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* 100 in both inningsmiked
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 by: miked - Mon, 25 Mar 2024 22:21 UTC

Not just 100 in both innings of a test, but 2 batters in the same team doing it in
the same test and the same 2 batters! De Silva and mendis. Happened before?

mike

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 by: John Hall - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 09:46 UTC

In message <6ed4ba511d8c27578ae237542a41b0d6@www.novabbs.com>, miked
<dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>Not just 100 in both innings of a test, but 2 batters in the same team
>doing it in
>the same test and the same 2 batters! De Silva and mendis. Happened before?
>
>mike

I'd be very surprised if it has.
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 by: Mad Hamish - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 11:26 UTC

On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 22:21:19 +0000, dmike204@yahoo.co.uk (miked)
wrote:

>Not just 100 in both innings of a test, but 2 batters in the same team doing it in
>the same test and the same 2 batters! De Silva and mendis. Happened before?
>
Greg and Ian Chappel both made 100s in both innings against NZ at
Wellington on 1-3-1974
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-new-zealand-1973-74-61411/new-zealand-vs-australia-1st-test-63122/full-scorecard

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 by: dnorth - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 13:23 UTC

Mad Hamish wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 22:21:19 +0000, dmike204@yahoo.co.uk (miked)
> wrote:

>>Not just 100 in both innings of a test, but 2 batters in the same team doing it in
>>the same test and the same 2 batters! De Silva and mendis. Happened before?
>>
> Greg and Ian Chappel both made 100s in both innings against NZ at
> Wellington on 1-3-1974
> https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-new-zealand-1973-74-61411/new-zealand-vs-australia-1st-test-63122/full-scorecard

The only other instance was Azhar Ali and Misbah-ul-Haq v Aus at Abu Dhabi in 2014/15

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-united-arab-emirates-2014-15-727905/australia-vs-pakistan-2nd-test-727929/full-scorecard

There have been 3 instances of one player on each side doing it:

Denis Compton and Arthur Morris, Adelaide 1946/47
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-tour-of-australia-1946-47-61731/australia-vs-england-4th-test-62668/full-scorecard

Asanka Gurusinha and Andrew Jones, Hamilton 1990/91
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/sri-lanka-tour-of-new-zealand-1990-91-61624/new-zealand-vs-sri-lanka-2nd-test-63550/full-scorecard

David Warner and Virat Kohli, Adelaide 2014/15
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/border-gavaskar-trophy-2014-15-754713/australia-vs-india-1st-test-754737/full-scorecard

What is unique about the latest instance is that de Silva and Mendis were the only two players to make centuries in the match; in all 5 of the other matches above, at least one other player made one.

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 by: miked - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 22:34 UTC

dnorth wrote:

> Mad Hamish wrote:

>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 22:21:19 +0000, dmike204@yahoo.co.uk (miked)
>> wrote:

>>>Not just 100 in both innings of a test, but 2 batters in the same team doing it in
>>>the same test and the same 2 batters! De Silva and mendis. Happened before?
>>>
>> Greg and Ian Chappel both made 100s in both innings against NZ at
>> Wellington on 1-3-1974
>> https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-new-zealand-1973-74-61411/new-zealand-vs-australia-1st-test-63122/full-scorecard

> The only other instance was Azhar Ali and Misbah-ul-Haq v Aus at Abu Dhabi in 2014/15

> https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-united-arab-emirates-2014-15-727905/australia-vs-pakistan-2nd-test-727929/full-scorecard

i thought it had happened before and should have remembered the chappels - is that the only
case of brothers scoring 100 in each innings of FC match?

i remember alec stewart doing the double against the windies in barbados but now i've
found the relevant wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cricketers_who_have_scored_centuries_in_both_innings_of_a_Test_match
i was surprised that i had completly forgotten that both vaughan and tresco did it against the
windies in 2004

mike

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 by: David North - Wed, 27 Mar 2024 06:57 UTC

On 26/03/2024 22:34, miked wrote:
> dnorth wrote:
>
>> Mad Hamish wrote:
>
>>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 22:21:19 +0000, dmike204@yahoo.co.uk (miked)
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> Not just 100 in both innings of a test, but 2 batters in the same
>>>> team doing it in
>>>> the same test and the same 2 batters! De Silva and mendis. Happened
>>>> before?
>>>>
>>> Greg and Ian Chappel both made 100s in both innings against NZ at
>>> Wellington on 1-3-1974
>>> https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-new-zealand-1973-74-61411/new-zealand-vs-australia-1st-test-63122/full-scorecard
>
>> The only other instance was Azhar Ali and Misbah-ul-Haq v Aus at Abu
>> Dhabi in 2014/15
>
>> https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-united-arab-emirates-2014-15-727905/australia-vs-pakistan-2nd-test-727929/full-scorecard
>
>
> i thought it had happened before and should have remembered the chappels
> - is that the only
> case of brothers scoring 100 in each innings of FC match?

No. Tip and Wilfrid Foster did it for Worcs v Hants at New Road in 1899.
I don't know if there are any other cases.

