on the entire team and
staff can't be underestimated.
It's time for a big England reset. I think all the same that things
will continue until the hands have finished shaking and the relevant
nods and winks have taken place. It's all a bit like the problems in
Irish cricket.

max.it

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by: Richard Dixon - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 12:50 UTC

On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 11:05:45 UTC+1, max.it wrote:

> >The snag with this theory is that I very much doubt if the players from
> >most of the other participating countries play any more 50-over cricket
> >than the English players do. And the players from India and NZ, in
> >particular, seem to have coped just fine.

I recall RH having a swing at England after we got a hiding from NZ, blaming modern T20 infiltrating the game and then I showed that man for man the players in the NZ team played far more T20 than England. As ever, scratch the surface with RH's theories and bluster and you find there's very little behind them.

Subject	Author
I did warn you ...	max.it
I did warn you ...	Richard Dixon