On 22-Apr-24 12:48, Soup wrote:
> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>
>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>
>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>
> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>
> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
> standard tea, or some-at else? .

Flat White Espresso, obv.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 2024-04-22, Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:
> On 22/04/2024 at 13:03, Simon wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:48:48 +0100, Soup wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>>>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>>>
>>>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>>>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>>>
>>> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>>>
>>> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
>>> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
>>> standard tea, or some-at else? .
>>
>> I don't think you can beat the builders tea, although I get odd looks when
>> I pour the milk in the cup before the tea.
>>
>>
>>
>
> If you make it in a teapot, that's the standard way, isn't it?
> If you use bags (yetch!) then milk should go in after brewing and
> removing the bag.
>
> I read "somewhere" that teabags are now designed to brew for only about
> 30 seconds.
> Here: Oscar Woolley, the co-founder of the award-winning SUKI Tea Makers

I indulged in a free shipping offer from Twinings. I now have a fair
selection. They recommend 5 minutes for Assam. They also say that tea should
not be made with boiling water.

--
Bernard Peek
bap@shrdlu.com
Wigan

On 2024-04-22, Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
> news:WcUKP1AQeUJmFAZV@salmiron.com:
>
>>
>> Which is why, yesterday morning, some God botherers left my front door
>> with a fleas in their ears. Also I was cooking my wife's breakfast
>> before she went to work. I did not need a lesson from the bible.
>
> I'm afraid I consider the door-to-door bible-thumpers as fair game. I talk
> to them reasonably and calmly, with logic rather than fervour, until they
> start edging off down the path looking for a way to escape with dignity.
>
Too much like shooting fish in a barrel. At least I first tell them that I
was taught by Jesuits.

--
Bernard Peek
bap@shrdlu.com
Wigan

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:26:54 +0100
Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:

> "Welcome we're non-conformist druids and you're just in time for lunch,
> we eat non-believers."

I will have to try and unforget that one if we ever get any JWs
here.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

On 22/04/2024 at 17:08, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:06:40 +0100
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:52:30 +0100
>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There was a time when
>>> soda bottles, lemonade, cola, milk bottles etc had a deposit on them
>>> reclaimable when returned to a retailer (who may or may not have sold
>>> the original filled bottle.
>>
>> This scheme was *far* simpler than the current scheme with complex
>> machines printing vouchers to be redeemed but probably wouldn't suit modern
>> siops which are mostly horriblemarket style and scanner dependent.
>>
>
> The Germans Belgians and maybe more do it so much betterer; standard size
> Beer bottles are returned, washed and reused many a time. Personally I
> *like* seeing the scuffmarks where the bottles have been jangled many a
> time.
>

Isn't that what used to happen here "in the good old days"?
Also milk bottles, pop bottles AIR.

> fphssznexf
>
> ah well
>
> shyyznexf
> better
>
> xneyznek
> ?
>

--
Chris Elvidge, England
I WILL NOT SEND LARD THROUGH THE MAIL

Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:

[...]

> I disunforget whether it was the JWs or the Mormons, but mother disposed
> of them rapidly by suggesting that they come in and discuss it over a
> cigarette and a glass of gin.
>
> I did get stopped in the street once by a couple of Mormons, who asked
> me if I knew anyone who wanted to talk about tbq. I pointed out the
> church up the side road, and suggested that they try there.
>

Whenever we get a pair of smartly-suited earnest young men with their
Sunday faces on the doorstep, or ditto young ladies, I ask them before
they can open their mouths "Mormons or Witnesses?" It's guaranteed to
get rid of them instantly.

Otherwise, if they turn out to be Witnesses (my favourite auntie was
one) ask if they're among the 144,000 who will be going to Heaven.
Only the first among them get to go there. The JWs see unfavourable
doorstep responses as "chastising the soul" to make them fitter for
their ultimate reward, whatever that may be.

If they're Mormons tell them you're a Witness and they are heretics.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> >> Speaking of fair game, how is Gordon these days? Is he prospering?
> >
> > Gordon is immutable, as ever.
>
> Where can I get one like him? I'm thinking about getting one
> to bring some joy into my life! =)

Your own rock will find you when the time is ripe.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> wrote:

> > I read "somewhere" that teabags are now designed to brew for only about
> > 30 seconds.
> > Here: Oscar Woolley, the co-founder of the award-winning SUKI Tea Makers
>
> I indulged in a free shipping offer from Twinings. I now have a fair
> selection. They recommend 5 minutes for Assam. They also say that
> tea should not be made with boiling water.

