Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now a group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.

A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external), undertaken by psychology researchers at the University of Hagen in Germany and published in the Journal of Environmental Psychology, examined the relationships between mobility behaviour – in other words, what method of transport you use – and political participation, social participation in organisations, neighbourhood solidarity, and neighbourly helpfulness, four facets of what the authors describe as “orientation towards the common good”.

According to the study, “a pronounced focus on the common good” is considered an essential component of social cohesion and is associated with the wellbeing of residents across diverse communities and multiple social levels.

However, the researchers point out that little has been previously known about the conditions or factors that promote the common good, or how citizens themselves can create it.

Likewise, while cycling is associated with many positive psychological variables, little is known about how it affects the common good.

By analysing surveys between 2014 and 2019 of a representative sample of the German population, the researchers found that, in urban environments, “cycling rather than driving was positively associated with orientation towards the common good in all models” and that riding a bike “was the only variable that was a significant positive predictor for all four facets of orientation towards the common good after controlling for possibly confounding variables (home ownership, personal income, education, sex).”

They argue that while the interactions motorists and car passengers have with their direct environments are “significantly reduced”, cyclists on the other hand “directly experience the breadth of social diversity and cultural heterogeneity that make up urban life and cannot escape these impressions due to sensory density”.

This direct experience of the environment around them, the authors say, “leads to a stronger emotional bond between people and their neighbourhood” and therefore can lead to them participating in civic activities and politics.

In other words, riding a bike – and the interactions and emotional connection you have with the people, communities, societies, and things around you while cycling – can make you a more responsible, engaged citizen and neighbour.

The “relative isolation” of driving, meanwhile, can “reinforce individualistic behaviours and cause drivers to neglect collective actions”.

Thus, the authors concluded that mobility behaviour is indeed “associated with the orientation towards the common good”, findings which they say are “significant for policy and planning because the benefits of cycling over driving are more profound and sustainable than previously thought”.

Quick, someone get Rishi on the phone…

Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great
> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now a
> group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
>
> A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external),
> undertaken by psychology researchers

Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!

Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in
support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
researched.

At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded on the
warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc reporting at
its best.

--
Spike

On 17/10/2023 12:15 pm, Spike wrote:

> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great
>> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now a
>> group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
>>
>> A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
>> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external),
>> undertaken by psychology researchers
>
> Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!
>
> Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in
> support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
> researched.
>
> At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded on the
> warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc reporting at
> its best.

Did I miss a previous post in the thread?

I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.

Cugel | 2 hours ago
2 likes
"Quick, someone get Rishi on the phone…".

What fer, like? Pishi will only invent more "policies" to see-orf the cyclist whilst promoting car loonery, as the common good is (from Toryspiv perspective) a very bad thing indeed. Folk might begin to notice exploitation, polluting profiteers and spiv-spoilers of every ilk & tittle busy degrading and damaging them and theirs to make more money to salt away tax-free in the foreign places!

Shirly by now The Thatcher Thing's great insight (or was it just a-one o' her queer dreams, due to only 3 hours sleep each night and too many sherries) that there is no such thing as society should have got a firmer hold on the minds of serfs everywhere by now?

I'm surprised that Pishi hasn't yet made a new law reinstating fox hunting, only with cyclists instead of foxes and SUVs instead of hosses. What's that - he already has?!

On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 1:08:50 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
> Cugel | 2 hours ago
> 2 likes
>
> "Quick, someone get Rishi on the phone…".
>
> What fer, like? Pishi will only invent more "policies" to see-orf the cyclist whilst promoting car loonery, as the common good is (from Toryspiv perspective) a very bad thing indeed. Folk might begin to notice exploitation, polluting profiteers and spiv-spoilers of every ilk & tittle busy degrading and damaging them and theirs to make more money to salt away tax-free in the foreign places!
>
> Shirly by now The Thatcher Thing's great insight (or was it just a-one o' her queer dreams, due to only 3 hours sleep each night and too many sherries) that there is no such thing as society should have got a firmer hold on the minds of serfs everywhere by now?
>
> I'm surprised that Pishi hasn't yet made a new law reinstating fox hunting, only with cyclists instead of foxes and SUVs instead of hosses. What's that - he already has?!

Carior replied to mctrials23 | 1 hour ago
4 likes

But of course the message here is effectively "drivers are shit, do lots of illegal dangerous things that we can't/won't stop so you better just assume that every driver has their head up their arse and going to kill you".

Is that really the standard that the police should be setting for road safety. Its defeatest and assumes that drivers can never the persuaded not to drive in a way that kills people. If that's the case then the simplest solution to preventing those accidents is to simply ban all cars.

JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
> On 17/10/2023 12:15 pm, Spike wrote:
>
>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great
>>> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now a
>>> group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
>>>
>>> A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
>>> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external),
>>> undertaken by psychology researchers
>>
>> Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!
>>
>> Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in
>> support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
>> researched.
>>
>> At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded on the
>> warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc reporting at
>> its best.
>
> Did I miss a previous post in the thread?
>
> I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.

The headers of the OP were:

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--
Spike

On 17/10/2023 01:30 pm, Spike wrote:

> JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
>> On 17/10/2023 12:15 pm, Spike wrote:
>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great
>>>> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now a
>>>> group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
>
>>>> A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
>>>> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external),
>>>> undertaken by psychology researchers
>
>>> Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!
>>> Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in
>>> support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
>>> researched.
>>> At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded on the
>>> warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc reporting at
>>> its best.
>
>> Did I miss a previous post in the thread?
>> I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.
>
> The headers of the OP were:
>
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 03:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com>
> Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 10:33:47 +0000
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> 2023 03:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
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No, I never saw that one (and cannot recover it via Thunderbird).

On 17/10/2023 01:48 pm, JNugent wrote:
> On 17/10/2023 01:30 pm, Spike wrote:
>
>> JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
>>> On 17/10/2023 12:15 pm, Spike wrote:
>>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to
>>>>> great
>>>>> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and
>>>>> now a
>>>>> group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
>>
>>>>> A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
>>>>> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external),
>>>>> undertaken by psychology researchers
>>
>>>> Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!
>>>> Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in
>>>> support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
>>>> researched.
>>>> At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded
>>>> on the
>>>> warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc
>>>> reporting at
>>>> its best.
>>
>>> Did I miss a previous post in the thread?
>>> I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.
>>
>> The headers of the OP were:
>>
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 03:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com>
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>>
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>> j1-20020a4a92c1000000b0056c86f2ae14mr457195ooh.0.1697538827501; Tue,
>> 17 Oct
>> 2023 03:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
>> Xref: uni-berlin.de uk.rec.cycling:960327
>
> No, I never saw that one (and cannot recover it via Thunderbird).

But here it is:

<https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-17-october-2023-304523#live-blog-item-50595>

QUOTE:
Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great
environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now
a group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
ENDQUOTE

I think we can all see how and why the control freaks can cite
"environmental, health, safety" benefits (no matter how far-fetched).

But "social benefits"?

What are they?

And even more outlandish, "political benefits"?

What could they even be?

The rest:

QUOTE:
A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
role of individual urban mobility behaviour’(link is external),
undertaken by psychology researchers at the University of Hagen in
Germany and published in the Journal of Environmental Psychology,
examined the relationships between mobility behaviour – in other words,
what method of transport you use – and political participation, social
participation in organisations, neighbourhood solidarity, and
neighbourly helpfulness, four facets of what the authors describe as
“orientation towards the common good”.

According to the study, “a pronounced focus on the common good” is
considered an essential component of social cohesion and is associated
with the wellbeing of residents across diverse communities and multiple
social levels.

However, the researchers point out that little has been previously known
about the conditions or factors that promote the common good, or how
citizens themselves can create it.

Likewise, while cycling is associated with many positive psychological
variables, little is known about how it affects the common good.

By analysing surveys between 2014 and 2019 of a representative sample of
the German population, the researchers found that, in urban
environments, “cycling rather than driving was positively associated
with orientation towards the common good in all models” and that riding
a bike “was the only variable that was a significant positive predictor
for all four facets of orientation towards the common good after
controlling for possibly confounding variables (home ownership, personal
income, education, sex).”

They argue that while the interactions motorists and car passengers have
with their direct environments are “significantly reduced”, cyclists on
the other hand “directly experience the breadth of social diversity and
cultural heterogeneity that make up urban life and cannot escape these
impressions due to sensory density”.

This direct experience of the environment around them, the authors say,
“leads to a stronger emotional bond between people and their
neighbourhood” and therefore can lead to them participating in civic
activities and politics.

In other words, riding a bike – and the interactions and emotional
connection you have with the people, communities, societies, and things
around you while cycling – can make you a more responsible, engaged
citizen and neighbour.

The “relative isolation” of driving, meanwhile, can “reinforce
individualistic behaviours and cause drivers to neglect collective actions”.

Thus, the authors concluded that mobility behaviour is indeed
“associated with the orientation towards the common good”, findings
which they say are “significant for policy and planning because the
benefits of cycling over driving are more profound and sustainable than
previously thought”.

Quick, someone get Rishi on the phone…
ENDQUOTE

That "study":

<https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272494423001731>

It is all based on a "might" or two.

I doubt that anyone normal gave any evidence to the self-appointed and
self-educated "experts". There is certainly no mention of it.

