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 by: Simon Mason - Wed, 27 Dec 2023 13:32 UTC

BOO HOO - WE WANT OUR OUNCES AND FURLONGS.
=================In a quiet announcement tucked away over the festive period, the government announced a public consultation had revealed a resounding public preference for the metric system, leaving Boris Johnson’s “ancient liberty” promise on the shelf.

The move has been attacked by former ‘Brexit opportunities’ minister Jacob Rees-Mogg as being “typical of the rather bureaucratic and dull approach” of Sunak’s government.

The consultation, launched under Boris Johnson’s premiership with much fanfare, drew a strong response, with 98.7% of respondents calling for the continued use of metric units. The emphatic rejection of pints, pounds and stone is likely to come as a relief to businesses, worried about the cost and complexity of a dual system, and scientists concerned about potential setbacks in international collaboration.

Although it was still legal to price goods in pounds and ounces within the European Union, it had to be displayed less prominently than the price in grams and kilograms. This led to a famous legal case in 2001 in which a Sunderland market trader – so-called ‘Metric Martyr’ Steven Thoburn – was convicted after being caught by trading standards officers who went undercover to buy 34p worth of bananas weighed on imperial scales.

Johnson invoked Thoburn’s name when he promised that when Britain left the EU he would bring back the ­“ancient liberty” of allowing shops to sell goods in imperial measurements. Last year, to coincide with the Queen’s platinum jubilee, he introduced a consultation to bring back ­imperial measurement as the first step towards changing the law.

But the plan is now dead after ministers concluded that the “appetite was not there” and that people overwhelmingly preferred the simplicity of the metric system.

Rees-Mogg said: “It is hard to see why this harmless little measure is not being implemented, especially as our largest trading partner, the United States, still uses imperial units.” (The UK’s largest trading partner is actually the EU, which deals in metric measurements.) “It is typical of the rather bureaucratic and dull approach this government likes to take.”

In one sop to Brexiteers, however, from today shoppers will however be able to buy wine by the the pint, with vintners free to sell prepackaged still and sparkling in 568ml pint measures.

Enterprise minister Kevin Hollinrake said: “Our exit from the EU was all about moments just like this, where we can seize new opportunities and provide a real boost to our great British wineries and further growing the economy.”

UTTER BOLLOCKS

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 by: soup - Wed, 27 Dec 2023 14:03 UTC

On 27/12/2023 13:32, Simon Mason wrote:

> UTTER BOLLOCKS

Yes, what else is new from Simon?

What has ANY of that to do with cycling?

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 by: Simon Mason - Wed, 27 Dec 2023 16:19 UTC

On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 2:03:50 PM UTC, soup wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 13:32, Simon Mason wrote:
>
> > UTTER BOLLOCKS
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> Yes, what else is new from Simon?
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> What has ANY of that to do with cycling?

Bloody hell - I haven't seen of of those since 1997!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCXhS9JXUAEDDO6?format=jpg&name=small

How quaint.

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 27 Dec 2023 16:23 UTC

On 27/12/2023 02:03 pm, soup wrote:

> On 27/12/2023 13:32, Simon Mason wrote:
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>> UTTER BOLLOCKS
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> Yes, what else is new from Simon?
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> What has ANY of that to do with cycling?

May Sun rarely posts about his fellow chavs on bikes or about the
chav-bikes themselves.

He's a troll.

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 by: soup - Wed, 27 Dec 2023 16:24 UTC

On 27/12/2023 16:19, Simon Mason wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 2:03:50 PM UTC, soup wrote:
>> On 27/12/2023 13:32, Simon Mason wrote:
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>>> UTTER BOLLOCKS
>>
>> Yes, what else is new from Simon?
>>
>> What has ANY of that to do with cycling?
>
> Bloody hell - I haven't seen of of those since 1997!
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCXhS9JXUAEDDO6?format=jpg&name=small
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> How quaint.

Mmm there is a world of difference between Net-copping and asking WTF
has that post to do with the 'title' of the newsgroup.