Pah, what do they know about it. That would result in what my dear old
white-haired granny would call "water bewitched, tea begrudged".
Myself, I'd call it "maiden's water".

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On 22-Apr-24 22:49, Sn!pe wrote:
> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Speaking of fair game, how is Gordon these days? Is he prospering?
>>>
>>> Gordon is immutable, as ever.
>>
>> Where can I get one like him? I'm thinking about getting one
>> to bring some joy into my life! =)
>
> Your own rock will find you when the time is ripe.

That would make rocks the original hunter-gatherers.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 22-Apr-24 22:30, Sn!pe wrote:
> Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> I disunforget whether it was the JWs or the Mormons, but mother disposed
>> of them rapidly by suggesting that they come in and discuss it over a
>> cigarette and a glass of gin.
>>
>> I did get stopped in the street once by a couple of Mormons, who asked
>> me if I knew anyone who wanted to talk about tbq. I pointed out the
>> church up the side road, and suggested that they try there.
>>
>
> Whenever we get a pair of smartly-suited earnest young men with their
> Sunday faces on the doorstep, or ditto young ladies, I ask them before
> they can open their mouths "Mormons or Witnesses?" It's guaranteed to
> get rid of them instantly.
>
> Otherwise, if they turn out to be Witnesses (my favourite auntie was
> one) ask if they're among the 144,000 who will be going to Heaven.
> Only the first among them get to go there. The JWs see unfavourable
> doorstep responses as "chastising the soul" to make them fitter for
> their ultimate reward, whatever that may be.
>
> If they're Mormons tell them you're a Witness and they are heretics.
>
Wouldn't that jbex in either direction?

--
Sam Plusnet

Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

[...]

> > Whenever we get a pair of smartly-suited earnest young men with their
> > Sunday faces on the doorstep, or ditto young ladies, I ask them before
> > they can open their mouths "Mormons or Witnesses?" It's guaranteed to
> > get rid of them instantly.
> >
> > Otherwise, if they turn out to be Witnesses (my favourite auntie was
> > one) ask if they're among the 144,000 who will be going to Heaven.
> > Only the first among them get to go there. The JWs see unfavourable
> > doorstep responses as "chastising the soul" to make them fitter for
> > their ultimate reward, whatever that may be.
> >
> > If they're Mormons tell them you're a Witness and they are heretics.
> >
>
> Wouldn't that jbex in either direction?
>

Yes, of course, but the 144,000 chosen few JW's question is fun.
I don't know enough about Mormonism to be able to twit them.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

> On 22-Apr-24 22:49, Sn!pe wrote:
> > D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> >
> >>>> Speaking of fair game, how is Gordon these days? Is he prospering?
> >>>
> >>> Gordon is immutable, as ever.
> >>
> >> Where can I get one like him? I'm thinking about getting one
> >> to bring some joy into my life! =)
> >
> > Your own rock will find you when the time is ripe.
>
> That would make rocks the original hunter-gatherers.

They're not just inanimate objects, y'know; they have uvqqra cbjref.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On 23/04/2024 01:35, Sn!pe wrote:
> Yes, of course, but the 144,000 chosen few JW's question is fun.
> I don't know enough about Mormonism to be able to twit them.

It's not just the JW 144,000. It's the Plymouth Brethren 144,000 too.

I guess there must be more than one heaven.

It's whether any of you lot make the 143,999 that bothers me.

Tone

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:56:29 +0100
Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote:

> On 23/04/2024 01:35, Sn!pe wrote:
> > Yes, of course, but the 144,000 chosen few JW's question is fun.
> > I don't know enough about Mormonism to be able to twit them.
>
> It's not just the JW 144,000. It's the Plymouth Brethren 144,000 too.
>
> I guess there must be more than one heaven.