Spike <aero.spike@btinternet.invalid> wrote:
> JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:

>> Did I miss a previous post in the thread?
>>
>> I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.
>
> The headers of the OP were:

> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 03:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com>
> Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 10:33:47 +0000

> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?New_study_concludes_that_riding_a_bike=2C_rather_than_?=
> =?UTF-8?Q?driving_a_car=2C_is_positively_associated_with_=E2=80=9Corientation_?=
> =?UTF-8?Q?towards_the_common_good=E2=80=9D?=

PS: have your sac de mal de mer to hand…the article is that bad…

Talk about ‘soft science’…

--
Spike

JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
> On 17/10/2023 01:48 pm, JNugent wrote:
>> On 17/10/2023 01:30 pm, Spike wrote:
>>
>>> JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 17/10/2023 12:15 pm, Spike wrote:
>>>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to
>>>>>> great
>>>>>> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and
>>>>>> now a
>>>>>> group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
>>>
>>>>>> A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
>>>>>> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external),
>>>>>> undertaken by psychology researchers
>>>
>>>>> Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!
>>>>> Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in
>>>>> support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
>>>>> researched.
>>>>> At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded
>>>>> on the
>>>>> warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc
>>>>> reporting at
>>>>> its best.
>>>
>>>> Did I miss a previous post in the thread?
>>>> I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.
>>>
>>> The headers of the OP were:
>>>
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 03:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com>
>>> Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 10:33:47 +0000
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>> j1-20020a4a92c1000000b0056c86f2ae14mr457195ooh.0.1697538827501; Tue,
>>> 17 Oct
>>> 2023 03:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Xref: uni-berlin.de uk.rec.cycling:960327
>>
>> No, I never saw that one (and cannot recover it via Thunderbird).
>
> But here it is:
>
> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-17-october-2023-304523#live-blog-item-50595>
>
> QUOTE:
> Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great
> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now
> a group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
> ENDQUOTE
>
> I think we can all see how and why the control freaks can cite
> "environmental, health, safety" benefits (no matter how far-fetched).
>
> But "social benefits"?
>
> What are they?
>
> And even more outlandish, "political benefits"?
>
> What could they even be?
>
> The rest:
>
> QUOTE:
> A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’(link is external),
> undertaken by psychology researchers at the University of Hagen in
> Germany and published in the Journal of Environmental Psychology,
> examined the relationships between mobility behaviour – in other words,
> what method of transport you use – and political participation, social
> participation in organisations, neighbourhood solidarity, and
> neighbourly helpfulness, four facets of what the authors describe as
> “orientation towards the common good”.
>
> According to the study, “a pronounced focus on the common good” is
> considered an essential component of social cohesion and is associated
> with the wellbeing of residents across diverse communities and multiple
> social levels.
>
> However, the researchers point out that little has been previously known
> about the conditions or factors that promote the common good, or how
> citizens themselves can create it.
>
> Likewise, while cycling is associated with many positive psychological
> variables, little is known about how it affects the common good.
>
> By analysing surveys between 2014 and 2019 of a representative sample of
> the German population, the researchers found that, in urban
> environments, “cycling rather than driving was positively associated
> with orientation towards the common good in all models” and that riding
> a bike “was the only variable that was a significant positive predictor
> for all four facets of orientation towards the common good after
> controlling for possibly confounding variables (home ownership, personal
> income, education, sex).”
>
> They argue that while the interactions motorists and car passengers have
> with their direct environments are “significantly reduced”, cyclists on
> the other hand “directly experience the breadth of social diversity and
> cultural heterogeneity that make up urban life and cannot escape these
> impressions due to sensory density”.
>
> This direct experience of the environment around them, the authors say,
> “leads to a stronger emotional bond between people and their
> neighbourhood” and therefore can lead to them participating in civic
> activities and politics.
>
> In other words, riding a bike – and the interactions and emotional
> connection you have with the people, communities, societies, and things
> around you while cycling – can make you a more responsible, engaged
> citizen and neighbour.
>
> The “relative isolation” of driving, meanwhile, can “reinforce
> individualistic behaviours and cause drivers to neglect collective actions”.
>
> Thus, the authors concluded that mobility behaviour is indeed
> “associated with the orientation towards the common good”, findings
> which they say are “significant for policy and planning because the
> benefits of cycling over driving are more profound and sustainable than
> previously thought”.
>
> Quick, someone get Rishi on the phone…
> ENDQUOTE
>
> That "study":
>
> <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272494423001731>
>
> It is all based on a "might" or two.
>
> I doubt that anyone normal gave any evidence to the self-appointed and
> self-educated "experts". There is certainly no mention of it.

Take this extract…

“…the interactions and emotional connection you have with the people,
communities, societies, and things around you while cycling – can make you
a more responsible, engaged citizen and neighbour”, which totally and
absolutely avoids addressing the issue of why cyclists are so antisocial,
kicking little girls to the ground, killing people by cycling on the
pavement, damaging cars, blocking roads, RLJing and the rest.

