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* Nut treesTimW
+- Re: Nut treesJeff Layman
+- Re: Nut treesThe Natural Philosopher
+* Re: Nut treesStewart Robert Hinsley
|`* Re: Nut treesJeff Layman
| `- Re: Nut treesStewart Robert Hinsley
`- Re: Nut treesNick Maclaren

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From: timw@nomailta.co.uk (TimW)
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Nut trees
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 18:48:04 +0000
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 by: TimW - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 18:48 UTC

Planting a little corner of orchard before the winter is over I find I
have space for maybe 2 or three small trees more. I have been doing nuts
in this corner, the idea being to have variety, it isn't agriculture. I
have a walnut, a hazel/cob and an almond. Thinking about a sweet
chestnut but I am not sure it will stay small. Other nuts are available
pistachio and cashew for instance but do they really grow and fruit in
the UK?
TW

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From: Jeff@invalid.invalid (Jeff Layman)
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Subject: Re: Nut trees
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 by: Jeff Layman - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 20:04 UTC

On 11/02/2024 18:48, TimW wrote:
> Planting a little corner of orchard before the winter is over I find I
> have space for maybe 2 or three small trees more. I have been doing nuts
> in this corner, the idea being to have variety, it isn't agriculture. I
> have a walnut, a hazel/cob and an almond. Thinking about a sweet
> chestnut but I am not sure it will stay small. Other nuts are available
> pistachio and cashew for instance but do they really grow and fruit in
> the UK?

Basically, there are very few nut trees hardy in the UK, and even fewer
which would fruit reliably. I think you've mentioned them all. Pistachio
and cashew are really tropical/subtropical. You might get some nuts in a
heated greenhouse, but you'd have to be very observant of the plant's
requirements.

One thing you might be interested in is the experimentation in nut tree
rootstock. We're all familiar with rootstock for top fruit, but nuts are
being looked at too:
<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8623031/>

--

Jeff

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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 20:34 UTC

On 11/02/2024 18:48, TimW wrote:
> Planting a little corner of orchard before the winter is over I find I
> have space for maybe 2 or three small trees more. I have been doing nuts
> in this corner, the idea being to have variety, it isn't agriculture. I
> have a walnut, a hazel/cob and an almond. Thinking about a sweet
> chestnut but I am not sure it will stay small.

It wont, but it will take 100 years to get big.

Other nuts are available
> pistachio and cashew for instance but do they really grow and fruit in
> the UK?

Never known them to, but I could be wrong.

> TW

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guns, why should we let them have ideas?

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From: {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk (Stewart Robert Hinsley)
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 by: Stewart Robert Hinsl - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:16 UTC

On 11/02/2024 18:48, TimW wrote:
> Planting a little corner of orchard before the winter is over I find I
> have space for maybe 2 or three small trees more. I have been doing nuts
> in this corner, the idea being to have variety, it isn't agriculture. I
> have a walnut, a hazel/cob and an almond. Thinking about a sweet
> chestnut but I am not sure it will stay small. Other nuts are available
> pistachio and cashew for instance but do they really grow and fruit in
> the UK?
> TW

For some "nut" plants (pine and gingko nuts aren't botanically nuts)
sold in the UK see

https://www.agroforestry.co.uk/product-category/plants/nuts/

Mostly relatives of the species you mention above, but there's also
bladdernut, as well as pine and gingko. I can't comment as to how
reliably, or at what age, they might crop in the UK.

--
SRH

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From: Jeff@invalid.invalid (Jeff Layman)
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Subject: Re: Nut trees
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 07:50:27 +0000
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 by: Jeff Layman - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 07:50 UTC

On 11/02/2024 21:16, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
> On 11/02/2024 18:48, TimW wrote:
>> Planting a little corner of orchard before the winter is over I find I
>> have space for maybe 2 or three small trees more. I have been doing nuts
>> in this corner, the idea being to have variety, it isn't agriculture. I
>> have a walnut, a hazel/cob and an almond. Thinking about a sweet
>> chestnut but I am not sure it will stay small. Other nuts are available
>> pistachio and cashew for instance but do they really grow and fruit in
>> the UK?
>> TW
>
> For some "nut" plants (pine and gingko nuts aren't botanically nuts)
> sold in the UK see
>
> https://www.agroforestry.co.uk/product-category/plants/nuts/
>
> Mostly relatives of the species you mention above, but there's also
> bladdernut, as well as pine and gingko. I can't comment as to how
> reliably, or at what age, they might crop in the UK.

Er...you *wouldn't* want gingko to crop. It's fruits are said to smell
like a cross between rancid butter and vomit! It also appears that the
nuts are poisonous unless roasted.
<https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/female-ginkgo-tree-leaves-smelly-mess-for-owner-1.7059243>

--

Jeff

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 by: Stewart Robert Hinsl - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:54 UTC

On 12/02/2024 07:50, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 11/02/2024 21:16, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
>> On 11/02/2024 18:48, TimW wrote:
>>> Planting a little corner of orchard before the winter is over I find I
>>> have space for maybe 2 or three small trees more. I have been doing nuts
>>> in this corner, the idea being to have variety, it isn't agriculture. I
>>> have a walnut, a hazel/cob and an almond. Thinking about a sweet
>>> chestnut but I am not sure it will stay small. Other nuts are available
>>> pistachio and cashew for instance but do they really grow and fruit in
>>> the UK?
>>> TW
>>
>> For some "nut" plants (pine and gingko nuts aren't botanically nuts)
>> sold in the UK see
>>
>> https://www.agroforestry.co.uk/product-category/plants/nuts/
>>
>> Mostly relatives of the species you mention above, but there's also
>> bladdernut, as well as pine and gingko. I can't comment as to how
>> reliably, or at what age, they might crop in the UK.
>
> Er...you *wouldn't* want gingko to crop. It's fruits are said to smell
> like a cross between rancid butter and vomit! It also appears that the
> nuts are poisonous unless roasted.
> <https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/female-ginkgo-tree-leaves-smelly-mess-for-owner-1.7059243>
>

Durian fruits are said to have a terrible stench (banned from public
transport), but they're also a delicacy. (They also add impact damage
from falling fruit to the hazard mix.) I wouldn't grow gingko for its
fruits but that doesn't mean no-one else would.

(The preference for male gingko trees in amenity plantings is well
known, but I wasn't bothered by the odour when I encountered female
trees at RBGE.)

--
SRH

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From: nmm@wheeler.UUCP (Nick Maclaren)
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 by: Nick Maclaren - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 11:03 UTC

In article <uqb4p5$133ct$1@dont-email.me>, TimW <timw@nomailta.co.uk> wrote:
>Planting a little corner of orchard before the winter is over I find I
>have space for maybe 2 or three small trees more. I have been doing nuts
>in this corner, the idea being to have variety, it isn't agriculture. I
>have a walnut, a hazel/cob and an almond. Thinking about a sweet
>chestnut but I am not sure it will stay small. Other nuts are available
>pistachio and cashew for instance but do they really grow and fruit in
>the UK?

None of those are really small, and (according to my sources) the
Japanese and Chinese chestnuts are pretty comparable.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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