Walled communities according to some bloke who got a tour.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:27:13 +0100, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:

> On 22/04/2024 13:03, Simon wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:48:48 +0100, Soup wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>>>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>>>
>>>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>>>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>>>
>>> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>>>
>>> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
>>> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
>>> standard tea, or some-at else? .
>>
>> I don't think you can beat the builders tea, although I get odd looks
>> when I pour the milk in the cup before the tea.
>
> If it is a mug, or a pottery cup, then so you should.
> It is only in china cups that the tea should go in first.
> It is all to do with the different temperature coefficients.
>
> The reason that MIF is associated with the 'working clarses' is that, by
> definition, they are not expected to be using/affording china cups!
>
> HTH
>
> (Aint science brilliant!)
>
> Chris

Perfect, I only have mugs so I can now do it with pride. :-)

--
Simon

RLU: 222126

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:20:59 -0000 (UTC), Richard Robinson wrote:

> Simon said:
>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:48:48 +0100, Soup wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>>>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>>>
>>>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>>>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>>>
>>> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>>>
>>> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
>>> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
>>> standard tea, or some-at else? .
>>
>> I don't think you can beat the builders tea,
>
> I could lend you a whisk ?

A frothy tea? haha

--
Simon

RLU: 222126

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:36:43 +0100, Chris Elvidge wrote:

> On 22/04/2024 at 13:03, Simon wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:48:48 +0100, Soup wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>>>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>>>
>>>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>>>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>>>
>>> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>>>
>>> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
>>> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
>>> standard tea, or some-at else? .
>>
>> I don't think you can beat the builders tea, although I get odd looks
>> when I pour the milk in the cup before the tea.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> If you make it in a teapot, that's the standard way, isn't it?
> If you use bags (yetch!) then milk should go in after brewing and
> removing the bag.
>
> I read "somewhere" that teabags are now designed to brew for only about
> 30 seconds.
> Here: Oscar Woolley, the co-founder of the award-winning SUKI Tea Makers

I use a mug and put the milk and sugar and bag in, then add water, forget
about it and find a lovely cup of warm tea made later. Remove bag, drink!

--
Simon

RLU: 222126

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:15:05 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:36:43 +0100 Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net>
> wrote:
>
>> If you make it in a teapot, that's the standard way, isn't it?
>
> Then there's the way I encountered among students at Ripon and York
> St Johns. They had a ginormous teapot which would periodically (several
> times a day) have a handful of teabags thrown into it, a fill of boiling
> water and a good stir. About once a week they'd empty it, scoop out all
> the teabags and seed it with a few handfuls of teabags.

I see the teabags in the bin, mouldy after a day or two, no thanks to
leaving them in the teapot for a week!

--
Simon

RLU: 222126

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Adrian wrote:

> In message <20240422153659.5068d528dcfff540d94f0fd3@eircom.net>, Ahem A
> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes
>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:54:29 +0200
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It turned out that 2 super models from Jehovas Witnesses
>>
>> I strongly suspect it's apocryphal that one young woman disposed a
>> JW nuisance by answering the door sky clad with an altar and upside down
>> cross visible in the background and said "Welcome you must be the
>> sacrifices".
>>
>
>
> The JW's called last week, as luck would have it, I was el swear at the time.
> Had I been at home, it would have been just before lunch time, so I could
> have used by non-conformist druid routine,
>
> "Welcome we're non-conformist druids and you're just in time for lunch, we
> eat non-believers."
>
> Oh well, there's always next time.
>
> I disunforget whether it was the JWs or the Mormons, but mother disposed of
> them rapidly by suggesting that they come in and discuss it over a cigarette
> and a glass of gin.
>
> I did get stopped in the street once by a couple of Mormons, who asked me if
> I knew anyone who wanted to talk about tbq. I pointed out the church up the
> side road, and suggested that they try there.
>
> Adrian
>

Very worrying. They never seem to be interested in discussion and
dialogue. What do they want?! People who just uncritically accept what
they say? ;)

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Sam Plusnet wrote:

