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* Cyclist stops for red light... nearly gets taken out by light-jumpingSimon Mason
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Subject: Cyclist stops for red light... nearly gets taken out by light-jumping
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 by: Simon Mason - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 20:32 UTC

Let's finish the day with this video from Righttobikeit, the Irish rider documenting typical life as a cycle commuter. Today's clip is about red lights, a hot discussion topic on the old interwebs... although this one might be a bit of a twist on the classic ranty person complaining about cyclists riding through red lights because of 'safety issues', while also being very quiet about other dangers.

In fact, Righttobikeit says he "gets them daily at this stage" and "just rarely posts them". Case in point, number two.

Surprise surprise though, some of the reaction to the video has centred around his riding, one person claiming he shouldn't have stopped as it was "unsafe to do so". "That's asking to get hit from behind. You should have proceeded through without delay. It's also unlikely the car could have stopped safely". I'm sensing a Schrödinger's cyclist: red light edition.

Thankfully that appears to be a minority view, plenty pointing out the driver being unable to stop is more to do with their own excessive speed and lack of stopping distance behind a vulnerable road user.

Before any driverists get involved, amber means stop and it was "STOP" all the way back here. ✋

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-5nZe-XAAAMWOa?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-15-november-2023-305091#live-blog-item-51883

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 by: JNugent - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:57 UTC

On 15/11/2023 08:32 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
> Let's finish the day with this video from Righttobikeit, the Irish rider documenting typical life as a cycle commuter. Today's clip is about red lights, a hot discussion topic on the old interwebs... although this one might be a bit of a twist on the classic ranty person complaining about cyclists riding through red lights because of 'safety issues', while also being very quiet about other dangers.
>
> In fact, Righttobikeit says he "gets them daily at this stage" and "just rarely posts them". Case in point, number two.
>
> Surprise surprise though, some of the reaction to the video has centred around his riding, one person claiming he shouldn't have stopped as it was "unsafe to do so". "That's asking to get hit from behind. You should have proceeded through without delay. It's also unlikely the car could have stopped safely". I'm sensing a Schrödinger's cyclist: red light edition.
>
> Thankfully that appears to be a minority view, plenty pointing out the driver being unable to stop is more to do with their own excessive speed and lack of stopping distance behind a vulnerable road user.
>
> Before any driverists get involved, amber means stop and it was "STOP" all the way back here. ✋
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> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-5nZe-XAAAMWOa?format=jpg&name=900x900
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> https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-15-november-2023-305091#live-blog-item-51883

For all chav-cyclists: "amber means stop" and so does red.

And it applies to all you chavs on your chav-bikes.

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 by: Simon Mason - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:08 UTC

Question: Should cyclists stop for orange light?
Answer: it doesn’t matter. The driver behind will try take you out either way.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1724423756515250389

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 by: Spike - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 10:05 UTC

Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Question: Should cyclists stop for orange light?
> Answer: it doesn’t matter. The driver behind will try take you out either way.
>
> https://twitter.com/i/status/1724423756515250389

At least you would be dead right.

--
Spike

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 by: Simon Mason - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:25 UTC

That’s asking to get hit from behind

You should have proceeded through without delay

It’s also unlikely the car could have stopped safely
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@aggressie
a) That's nonsense. That was a perfectly normal bike stop.
b) If the lad behind him couldn't stop in time, it was because he wasn't maintaining the requisite safe distance.

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