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 by: Simon Mason - Wed, 27 Dec 2023 16:32 UTC

On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 4:24:53 PM UTC, soup wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 16:19, Simon Mason wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 2:03:50 PM UTC, soup wrote:
> >> On 27/12/2023 13:32, Simon Mason wrote:
> >>
> >>> UTTER BOLLOCKS
> >>
> >> Yes, what else is new from Simon?
> >>
> >> What has ANY of that to do with cycling?
> >
> > Bloody hell - I haven't seen of of those since 1997!
> >
> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCXhS9JXUAEDDO6?format=jpg&name=small
> >
> > How quaint.
> Mmm there is a world of difference between Net-copping and asking WTF
> has that post to do with the 'title' of the newsgroup.

Have you never heard of discussing the Tour de France on uk.rec.cycling, for example?

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 27 Dec 2023 16:34 UTC

On 27/12/2023 04:32 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 4:24:53 PM UTC, soup wrote:
>> On 27/12/2023 16:19, Simon Mason wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 2:03:50 PM UTC, soup wrote:
>>>> On 27/12/2023 13:32, Simon Mason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> UTTER BOLLOCKS
>>>>
>>>> Yes, what else is new from Simon?
>>>>
>>>> What has ANY of that to do with cycling?
>>>
>>> Bloody hell - I haven't seen of of those since 1997!
>>>
>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCXhS9JXUAEDDO6?format=jpg&name=small
>>>
>>> How quaint.
>> Mmm there is a world of difference between Net-copping and asking WTF
>> has that post to do with the 'title' of the newsgroup.
>
> Have you never heard of discussing the Tour de France on uk.rec.cycling, for example?

I have seen that happen. It was, of course, off-topic.

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 by: Simon Mason - Wed, 27 Dec 2023 17:30 UTC


Hurrah - the UK is saved by a Brexit "benefit" at long last. Thank you, Smugg and Bodger!

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 by: soup - Wed, 27 Dec 2023 19:58 UTC

On 27/12/2023 16:32, Simon Mason wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 4:24:53 PM UTC, soup wrote:
>> On 27/12/2023 16:19, Simon Mason wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 2:03:50 PM UTC, soup wrote:
>>>> On 27/12/2023 13:32, Simon Mason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> UTTER BOLLOCKS
>>>>
>>>> Yes, what else is new from Simon?
>>>>
>>>> What has ANY of that to do with cycling?
>>>
>>> Bloody hell - I haven't seen of of those since 1997!
>>>
>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCXhS9JXUAEDDO6?format=jpg&name=small
>>>
>>> How quaint.
>> Mmm there is a world of difference between Net-copping and asking WTF
>> has that post to do with the 'title' of the newsgroup.
>
> Have you never heard of discussing the Tour de France on uk.rec.cycling, for example?

Yes.
Mmm recreational cyclists being interested in a cycle 'race' (and the
accompanying technology etc) seems On T to me.

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 by: Spike - Wed, 27 Dec 2023 21:58 UTC

JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
> On 27/12/2023 02:03 pm, soup wrote:
>> On 27/12/2023 13:32, Simon Mason wrote:

>>> UTTER BOLLOCKS

>> Yes, what else is new from Simon?

>> What has ANY of that to do with cycling?

> May Sun rarely posts about his fellow chavs on bikes or about the chav-bikes themselves.

> He's a troll.

When one reads of things like “…98.7% of respondents calling for the
continued use of metric units”, it reminds one of the elections held in the
Former Soviet Union! That didn’t end well either.

--
Spike

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 by: Simon Mason - Thu, 28 Dec 2023 08:03 UTC

On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 7:58:11 PM UTC, soup wrote:

> Yes.
> Mmm recreational cyclists being interested in a cycle 'race' (and the
> accompanying technology etc) seems On T to me.

Of course it's on topic - UK riders take part in the race.

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 by: soup - Thu, 28 Dec 2023 10:34 UTC

On 28/12/2023 08:03, Simon Mason wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 7:58:11 PM UTC, soup wrote:
>
>> Yes.
>> Mmm recreational cyclists being interested in a cycle 'race' (and the
>> accompanying technology etc) seems On T to me.
>
> Of course it's on topic - UK riders take part in the race.

True, but note the "REC" part of the name .
Would you say the 'tour' is a recreational event?

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 by: Simon Mason - Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:26 UTC

On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 7:58:11 PM UTC, soup wrote:

> >
> > Have you never heard of discussing the Tour de France on uk.rec.cycling, for example?
> Yes.
> Mmm recreational cyclists being interested in a cycle 'race' (and the
> accompanying technology etc) seems On T to me.

UK riders are always taking part in it so of course it's on topic.

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