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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 11:46 UTC

A Paisley mum thinks the man that mowed down her 15-year-old son on his bike should have been given a jail sentence.

Dangerous Abdul Ibrahami pursued the teenage cyclist in a Volkswagen Touran “at speed” on April 16 last year in Paisley’s George Street.

Paisley Sheriff Court was previously shown CCTV footage which captured the horrific incident.

The footage shows the 31-year-old leave his takeaway shop in the town’s High Street and get into his car where he drives through a give way junction without giving way to other road users.

Out of control, Ibrahami then mounts the pavement in a pedestrianised area of George Street and strikes the boy on his bike. Ibrahami, of Caledonia Road in Glasgow, is then seen to seize the boy and shout at him.

Shouting and swearing can be heard on the CCTV and it also shows a member of the public stopping at the scene in their car.

Ibrahami admitted to assaulting the child by pursuing him at speed and striking him with the vehicle to his injury.

Sheriff Eoin McGinty slammed the Fazil King takeaway owner, stating: “It is extremely fortunate the boy wasn’t seriously injured or worse.

“Had he been, you’d be standing in a much higher court than this and the only question would be how many years you’d be serving, and that would likely be double figures.”

Sheriff McGinty imposed a “direct alternative to custody” ordering Ibrahami to carry out community service, banned him from driving and imposed a hefty fine.

But the 15-year-old’s mother feels the sentence was too lenient. Speaking after the sentencing, she told the Paisley Daily Express: “He should have been jailed.

“Just because he didn’t kill my son doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be given jail. This could have been so much worse than it was but thankfully it wasn’t.”

The Paisley mum also told how the horrific incident has impacted her son. She added: “That man mounted the pavement and mowed down my son. He didn’t know what he could have done to my son.

“My son was cycling for his life at that point as he chased him down that street and since then he’s not been on his bike. He has anxiety about it now and knows that on that day, that man could have killed him..

“After hitting him, Ibrahami got out of his car and was shouting and swearing at him. It’s terrifying to think what could have happened. He deserved to go to jail. But it is a relief he’s now banned from driving.”

Defence agent Mr Rose stated: “Mr Ibrahami has been blighted by low-level harassment and on this day, he accepts his frustrations caused him to act in this way. He also knows that doesn’t justify the conduct he became involved in.”

On sentencing, Sheriff McGinty said: “This is an offence that was aggravated in every way possible.

“You deliberately got in your car, you deliberately chased the boys, you deliberately mounted the pavement and you deliberately struck the boy with your car.”

Ibrahami, was ordered to carry out 200 hours of unpaid work in the community, was placed under supervision of the social work department for 12 months and was banned from driving for 16 months.

In addition, Ibrahami was fined £1,040 and ordered to pay that in £100 monthly instalments.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/in-your-area/renfrewshire/paisley-mum-slams-sentence-driver-30483162

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On 18/07/2023 12:46 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> A Paisley mum thinks the man that mowed down her 15-year-old son on his bike should have been given a jail sentence.
> Dangerous Abdul Ibrahami pursued the teenage cyclist in a Volkswagen Touran “at speed” on April 16 last year in Paisley’s George Street.
> Paisley Sheriff Court was previously shown CCTV footage which captured the horrific incident.
> The footage shows the 31-year-old leave his takeaway shop in the town’s High Street and get into his car where he drives through a give way junction without giving way to other road users.
> Out of control, Ibrahami then mounts the pavement in a pedestrianised area of George Street and strikes the boy on his bike. Ibrahami, of Caledonia Road in Glasgow, is then seen to seize the boy and shout at him.
> Shouting and swearing can be heard on the CCTV and it also shows a member of the public stopping at the scene in their car.
> Ibrahami admitted to assaulting the child by pursuing him at speed and striking him with the vehicle to his injury.
> Sheriff Eoin McGinty slammed the Fazil King takeaway owner, stating: “It is extremely fortunate the boy wasn’t seriously injured or worse.
> “Had he been, you’d be standing in a much higher court than this and the only question would be how many years you’d be serving, and that would likely be double figures.”
> Sheriff McGinty imposed a “direct alternative to custody” ordering Ibrahami to carry out community service, banned him from driving and imposed a hefty fine.
> But the 15-year-old’s mother feels the sentence was too lenient. Speaking after the sentencing, she told the Paisley Daily Express: “He should have been jailed.

On this occasion - and admittedly, judging by the report - it's hard to
disagree.
>
> “Just because he didn’t kill my son doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be given jail. This could have been so much worse than it was but thankfully it wasn’t.”
> The Paisley mum also told how the horrific incident has impacted her son. She added: “That man mounted the pavement and mowed down my son. He didn’t know what he could have done to my son.
> “My son was cycling for his life at that point as he chased him down that street and since then he’s not been on his bike. He has anxiety about it now and knows that on that day, that man could have killed him.
> “After hitting him, Ibrahami got out of his car and was shouting and swearing at him. It’s terrifying to think what could have happened. He deserved to go to jail. But it is a relief he’s now banned from driving.”
> Defence agent Mr Rose stated: “Mr Ibrahami has been blighted by low-level harassment and on this day, he accepts his frustrations caused him to act in this way. He also knows that doesn’t justify the conduct he became involved in.”

