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 by: Simon Mason - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 11:57 UTC

Ministers must crack down on dangerous pavement parking that can affect the safety of around 85 percent of visually impaired pedestrians, charity Guide Dogs insists.

It claimed vehicles obstructing footpaths cause major difficulties for people with a vision impairment – and has launched a petition calling for the law to be toughened up.

For those relying on guide dogs, their only option is often to put themselves at risk by stepping into busy roads to avoid parked cars.

It claimed vehicles obstructing footpaths cause major difficulties for people with a vision impairment – and has launched a petition calling for the law to be toughened up.

For those relying on guide dogs, their only option is often to put themselves at risk by stepping into busy roads to avoid parked cars.

Clare Williams, from Smethwick in the West Midlands who owns guide dog Quita, said pavement parking has turned day-to-day tasks into a “scary obstacle course”.

She explained: “It is not just a nuisance, it’s dangerous for all pedestrians but especially those of us with visual impairments. In my experience, simple tasks like going shopping can turn into a scary obstacle course as my guide dog helps me to negotiate cars parked on the pavement, meaning we have to walk in the road.”

The charity, which trains dogs to support people with a vision impairment, said despite the Department for Transport holding a consultation in 2020, no progress had been made.

Eleanor Briggs, from Guide Dogs, said: “Cars blocking the way undermines those with impairments’ confidence to get out and about.

“This daily threat can mean people can’t safely get to work, education or to see friends.

“We welcomed the Government’s recognition of the problem but now is the time to make good on their promise and give local councils the power to tackle problem pavement parking in their areas.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1816302/drivers-danger-crackdown-visually-impaired-guide-dogs

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 13:42 UTC

On 04/02/2024 11:57 am, Simon Mason wrote:

> Ministers must crack down on dangerous pavement parking that can affect the safety of around 85 percent of visually impaired pedestrians, charity Guide Dogs insists.
> It claimed vehicles obstructing footpaths cause major difficulties for people with a vision impairment – and has launched a petition calling for the law to be toughened up.
> For those relying on guide dogs, their only option is often to put themselves at risk by stepping into busy roads to avoid parked cars.
> It claimed vehicles obstructing footpaths cause major difficulties for people with a vision impairment – and has launched a petition calling for the law to be toughened up.
> For those relying on guide dogs, their only option is often to put themselves at risk by stepping into busy roads to avoid parked cars.
> Clare Williams, from Smethwick in the West Midlands who owns guide dog Quita, said pavement parking has turned day-to-day tasks into a “scary obstacle course”.
> She explained: “It is not just a nuisance, it’s dangerous for all pedestrians but especially those of us with visual impairments. In my experience, simple tasks like going shopping can turn into a scary obstacle course as my guide dog helps me to negotiate cars parked on the pavement, meaning we have to walk in the road.”
> The charity, which trains dogs to support people with a vision impairment, said despite the Department for Transport holding a consultation in 2020, no progress had been made.
> Eleanor Briggs, from Guide Dogs, said: “Cars blocking the way undermines those with impairments’ confidence to get out and about.
> “This daily threat can mean people can’t safely get to work, education or to see friends.
> “We welcomed the Government’s recognition of the problem but now is the time to make good on their promise and give local councils the power to tackle problem pavement parking in their areas.”
>
> https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1816302/drivers-danger-crackdown-visually-impaired-guide-dogs

The law might change, but the only really effective legislative change
would occur if households with no off-street parking were simply not
permitted to keep a motor vehicle at all. Then there would be no
"pavement" parking (FOOTway parking).

And those households which do have some off-street parking need to be
limited to only the number of vehicles which can be, and are, fitted
onto that space.

It is such an obvious solution and would have several effects, including
making the ownership of small pockets of land in residential areas a
valuable asset because off-street parking spaces could be rented out (or
even sold freehold or leasehold).

Of course, people like Julie with her mobility difficulties, are more in
danger (while on the FOOTway) from speeding chav-cyclists. I certainly
don't support FOOTway parking, but chav-cyclists are only against it
because they want the FOOTways cleared for *their* use. Chav-cyclists
could not care less about pedestrians or mobility scooter users.

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 by: Simon Mason - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 14:21 UTC

QUOTE: For those relying on guide dogs, their only option is often to put themselves at risk by stepping into busy roads to avoid parked cars.ENDS

Poor dogs don't deserve that level of verbal and physical abuse from selfish twats.

