About 1 sq metre of my lawn gets a bit trodden down during wet
periods as I step onto it to reach the rest of the garden.

I was thinking that a piece of protective mesh could be laid on
top, for the grass to grow through, but this only appears to be
available in expensive full rolls.

Any suggestions? Does anywhere sell it by the metre?

Chris
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On 09/03/2024 in message <jmeouih5scbrnlf0q9jf8f9b6h4n288a3n@4ax.com>
Chris J Dixon wrote:

>About 1 sq metre of my lawn gets a bit trodden down during wet
>periods as I step onto it to reach the rest of the garden.
>
>I was thinking that a piece of protective mesh could be laid on
>top, for the grass to grow through, but this only appears to be
>available in expensive full rolls.
>
>Any suggestions? Does anywhere sell it by the metre?
>
>Chris

Something like this:

https://roofin.co.uk/shop/ground-reinforcement-system-1m2-pack-green/?gad_source=1

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In uk.d-i-y Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
> About 1 sq metre of my lawn gets a bit trodden down during wet
> periods as I step onto it to reach the rest of the garden.
>
> I was thinking that a piece of protective mesh could be laid on
> top, for the grass to grow through, but this only appears to be
> available in expensive full rolls.
>
> Any suggestions? Does anywhere sell it by the metre?

Can't speak for this in particular, but ebay is often the place to buy
things in small quantities - either cut to length or the offcut at the end
of the roll.

It probably works better for things that are feasible to post though.
(I'd guess if you can order a full roll they can post 1m rolled up?)

Theo

On 09/03/2024 11:17, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 09/03/2024 in message <jmeouih5scbrnlf0q9jf8f9b6h4n288a3n@4ax.com>
> Chris J Dixon wrote:
>
>> About 1 sq metre of my lawn gets a bit trodden down during wet
>> periods as I step onto it to reach the rest of the garden.
>>
>> I was thinking that a piece of protective mesh could be laid on
>> top, for the grass to grow through, but this only appears to be
>> available in expensive full rolls.
>>
>> Any suggestions? Does anywhere sell it by the metre?
>>
>> Chris
>
> Something like this:
>
> https://roofin.co.uk/shop/ground-reinforcement-system-1m2-pack-green/?gad_source=1
>

Similar sold for shed bases - the voids are filled with gravel to level
off and allow drainage.

In the OPs case sink it into the ground and let the grass grow through.

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On 09/03/2024 10:39, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> About 1 sq metre of my lawn gets a bit trodden down during wet
> periods as I step onto it to reach the rest of the garden.
>
> I was thinking that a piece of protective mesh could be laid on
> top, for the grass to grow through, but this only appears to be
> available in expensive full rolls.
>
What I have used is road base (MOT type 1). If its really wet, simply
lay down limestone and roll it into the ground, or if its drier remove
turf, smack some porous material into the ground and then refit the turf
a few inches higher.
It has been unbelievably wet this late-winter.

https://www.scotts-supplies.co.uk/product/type-1-mot/

Ultimately the MOT does the load bearing part but he gross grows over
and between it to provide a green path

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On 09/03/2024 10:39, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> About 1 sq metre of my lawn gets a bit trodden down during wet
> periods as I step onto it to reach the rest of the garden.
>
> I was thinking that a piece of protective mesh could be laid on
> top, for the grass to grow through, but this only appears to be
> available in expensive full rolls.
>
> Any suggestions? Does anywhere sell it by the metre?
>
> Chris
>

A few of those holey black rubbery doormats laid together?
trodden in when very wet

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On 09/03/2024 10:39, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> About 1 sq metre of my lawn gets a bit trodden down during wet
> periods as I step onto it to reach the rest of the garden.
>
> I was thinking that a piece of protective mesh could be laid on
> top, for the grass to grow through, but this only appears to be
> available in expensive full rolls.
>
> Any suggestions? Does anywhere sell it by the metre?
>
> Chris

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1156302573/keep-off-the-grass-sign-plaque-acrylic

:-)

On 09/03/2024 10:39, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> About 1 sq metre of my lawn gets a bit trodden down during wet
> periods as I step onto it to reach the rest of the garden.
>
> I was thinking that a piece of protective mesh could be laid on
> top, for the grass to grow through, but this only appears to be
> available in expensive full rolls.
>
> Any suggestions? Does anywhere sell it by the metre?

I don't see how any mesh is going to help?

Some ideas:
https://www.pavingexpert.com/grasspav

I rather like the idea of coping with traffic and yet will look green.
You can mow over these solutions.

Fredxx wrote:

>On 09/03/2024 10:39, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>> About 1 sq metre of my lawn gets a bit trodden down during wet
>> periods as I step onto it to reach the rest of the garden.
>>
>> I was thinking that a piece of protective mesh could be laid on
>> top, for the grass to grow through, but this only appears to be
>> available in expensive full rolls.
>>
>> Any suggestions? Does anywhere sell it by the metre?
>
>I don't see how any mesh is going to help?
>
>Some ideas:
> https://www.pavingexpert.com/grasspav
>
>I rather like the idea of coping with traffic and yet will look green.
>You can mow over these solutions.

Well, mesh can indeed help, when it is only light foot traffic -
I don't want to park my car on it.

The very link you have suggested includes:

"Mesh Protected Turf

This system is becoming quite popular with those responsible for
overspill car-parking and pedestrian usage at occasional events,
.... where the natural appearance of grass with the load-carrying
ability of a pavement, all at a minimal cost and with little or
no construction work required, is very appealing.