So what happened?
>
> On sentencing, Sheriff McGinty said: “This is an offence that was aggravated in every way possible.
> “You deliberately got in your car, you deliberately chased the boys, you deliberately mounted the pavement and you deliberately struck the boy with your car.”
> Ibrahami, was ordered to carry out 200 hours of unpaid work in the community, was placed under supervision of the social work department for 12 months and was banned from driving for 16 months.
> In addition, Ibrahami was fined £1,040 and ordered to pay that in £100 monthly instalments.
> https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/in-your-area/renfrewshire/paisley-mum-slams-sentence-driver-30483162

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QUOTE: Out of control, Ibrahami then mounts the pavement in a pedestrianised area of George Street and strikes the boy on his bike. Ibrahami, of Caledonia Road in Glasgow, is then seen to seize the boy and shout at him.ENDS

We are always told that drivers of cars never mount the pavement and definitely NOT in "pedestrianised areas".
No Siree.

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 by: Spike - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:11 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> QUOTE: Out of control, Ibrahami then mounts the pavement in a
> pedestrianised area of George Street and strikes the boy on his bike.
> Ibrahami, of Caledonia Road in Glasgow, is then seen to seize the boy and shout at him.ENDS
>
> We are always told that drivers of cars never mount the pavement and
> definitely NOT in "pedestrianised areas".
> No Siree.
You seem to be saying that the boy was cycling where he shouldn’t.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:57 UTC

On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 4:01:10 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> QUOTE: Out of control, Ibrahami then mounts the pavement in a pedestrianised area of George Street and strikes the boy on his bike. Ibrahami, of Caledonia Road in Glasgow, is then seen to seize the boy and shout at him.ENDS
>
> We are always told that drivers of cars never mount the pavement and definitely NOT in "pedestrianised areas".
> No Siree.

Seems I was wrong:

https://www.hertford.net/local-news/userfiles/images/2022/green_street_pedestrian_zone_sign1280x720.JPG

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 by: Spike - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 17:28 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 4:01:10 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> QUOTE: Out of control, Ibrahami then mounts the pavement in a
>> pedestrianised area of George Street and strikes the boy on his bike.
>> Ibrahami, of Caledonia Road in Glasgow, is then seen to seize the boy
>> and shout at him.ENDS
>>
>> We are always told that drivers of cars never mount the pavement and
>> definitely NOT in "pedestrianised areas".
>> No Siree.
>
> Seems I was wrong:
>
> https://www.hertford.net/local-news/userfiles/images/2022/green_street_pedestrian_zone_sign1280x720.JPG

I think you’re conflating Green Street and George Street.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 17:34 UTC

REMEMBER THE HIGHWAY CODE?
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This sign indicates a full-time pedestrian zone, where motor vehicles and motorbikes are banned, except when loading and unloading. Waiting is not allowed at any time.

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REMEMBER THE HIGHWAY CODE?
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This sign indicates a full-time pedestrian zone, where motor vehicles and motorbikes are banned.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/01/26/00/66978737-0-image-a-19_1674692620813.jpg

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> REMEMBER THE HIGHWAY CODE?
> =========================================
> This sign indicates a full-time pedestrian zone, where motor vehicles and
> motorbikes are banned.
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> https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/01/26/00/66978737-0-image-a-19_1674692620813.jpg

How’s the Pedestrian Priority working out?

It doesn’t have much success, where cyclists are concerned.

Perhaps they ought to read the Highway Code…

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> QUOTE: Ibrahami admitted to assaulting the child by pursuing him at speed
> and striking him with the vehicle to cause his injury. ENDS
>
> GOOD JOB THE JAILS ARE FULL THEN, YOU LITTLE TWAT, EH?

You seem to be fully occupied in casting the first stone.

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QUOTE: Sheriff Eoin McGinty slammed the Fazil King takeaway owner, stating: “It is extremely fortunate the boy wasn’t seriously injured or worse.

“Had he been, you’d be standing in a much higher court than this and the only question would be how many years you’d be serving, and that would likely be double figures.” ENDS

A *minimum* OF TEN YEARS?
THAT'S MORE LIKE IT!

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> QUOTE: Sheriff Eoin McGinty slammed the Fazil King takeaway owner,
> stating: “It is extremely fortunate the boy wasn’t seriously injured or worse.
>
> “Had he been, you’d be standing in a much higher court than this and the
> only question would be how many years you’d be serving, and that would
> likely be double figures.” ENDS
>
> A *minimum* OF TEN YEARS?
> THAT'S MORE LIKE IT!

Ten years for supposition? Note all the times ‘would be’ was used.

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QUOTE: The footage shows the 31-year-old leave his takeaway shop in the town’s High Street and get into his car where he drives through a give way junction without giving way to other road users. ENDS

They only give way to lorries and buses as they will get badly hurt - stuff the law.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> QUOTE: The footage shows the 31-year-old leave his takeaway shop in the
> town’s High Street and get into his car where he drives through a give
> way junction without giving way to other road users. ENDS
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> They only give way to lorries and buses as they will get badly hurt - stuff the law.

Stuff the law? He should take up cycling. He’d fit right in.
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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> QUOTE: Shouting and swearing can be heard on the CCTV and it also shows a
> member of the public stopping at the scene in their car. ENDS
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> Ah - it doesn't take long for the true nature of the chavvy foul-mouthed driver to emerge.

Q: What vehicle was being used when the operator shouted “Get out of the
f*****g way, I’m not stopping!” before killing them?

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QUOTE: In addition, Ibrahami was fined £1,040 and ordered to pay that in £100 monthly instalments. ENDS

Who gets the spare £60 change?

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