--
Spike

On 17/10/2023 02:46 pm, Spike wrote:
> JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
>> On 17/10/2023 01:48 pm, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 17/10/2023 01:30 pm, Spike wrote:
>>>
>>>> JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 17/10/2023 12:15 pm, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to
>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and
>>>>>>> now a
>>>>>>> group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
>>>>
>>>>>>> A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
>>>>>>> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external),
>>>>>>> undertaken by psychology researchers
>>>>
>>>>>> Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!
>>>>>> Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in
>>>>>> support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
>>>>>> researched.
>>>>>> At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc
>>>>>> reporting at
>>>>>> its best.
>>>>
>>>>> Did I miss a previous post in the thread?
>>>>> I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.
>>>>
>>>> The headers of the OP were:
>>>>
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 03:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> From: Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com>
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>>> No, I never saw that one (and cannot recover it via Thunderbird).
>>
>> But here it is:
>>
>> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-17-october-2023-304523#live-blog-item-50595>
>>
>> QUOTE:
>> Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great
>> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now
>> a group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
>> ENDQUOTE
>>
>> I think we can all see how and why the control freaks can cite
>> "environmental, health, safety" benefits (no matter how far-fetched).
>>
>> But "social benefits"?
>>
>> What are they?
>>
>> And even more outlandish, "political benefits"?
>>
>> What could they even be?
>>
>> The rest:
>>
>> QUOTE:
>> A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
>> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’(link is external),
>> undertaken by psychology researchers at the University of Hagen in
>> Germany and published in the Journal of Environmental Psychology,
>> examined the relationships between mobility behaviour – in other words,
>> what method of transport you use – and political participation, social
>> participation in organisations, neighbourhood solidarity, and
>> neighbourly helpfulness, four facets of what the authors describe as
>> “orientation towards the common good”.
>>
>> According to the study, “a pronounced focus on the common good” is
>> considered an essential component of social cohesion and is associated
>> with the wellbeing of residents across diverse communities and multiple
>> social levels.
>>
>> However, the researchers point out that little has been previously known
>> about the conditions or factors that promote the common good, or how
>> citizens themselves can create it.
>>
>> Likewise, while cycling is associated with many positive psychological
>> variables, little is known about how it affects the common good.
>>
>> By analysing surveys between 2014 and 2019 of a representative sample of
>> the German population, the researchers found that, in urban
>> environments, “cycling rather than driving was positively associated
>> with orientation towards the common good in all models” and that riding
>> a bike “was the only variable that was a significant positive predictor
>> for all four facets of orientation towards the common good after
>> controlling for possibly confounding variables (home ownership, personal
>> income, education, sex).”
>>
>> They argue that while the interactions motorists and car passengers have
>> with their direct environments are “significantly reduced”, cyclists on
>> the other hand “directly experience the breadth of social diversity and
>> cultural heterogeneity that make up urban life and cannot escape these
>> impressions due to sensory density”.
>>
>> This direct experience of the environment around them, the authors say,
>> “leads to a stronger emotional bond between people and their
>> neighbourhood” and therefore can lead to them participating in civic
>> activities and politics.
>>
>> In other words, riding a bike – and the interactions and emotional
>> connection you have with the people, communities, societies, and things
>> around you while cycling – can make you a more responsible, engaged
>> citizen and neighbour.
>>
>> The “relative isolation” of driving, meanwhile, can “reinforce
>> individualistic behaviours and cause drivers to neglect collective actions”.
>>
>> Thus, the authors concluded that mobility behaviour is indeed
>> “associated with the orientation towards the common good”, findings
>> which they say are “significant for policy and planning because the
>> benefits of cycling over driving are more profound and sustainable than
>> previously thought”.
>>
>> Quick, someone get Rishi on the phone…
>> ENDQUOTE
>>
>> That "study":
>>
>> <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272494423001731>
>>
>> It is all based on a "might" or two.
>>
>> I doubt that anyone normal gave any evidence to the self-appointed and
>> self-educated "experts". There is certainly no mention of it.
>
> Take this extract…
>
> “…the interactions and emotional connection you have with the people,
> communities, societies, and things around you while cycling – can make you
> a more responsible, engaged citizen and neighbour”, which totally and
> absolutely avoids addressing the issue of why cyclists are so antisocial,
> kicking little girls to the ground, killing people by cycling on the
> pavement, damaging cars, blocking roads, RLJing and the rest.

There are none so blind...

marmotte27 | 7 min ago
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Nice to have a study confirming that cycling = common good. Maybe the fact that the bleeding obvious needs studies explains why over sixty years after climate change was definitely proven, we have yet to do fuck all?

Exactly.

They take pains to be "impartial" when they talk to a scientific expert - usually by bringing in some mouth-breathing conspiracy idiot to provide balance. However they don't even bother with impartiality when it comes to motor vehicles or royalty - they just simper all over them.