> On 22-Apr-24 15:38, Sn!pe wrote:
>> Soup <cheez2011@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>>>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>>>
>>>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>>>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>>>
>>> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>>>
>>> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
>>> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
>>> standard tea, or some-at else? .
>>>
>>
>> This is my method, which is mine. The guiding principle being that for
>> a consistent result, one must have a consistent method. I like my tea.
>>
>> Sn!pe's Standard Brew is two bags of Twining's Asssam in a pint mug
>> (don't forget to warm the mug); pour over very freshly boiled watter,
>> stir and steep for 'zackly six minutes. Squeeze the bags when
>> retrieving them. Add half a teaspoon of mild-flavoured hunny to
>> sweeten, stir clockwise vigorously but without slopping and add just
>> enough semi-skimmed cow juice into the centre of the vortex to turn
>> the colour just off-black.
>>
>> When adding the watter it's very noticeable that properly hot watter
>> releases much more colour than watter that's not quite at boiling point.
>> This is a Clue.
>>
> In one previous place of servitude, the canteen provided a boiling water
> dispenser and plenty of tea bags, instant coffee, milk & sugar at Sheddie
> price - help yourself.
>
> A cow-orker would throw five or six tea bags into a mug and add hot water.
> He'd wait 20 or 30 seconds, and then discard the teabags.
> (He was left with half a mug of tea.)

Another fun experiment for the tired is to use loose leaf tea and use
table spoons instead of tea spoons. Then you should be able to get it
sufficiently strong to give you a light buzz. =)

For another take on this theme, read up on Zavarka tea.

"How could I have forgotten zavarka, the Russian tea concentrate that
makes espresso look like penny candy! Zavarka, killer of the weak hearted!
Zavarka, the brown liquor that truly drives the Motherland! Zavarka, that
sharpens the world, enlightens the soul, warms the heart! Zavarka, the
last tea you'll ever need!".

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Sn!pe wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Speaking of fair game, how is Gordon these days? Is he prospering?
>>>
>>> Gordon is immutable, as ever.
>>
>> Where can I get one like him? I'm thinking about getting one
>> to bring some joy into my life! =)
>
> Your own rock will find you when the time is ripe.
>
>

You surely are strong with the force!

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024, Sn!pe wrote:

> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 22-Apr-24 22:49, Sn!pe wrote:
>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of fair game, how is Gordon these days? Is he prospering?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gordon is immutable, as ever.
>>>>
>>>> Where can I get one like him? I'm thinking about getting one
>>>> to bring some joy into my life! =)
>>>
>>> Your own rock will find you when the time is ripe.
>>
>> That would make rocks the original hunter-gatherers.
>
> They're not just inanimate objects, y'know; they have uvqqra cbjref.

That's true. Otherwise, how would Sn!pe know his name is Gordon and his
state of mind? Obviously there is some communication going on here.

On 2024-04-23, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Adrian wrote:
>
>> In message <20240422153659.5068d528dcfff540d94f0fd3@eircom.net>, Ahem A
>> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes
>>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:54:29 +0200
>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It turned out that 2 super models from Jehovas Witnesses
>>>
>>> I strongly suspect it's apocryphal that one young woman disposed a
>>> JW nuisance by answering the door sky clad with an altar and upside down
>>> cross visible in the background and said "Welcome you must be the
>>> sacrifices".
>>>
>>
>>
>> The JW's called last week, as luck would have it, I was el swear at the time.
>> Had I been at home, it would have been just before lunch time, so I could
>> have used by non-conformist druid routine,
>>
>> "Welcome we're non-conformist druids and you're just in time for lunch, we
>> eat non-believers."
>>
>> Oh well, there's always next time.
>>
>> I disunforget whether it was the JWs or the Mormons, but mother disposed of
>> them rapidly by suggesting that they come in and discuss it over a cigarette
>> and a glass of gin.
>>
>> I did get stopped in the street once by a couple of Mormons, who asked me if
>> I knew anyone who wanted to talk about tbq. I pointed out the church up the
>> side road, and suggested that they try there.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>
> Very worrying. They never seem to be interested in discussion and
> dialogue. What do they want?! People who just uncritically accept what
> they say? ;)

Are they after donations?
--
Simon

RLU: 222126

>
> Another fun experiment for the tired is to use loose leaf tea and use
> table spoons instead of tea spoons. Then you should be able to get it
> sufficiently strong to give you a light buzz. =)
>

Or alternatively ... determine the actual purpose of the "caddy spoon"

On 2024-04-23, Abandoned Trolley <fred@fred-smith.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> Another fun experiment for the tired is to use loose leaf tea and use
>> table spoons instead of tea spoons. Then you should be able to get it
>> sufficiently strong to give you a light buzz. =)
>>
>
> Or alternatively ... determine the actual purpose of the "caddy spoon"
>

Is that not cuddling your golfing mate?
--
Simon

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