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 17:39 UTC

On 04/02/2024 02:21 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

> QUOTE: For those relying on guide dogs, their only option is often to put themselves at risk by stepping into busy roads to avoid parked cars.ENDS
>
> Poor dogs don't deserve that level of verbal and physical abuse from selfish twats.

But as we all know, that's the MO for chav-cyclists: the stream of
obscenities loudly directed at anybody and anything that has the
temerity to be in their way on the FOOTway.

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 by: Simon Mason - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 19:09 UTC

Such an occasion came last week at City of Edinburgh Council transport committee when councillors from all five parties; Liberal Democrat, SNP, Labour, Conservative and Green; voted to fully enforce a new ban on pavement parking from the New Year.

The idea of a ban has been a long time coming. For those of us who have championed and campaigned for a change in law for so long, it’s with a mix of joy and relief that we know the ban will, at last, be in force.

I’ll hold my hands up. For me, this is personal. After a long period of ill health, my own mother now gets out and about because of her mobility scooter.

Yet, too often, she is forced off pavements because drivers have recklessly blocked the pavements where she lives.

It means she’s forced to travel on and down roads, often suffering verbal abuse from drivers in the process. It can be the same story for those with buggies, pushchairs, and prams. Those with visual impairments are impacted too.

This is why last week’s decision was such an important and positive step. This simple change in the law can and will make a big difference to the lives of many hundreds of people across our city.

I’m also proud that Edinburgh has taken such a strong lead on this. There are so many areas where the city council either gets it wrong or is simply too slow to act.

However, Edinburgh will be one of the very first local authorities anywhere in Scotland to fully implement and enforce the new pavement parking ban. Of course, it’s important that people are made fully aware of the change.

The Council also has an important role in enforcing the new law properly.

For now though, let’s take a moment to treasure this decision, and celebrate the fact all political parties put aside their squabbles to take it together.

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 21:24 UTC

On 04/02/2024 07:09 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
>
> Such an occasion came last week at City of Edinburgh Council transport committee when councillors from all five parties; Liberal Democrat, SNP, Labour, Conservative and Green; voted to fully enforce a new ban on pavement parking from the New Year.
>
> The idea of a ban has been a long time coming. For those of us who have championed and campaigned for a change in law for so long, it’s with a mix of joy and relief that we know the ban will, at last, be in force.
>
> I’ll hold my hands up. For me, this is personal. After a long period of ill health, my own mother now gets out and about because of her mobility scooter.
>
> Yet, too often, she is forced off pavements because drivers have recklessly blocked the pavements where she lives.
>
> It means she’s forced to travel on and down roads, often suffering verbal abuse from drivers in the process. It can be the same story for those with buggies, pushchairs, and prams. Those with visual impairments are impacted too.
>
> This is why last week’s decision was such an important and positive step. This simple change in the law can and will make a big difference to the lives of many hundreds of people across our city.
>
> I’m also proud that Edinburgh has taken such a strong lead on this. There are so many areas where the city council either gets it wrong or is simply too slow to act.
>
> However, Edinburgh will be one of the very first local authorities anywhere in Scotland to fully implement and enforce the new pavement parking ban. Of course, it’s important that people are made fully aware of the change.
>
> The Council also has an important role in enforcing the new law properly.
>
> For now though, let’s take a moment to treasure this decision, and celebrate the fact all political parties put aside their squabbles to take it together.

What would be the point in clearing FOOTways if chav-cyclists just took
them over as chav-speedways?

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 by: Simon Mason - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 07:05 UTC

QUOTE: “We welcomed the Government’s recognition of the problem but now is the time to make good on their promise and give local councils the power to tackle problem pavement parking in their areas.” ENDS

The fly tipping scum get their vehicles crushed - how about doing that with pavement parkers too?

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 by: JNugent - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 14:13 UTC

On 05/02/2024 07:05 am, Simon Mason wrote:

> QUOTE: “We welcomed the Government’s recognition of the problem but now is the time to make good on their promise and give local councils the power to tackle problem pavement parking in their areas.” ENDS
>
> The fly tipping scum get their vehicles crushed - how about doing that with pavement parkers too?

And "pavement"* chav-cyclists too?

[* FOOTways]

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 by: Simon Mason - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 16:14 UTC

A charity for visually impaired people has urged the Government to do more to crack down on pavement parking.

The Government consulted on options to tackle pavement parking in 2020, and received over 15,000 responses.

However, the Guide Dogs charity said that there had been ‘no progress’ on this issue and called for the introduction of tighter national restrictions.

