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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
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You conveniently forgot to include the 1.5m safety zone for the cyclists.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 9 Jun 2023 08:28 UTC

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 10:09:25 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyISof8X0Acklxg?format=jpg&name=small

Highway Code revised: Cyclists given priority in new rules as drivers ordered to keep 1.5-metres distance when overtaking

Cars must leave at least 1.5 metres room when passing bicycles - while revised guidance also says "it can be safer" for cyclists to ride two abreast.

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 by: Spike - Fri, 9 Jun 2023 09:09 UTC

Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyISof8X0Acklxg?format=jpg&name=small
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> You conveniently forgot to include the 1.5m safety zone for the cyclists.

A cyclist falsely claimed that “[The Highway Code] is silent on group
riding protocol”

Rule 66: Be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in
groups. You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly
in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders.
Be aware of drivers behind you, and allow them to overtake (e.g. by moving
into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so.

HTH

Interesting that untrained, untested, and unlicensed cyclists are allowed
to make judgements as to when it is safe to let drivers overtake.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 9 Jun 2023 09:56 UTC

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 10:09:25 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
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Under revised guidance cyclists will be given priority, and a hierarchy of road users will be introduced.

https://www.admiral.com/magazine/news/highway-code-revised-for-all-road-users

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 by: Brian - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:00 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 10:09:25 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyISof8X0Acklxg?format=jpg&name=small
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> Under revised guidance cyclists will be given priority, and a hierarchy
> of road users will be introduced.
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> https://www.admiral.com/magazine/news/highway-code-revised-for-all-road-users
>

Yet the pedestrian, on a pavement, placed in fear of her life by a cyclist
who should not have been there, was jailed when the cyclist lost control of
her bike causing her own death.

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 by: Simon Mason - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:03 UTC

Simply put, the hierarchy places those road users who are most at risk in the event of a collision at the top of a ‘scale’ or hierarchy. Pedestrians are at the top, because their lack of protection makes them extremely vulnerable in an incident. Next, we have cyclists, horse riders and motorcyclists. Below that we have car and van drivers, and at that leaves us with bus and lorry drivers at the bottom.

So far, so good. But there’s one more bit to understand – the lower you are in the hierarchy, the more harm you and your vehicle can cause. This means you have to be particularly careful around more vulnerable road users. At this point, you might think: ‘Surely motorists are already more mindful of pedestrians, cyclists, and other vulnerable road users, right?’

Well, of course, many people are mindful – just as many people drive sensibly and safely. But like all these things, there’s always room to improve. The new rules (also known as “H rules”) are designed to remind everyone who uses our roads how important it is to take responsibility for their own safety as well as the safety of others. In short, if we’re all looking after each other (and ourselves), then our roads should become safer places.
Where can I find the new rules?

Good question! You’ll be pleased to learn that you don’t have to look very far for them – they’re all at the front of the latest Highway Code.

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 by: Spike - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 21:44 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 10:09:25 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyISof8X0Acklxg?format=jpg&name=small

> Under revised guidance cyclists will be given priority, and a hierarchy
> of road users will be introduced.

> https://www.admiral.com/magazine/news/highway-code-revised-for-all-road-users

When is this to be brought in, then?

🙄

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 11 Jun 2023 05:32 UTC

Hierarchy of road users – undoubtedly the biggest change to the Highway Code is the new hierarchy of road users. The idea is that those who are deemed most vulnerable, or at risk, on the roads are placed at the very top of the hierarchy. The government deems pedestrians, cyclists, horse riders and motorcyclists as the most likely to be injured from an accident, and so this is the order of the hierarchy. It means that those in cars, vans and other vehicles now have a ‘greater responsibility’ to protect these vulnerable people when on the road.

Giving way and crossing the road – the updated Highway Code clarifies a number of points on giving way and crossing the road. Firstly, it states that when people are crossing the road, or waiting to cross at a junction, traffic should give way. If people have already begun crossing, and traffic is looking to turn into the road, the pedestrian always has the priority. And finally, all road users must give way to people on zebra and parallel crossings.

Cyclists’ position on the road – more guidance has been offered in regards to how cyclists should position themselves when on the road. When cycling alone, they’re advised to position themselves in the centre of the road when it’s quiet, in slow-moving traffic, at junctions or on narrow roads. When cycling in a group, they’re advised to ride two abreast as it’s safer to do so.

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 by: Mike Collins - Sun, 11 Jun 2023 07:03 UTC

On Saturday, 10 June 2023 at 21:00:37 UTC+1, Brian wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 10:09:25 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyISof8X0Acklxg?format=jpg&name=small
> >
> > Under revised guidance cyclists will be given priority, and a hierarchy
> > of road users will be introduced.
> >
> > https://www.admiral.com/magazine/news/highway-code-revised-for-all-road-users
> >
> Yet the pedestrian, on a pavement, placed in fear of her life by a cyclist
> who should not have been there, was jailed when the cyclist lost control of
> her bike causing her own death.

According to Spike pedestrians are untrained, untaxed and unlicensed.

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A cyclist falsely claimed that “[The Highway Code] is silent on group
riding protocol”

Rule 66: Be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in
groups. You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly
in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders.
Be aware of drivers behind you, and allow them to overtake (e.g. by moving
into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so.

“….or stopping…” Some hopes!!!