The basic premise is that a tough polypropylene or HDPE mesh is
laid over an area of turf or grass, and this allows foot-traffic,
low-speed cars and vans to use the area without completely
ruining the grass. ... The mesh works to protect the grass roots
from being damage, to minimise ' pumping ' of wet ground, and to
avoid rutting of soft spots.

For lawned areas, the mesh is simply rolled out over the
close-cropped turf, ... Once laid, they can be left in-situ for
the season, or even permanently, ... For areas with longer grass,
the meshes are placed after a mowing, and the grass is allowed to
grow up and through the mesh, hiding it from view, yet providing
sufficient stability to permit trafficking."

Which is very much what I would like to do. I have no intention
of lifting the existing lawn to bury a deep grid - it is overkill
in this situation.

Chris
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On 2024-03-09, Chris J Dixon wrote:

> About 1 sq metre of my lawn gets a bit trodden down during wet
> periods as I step onto it to reach the rest of the garden.
>
> I was thinking that a piece of protective mesh could be laid on
> top, for the grass to grow through, but this only appears to be
> available in expensive full rolls.
>
> Any suggestions? Does anywhere sell it by the metre?
>
> Chris

I bought two of these for the muddy strip to the shed door:

<https://grassmats.co.uk/product/rubber-grass-mats-16mm/>

1.5 x 1 metre pieces; £20.40 each plus £10.00 for shipping.

Someone in uk.d-i-y provided a link to a different site that only had
the 22 mm version in stock, but once I knew I was looking for "rubber
grass mats" I found this one.

HTH

On 11/03/2024 14:19, Chris J Dixon wrote:

>
> Which is very much what I would like to do. I have no intention
> of lifting the existing lawn to bury a deep grid - it is overkill
> in this situation.

The potential problem with laying anything on the surface of a lawn is
subsequent mowing. Set the mower cut too low or if the ground is uneven
the mower will start cutting the mesh and possible pull it up.

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On 11/03/2024 16:50, alan_m wrote:
> On 11/03/2024 14:19, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>
>>
>> Which is very much what I would like to do. I have no intention
>> of lifting the existing lawn to bury a deep grid - it is overkill
>> in this situation.
>
> The potential problem with laying anything on the surface of a lawn is
> subsequent mowing. Set the mower cut too low or if the ground is uneven
> the mower will start cutting the mesh and possible pull it up.
>
Hence my recommendation to dig up the surface layer. However when using
grow through grids, as long as you put some weight on then first they
will sink into the ground
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On 11/03/2024 18:31, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 11/03/2024 16:50, alan_m wrote:
>> On 11/03/2024 14:19, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Which is very much what I would like to do. I have no intention
>>> of lifting the existing lawn to bury a deep grid - it is overkill
>>> in this situation.
>>
>> The potential problem with laying anything on the surface of a lawn is
>> subsequent mowing. Set the mower cut too low or if the ground is
>> uneven the mower will start cutting the mesh and possible pull it up.
>>
> Hence my recommendation to dig up the surface layer. However when using
> grow through grids, as long as you put some weight on then first they
> will sink into the ground

It indicates that it is suitable for occasional use. Is the way the OP
is walking over this piece of lawn considered "occasional"?

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On 11/03/2024 18:31, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 11/03/2024 16:50, alan_m wrote:
>> On 11/03/2024 14:19, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Which is very much what I would like to do. I have no intention
>>> of lifting the existing lawn to bury a deep grid - it is overkill
>>> in this situation.
>>
>> The potential problem with laying anything on the surface of a lawn is
>> subsequent mowing. Set the mower cut too low or if the ground is
>> uneven the mower will start cutting the mesh and possible pull it up.
>>
> Hence my recommendation to dig up the surface layer. However when using
> grow through grids, as long as you put some weight on then first they
> will sink into the ground

That depends on the ground. You wouldn't sink one into our brash without
first sieving to remove the stones.

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Adam Funk wrote:

>I bought two of these for the muddy strip to the shed door:
>
><https://grassmats.co.uk/product/rubber-grass-mats-16mm/>
>
>1.5 x 1 metre pieces; £20.40 each plus £10.00 for shipping.
>
>Someone in uk.d-i-y provided a link to a different site that only had
>the 22 mm version in stock, but once I knew I was looking for "rubber
>grass mats" I found this one.

I have some mats like that for placing by the touring caravan
step when on grass. I have occasionally used it as temporary
protection in the troublesome area if I am to-and-fro in
particularly wet conditions.

I don't quite see it meeting my needs permanently.

Chris
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On 2024-03-12, Chris J Dixon wrote:

> Adam Funk wrote:
>
>>I bought two of these for the muddy strip to the shed door:
>>
>><https://grassmats.co.uk/product/rubber-grass-mats-16mm/>
>>
>>1.5 x 1 metre pieces; £20.40 each plus £10.00 for shipping.
>>
>>Someone in uk.d-i-y provided a link to a different site that only had
>>the 22 mm version in stock, but once I knew I was looking for "rubber
>>grass mats" I found this one.
>
> I have some mats like that for placing by the touring caravan
> step when on grass. I have occasionally used it as temporary
> protection in the troublesome area if I am to-and-fro in
> particularly wet conditions.
>
> I don't quite see it meeting my needs permanently.

Fair point. I have one mat down all year (right in front of the shed
door) and another that I use for the colder half of the year, but I do
move them to mow (there's a ding in one corner that confirms this) and
I shift them around a little when I put them back.

This suits me and my lack of lawn enthusiasm, but it wouldn't work for
everyone.