New research conducted by YouGov on behalf of Guide Dogs found that only one in five (22%) councillors believe their current powers to tackle pavement parking were sufficient and four in 10 say that residents contact them at least once a month about pavement parking.

The polling also found the majority (95%) of councillors in England said pavement parking created a safety risk for pedestrians with a vision impairment, with 70% admitting pavement parking is a problem in their area.

Eleanor Briggs, head of policy, public affairs and campaigns at Guide Dogs, said: ‘The message from the public and local councillors is clear; our streets are not safe because of cars blocking pavements. The Government need to act now as local councils don’t have the powers they need..

‘Parking on pavements is a nuisance for everyone, but potentially dangerous if you are a wheelchair user forced onto the road, pushing a child in a buggy or have sight loss and can’t see traffic coming towards you.’

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 by: JNugent - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 18:44 UTC

On 05/02/2024 04:14 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

[ ... ]

> Eleanor Briggs, head of policy, public affairs and campaigns at Guide Dogs, said: ‘The message from the public and local councillors is clear; our streets are not safe for chav-cyclists because of cars blocking pavements.
FIFY.

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 by: Simon Mason - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 20:08 UTC

Wiltshire Council has not ruled out introducing a pavement parking ban and warned anyone obstructing pedestrians will be targeted by police.

Pavement parking has been banned in cities such as London and Sheffield, but no national laws have been implemented to crack down on the issue.

Earlier this year a government consultation concluded that a “national prohibition might be inappropriate” and that “local authorities are best placed” to rule on any potential bans.

Wiltshire Council is yet to introduce such a ban, despite the policy receiving support from sight charities, but refused to rule out implementing the measures in the future.

Cllr Caroline Thomas, the cabinet member for transport, said: “The enforcement of pavement and other parking offences is regularly reviewed. “During any policy review, we will consider the powers already available for use, such as pavement parking bans, and decisions will be dependent on enforcement priorities and available resources.

“Residents who have particular concerns over pavement obstructions can report these to the police and for ongoing parking issues on restricted single or double yellow lines to the council using our MyWilts reporting platform at www.wiltshire.gov.uk/mywilts.”

In the meantime, the council warned that those who cause obstructions for pedestrians will be targeted by police, while civil enforcement officers can issue fines to those parking on pavements or verges adjacent to double yellow lines.
Police recently warned residents of Royal Wootton Bassett about parking on pavements and corners after spotting one offender parked on the corner of a junction near a primary school.

A spokesperson for the force said: “Parking such as this causes issues with visibility whilst using the junction, restricts emergency service vehicle access and pedestrians crossing the road.”

Driving on pavements is currently prohibited, as is parking in a way that prevents pedestrians from using the footway, and the council urged locals to report such instances to police.

Cllr Thomas added: “Driving on a footway or pavement is an offence under the Highways Act 1835 and is also prohibited by rule 145 of the Highway Code.

“To park on a pavement in such a manner as to obstruct pedestrians from moving along it is an offence and as such the police can take enforcement action for these offences when they deem it appropriate.

“In addition, people who park on pavements or verges adjacent to a carriageway with yellow lines can be issued with a fixed penalty notice by our civil enforcement officers.”

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 by: JNugent - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 22:22 UTC

On 05/02/2024 08:08 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
> Wiltshire Council has not ruled out introducing a pavement parking ban and warned anyone obstructing pedestrians will be targeted by police.
>
> Pavement parking has been banned in cities such as London and Sheffield, but no national laws have been implemented to crack down on the issue.
>
> Earlier this year a government consultation concluded that a “national prohibition might be inappropriate” and that “local authorities are best placed” to rule on any potential bans.
>
> Wiltshire Council is yet to introduce such a ban, despite the policy receiving support from sight charities, but refused to rule out implementing the measures in the future.
>
> Cllr Caroline Thomas, the cabinet member for transport, said: “The enforcement of pavement and other parking offences is regularly reviewed. “During any policy review, we will consider the powers already available for use, such as pavement parking bans, and decisions will be dependent on enforcement priorities and available resources.
>
> “Residents who have particular concerns over pavement obstructions can report these to the police and for ongoing parking issues on restricted single or double yellow lines to the council using our MyWilts reporting platform at www.wiltshire.gov.uk/mywilts.”
>
> In the meantime, the council warned that those who cause obstructions for pedestrians will be targeted by police, while civil enforcement officers can issue fines to those parking on pavements or verges adjacent to double yellow lines.
>
> Police recently warned residents of Royal Wootton Bassett about parking on pavements and corners after spotting one offender parked on the corner of a junction near a primary school.
>
> A spokesperson for the force said: “Parking such as this causes issues with visibility whilst using the junction, restricts emergency service vehicle access and pedestrians crossing the road.”
>
> Driving on pavements is currently prohibited, as is parking in a way that prevents pedestrians from using the footway, and the council urged locals to report such instances to police.
>
> Cllr Thomas added: “Driving on a footway or pavement is an offence under the Highways Act 1835 and is also prohibited by rule 145 of the Highway Code.
>
> “To park on a pavement in such a manner as to obstruct pedestrians from moving along it is an offence and as such the police can take enforcement action for these offences when they deem it appropriate.
>
> “In addition, people who park on pavements or verges adjacent to a carriageway with yellow lines can be issued with a fixed penalty notice by our civil enforcement officers.”