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hierarchy of road users – undoubtedly the biggest change to the
> Highway Code is the new hierarchy of road users. The idea is that those
> who are deemed most vulnerable, or at risk, on the roads are placed at
> the very top of the hierarchy. The government deems pedestrians,
> cyclists, horse riders and motorcyclists as the most likely to be injured
> from an accident, and so this is the order of the hierarchy. It means
> that those in cars, vans and other vehicles now have a ‘greater
> responsibility’ to protect these vulnerable people when on the road.
>
> Giving way and crossing the road – the updated Highway Code clarifies
> a number of points on giving way and crossing the road. Firstly, it
> states that when people are crossing the road, or waiting to cross at a
> junction, traffic should give way. If people have already begun crossing,
> and traffic is looking to turn into the road, the pedestrian always has
> the priority. And finally, all road users must give way to people on
> zebra and parallel crossings.
>
> Cyclists’ position on the road – more guidance has been offered in
> regards to how cyclists should position themselves when on the road. When
> cycling alone, they’re advised to position themselves in the centre of
> the road when it’s quiet, in slow-moving traffic, at junctions or on
> narrow roads. When cycling in a group, they’re advised to ride two
> abreast as it’s safer to do so.
>

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Spike

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 11 Jun 2023 09:36 UTC

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 8:03:43 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

> According to Spike pedestrians are untrained, untaxed and unlicensed.

Spike who? The one in my killfile with the "Nugent" entity?

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 by: Mike Collins - Sun, 11 Jun 2023 15:29 UTC

On Sunday, 11 June 2023 at 10:36:03 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 8:03:43 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > According to Spike pedestrians are untrained, untaxed and unlicensed.
> Spike who? The one in my killfile with the "Nugent" entity?

They are the same 'person'. ECT is not an exact science.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 11 Jun 2023 15:41 UTC

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 4:29:27 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 11 June 2023 at 10:36:03 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 8:03:43 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
> >
> > > According to Spike pedestrians are untrained, untaxed and unlicensed.
> > Spike who? The one in my killfile with the "Nugent" entity?
> They are the same 'person'. ECT is not an exact science.

They'll never beat "Judith's" 250 sockpuppets.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 11 Jun 2023 15:41 UTC

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, 11 June 2023 at 10:36:03 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 8:03:43 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
>>
>>> According to Spike pedestrians are untrained, untaxed and unlicensed.
>> Spike who? The one in my killfile with the "Nugent" entity?
>
> They are the same 'person'. ECT is not an exact science.

Neither is the fabulous ‘Google groups kill file’.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 11 Jun 2023 15:51 UTC

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 4:41:20 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 4:29:27 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 11 June 2023 at 10:36:03 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 8:03:43 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
> > >
> > > > According to Spike pedestrians are untrained, untaxed and unlicensed.
> > > Spike who? The one in my killfile with the "Nugent" entity?
> > They are the same 'person'. ECT is not an exact science.
> They'll never beat "Judith's" 250 sockpuppets.

Marie
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On 08/06/2023 10:27 pm, Spike wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyISof8X0Acklxg?format=jpg&name=small
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> You conveniently forgot to include the 1.5m safety zone for the cyclists...

....each.

Oddly, they (chav-cyclists) *never* allow that 1.5m "safety" zone when
passing vehicles when stopped at traffic lights, etc.

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On 10/06/2023 09:03 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

> Simply put, the hierarchy places those road users who are most at risk in the event of a collision at the top of a ‘scale’ or hierarchy. Pedestrians are at the top, because their lack of protection makes them extremely vulnerable in an incident witha chav-cyclist on a footway. Next, we have chav-cyclists, horse riders and motorcyclists. Below that we have car and van drivers, and at that leaves us with bus and lorry drivers at the bottom.
>
> So far, so good. But there’s one more bit to understand – the lower you are in the hierarchy, the more harm you and your vehicle can cause. This means you have to be particularly careful around more vulnerable road users. At this point, you might think: ‘Surely motorists are already more mindful of pedestrians, chav-cyclists, and other vulnerable road users, right?’
>
> Well, of course, many people are mindful – just as many people drive sensibly and safely. But like all these things, there’s always room to improve. The new rules (also known as “H rules”) are designed to remind everyone who uses our roads how important it is to take responsibility for their own safety as well as the safety of others. In short, if we’re all looking after each other (and ourselves), then our roads should become safer places.
> Where can I find the new rules?
>
> Good question! You’ll be pleased to learn that you don’t have to look very far for them – they’re all at the front of the latest Highway Code.
>

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Hypocrites united in action.

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A cyclist falsely claimed that “[The Highway Code] is silent on group
riding protocol”

Rule 66: Be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in
groups. You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly
in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders.
Be aware of drivers behind you, and allow them to overtake (e.g. by moving
into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so.

“….or stopping…” Some hopes!!!

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 11 Jun 2023 17:49 UTC

Hypocrites united in action.

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 by: JNugent - Mon, 12 Jun 2023 00:22 UTC

On 11/06/2023 10:36 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 8:03:43 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
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>> According to Spike pedestrians are untrained, untaxed and unlicensed.
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> Spike who? The one in my killfile with the "Nugent" entity?

The ones whose posts you keep answering repeatedly, you mean?

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Mon, 12 Jun 2023 06:22 UTC

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 8:03:43 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

> According to Spike pedestrians are untrained, untaxed and unlicensed.

Sounds like a pound shop Mr Arsehole.

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