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 by: David North - Wed, 27 Mar 2024 08:00 UTC

On 27/03/2024 06:57, David North wrote:
> On 26/03/2024 22:34, miked wrote:
>> dnorth wrote:
>>
>>> Mad Hamish wrote:
>>
>>>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 22:21:19 +0000, dmike204@yahoo.co.uk (miked)
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Not just 100 in both innings of a test, but 2 batters in the same
>>>>> team doing it in
>>>>> the same test and the same 2 batters! De Silva and mendis. Happened
>>>>> before?
>>>>>
>>>> Greg and Ian Chappel both made 100s in both innings against NZ at
>>>> Wellington on 1-3-1974
>>>> https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-new-zealand-1973-74-61411/new-zealand-vs-australia-1st-test-63122/full-scorecard
>>
>>> The only other instance was Azhar Ali and Misbah-ul-Haq v Aus at Abu
>>> Dhabi in 2014/15
>>
>>> https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-united-arab-emirates-2014-15-727905/australia-vs-pakistan-2nd-test-727929/full-scorecard
>>
>>
>> i thought it had happened before and should have remembered the
>> chappels - is that the only
>> case of brothers scoring 100 in each innings of FC match?
>
> No. Tip and Wilfrid Foster did it for Worcs v Hants at New Road in 1899.
> I don't know if there are any other cases.

I have confirmed that that is the only other case. It was actually the
first case of two players making twin 100s in the same FC match.

The only other cases for the same side in FC matches are:

Cec Dacre and Wally Hammond, Glos v Worcs, New Road, 1933
Jack Badcock and Ron Hamence, S Aus v Vic, MCG, 1940/41
Uday Merchant and Dattu Phadkar, Bombay v Maharashtra, Poona, 1948/49
(when Madhusudan Rege also made 2 100s for Maharashtra)
Regis Chakabva and Malcolm Waller, Zim A v Ireland, Harare, 2015/16

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 by: miked - Wed, 27 Mar 2024 22:09 UTC

David North wrote:

> On 27/03/2024 06:57, David North wrote:
>> On 26/03/2024 22:34, miked wrote:
>>> dnorth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mad Hamish wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 22:21:19 +0000, dmike204@yahoo.co.uk (miked)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Not just 100 in both innings of a test, but 2 batters in the same
>>>>>> team doing it in
>>>>>> the same test and the same 2 batters! De Silva and mendis. Happened
>>>>>> before?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Greg and Ian Chappel both made 100s in both innings against NZ at
>>>>> Wellington on 1-3-1974
>>>>> https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-new-zealand-1973-74-61411/new-zealand-vs-australia-1st-test-63122/full-scorecard
>>>
>>>> The only other instance was Azhar Ali and Misbah-ul-Haq v Aus at Abu
>>>> Dhabi in 2014/15
>>>
>>>> https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-united-arab-emirates-2014-15-727905/australia-vs-pakistan-2nd-test-727929/full-scorecard
>>>
>>>
>>> i thought it had happened before and should have remembered the
>>> chappels - is that the only
>>> case of brothers scoring 100 in each innings of FC match?
>>
>> No. Tip and Wilfrid Foster did it for Worcs v Hants at New Road in 1899.
>> I don't know if there are any other cases.

> I have confirmed that that is the only other case. It was actually the
> first case of two players making twin 100s in the same FC match.

> The only other cases for the same side in FC matches are:

> Cec Dacre and Wally Hammond, Glos v Worcs, New Road, 1933
> Jack Badcock and Ron Hamence, S Aus v Vic, MCG, 1940/41
> Uday Merchant and Dattu Phadkar, Bombay v Maharashtra, Poona, 1948/49
> (when Madhusudan Rege also made 2 100s for Maharashtra)
> Regis Chakabva and Malcolm Waller, Zim A v Ireland, Harare, 2015/16

thanks very much.
i spose given his test average of nearly 100, its slightly surprising that
bradman only made a 100 in both innings just the once in tests and that
in the last year of his career.

mike

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 by: John Hall - Thu, 28 Mar 2024 08:27 UTC

In message <52b9ed9c80390c44d0e1e66574c75cab@www.novabbs.com>, miked
<dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>thanks very much. i spose given his test average of nearly 100, its
>slightly surprising that
>bradman only made a 100 in both innings just the once in tests and that
>in the last year of his career.

Perhaps his second innings opportunities to make a big score were
limited by often having made 200+ in the first innings?
--
John Hall
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from coughing."
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 by: David North - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 10:48 UTC

On 28/03/2024 08:27, John Hall wrote:
> In message <52b9ed9c80390c44d0e1e66574c75cab@www.novabbs.com>, miked
> <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>> thanks very much. i spose given his test average of nearly 100, its
>> slightly surprising that
>> bradman only made a 100 in both innings just the once in tests and that
>> in the last year of his career.
>
> Perhaps his second innings opportunities to make a big score were
> limited by often having made 200+ in the first innings?

Yes, out of 19 matches when he scored a century in the first innings:

12 times Australia only batted once
Once Australia won by 10 wickets, so he didn't bat in the 2nd innings
Once he finished on 37* in a 5-wicket win after Australia used 2
nightwatchmen to open the innings.
3 times when he did bat and was out, Australia needed too few runs
anyway (72, 105 and 98).

That leaves just 2 matches in which he had a realistic chance of a 2nd
century:

The Oval 1934, when he was top-scorer with 77.
Melbourne 1947/48 v India, when he made 127*.

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David North

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