"...those who cause obstructions for pedestrians will be targeted by
police..."?

So Wiltshire Police will be targeting chav-cyclists on FOOTways?

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 by: Simon Mason - Tue, 6 Feb 2024 05:59 UTC

A charity that supports people with sight loss is calling on the government to crack down on pavement parking.

Guide Dogs, based in Bishop's Tachbrook, Warwickshire, said vehicles obstructing footpaths could cause huge difficulties for people with a vision impairment.

It has started a petition, calling for a strengthening in the law.

The government said it would publish a response to a consultation on ways to address the problem in due course.

Clare Williams, from Smethwick, who owns guide dog Quita, said: "Pavement parking is not just a nuisance, it's dangerous for all pedestrians but especially those of us with visual impairments.

"In my experience, simple tasks like going shopping can turn into a scary obstacle course as my guide dog helps me to negotiate cars parked on the pavement meaning we have to walk in the road until we have passed the car.

"I take my own safety very seriously and would not want to walk in the road by choice."

The charity, which trains dogs to support people with a vision impairment, said people with sight loss could not always see if they could safely squeeze past a parked car and often their only alternative was to step into the road around it, which exposed them to oncoming traffic.

It said despite the government holding its consultation in 2020, no progress had been made.

Eleanor Briggs, from Guide Dogs, said: "We know cars blocking the way undermines people with vision impairments' confidence to get out and about independently.

"This daily threat can mean people can't safely get to work, education or to see friends.

"We welcomed the government's recognition of the problem, but now is the time to make good on their promise of action and give local councils the power to tackle problem pavement parking in their areas."

A Department for Transport spokesperson said: "Everyone should be able to navigate their streets without obstacle, and we continue to work with charities to keep pavements clear.

"Local authorities already have powers to prohibit pavement parking with local laws, and in 2020 we launched a consultation to better equip councils to take action.

"The response will be published in due course."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-66856644

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 by: JNugent - Tue, 6 Feb 2024 15:54 UTC

On 06/02/2024 05:59 am, Simon Mason wrote:

> A charity that supports people with sight loss is calling on the government to crack down on pavement parking.

How about a crackdown on pavement (ie, FOOTway) chav-cycling?

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Neighbours are being asked to snitch on drivers who park inconsiderately in a new police crackdown - but the scheme has been called a waste of officers' time by the body that represents them.

The new scheme, called Operation Chatty, aims to catch people parking illegally by obstructing footpaths with a trial having launched in the north of Norwich.

While the scheme has the support of anti-car campaigners, others have questioned the use of resources.

One Norwich dad has spent years campaigning for the police to do something about inconsiderate drivers obstructing footpaths.

Liam Calvert, a member of Car-Free Norwich, said he started a three-year crusade after finding it difficult to push a pushchair down city streets.

He said: "With twins in a pushchair it was almost impossible to get anywhere and there's a limit to what you can do with notes on cars.

"I recently had a couple in their late 80s telling me she had struggled to get past a car and she took a fall seriously injuring herself."

Mr Calvert said a lot of people are uncomfortable talking to police and do not want to get in trouble with their neighbours but hoped they would feel comfortable reporting by email.

"On and off over the years I have been hassling the police to do something about pavement parking.

"The police always came back arguing that parking was not their responsibility, they say it is the local authority.

"There's no need for everyone else to have to go through this to convince the police to do something about it."

Mr Calvert said after researching the issue he found the police did have a responsibility if the pavement was obstructed.

Anyone caught causing dangerous obstruction could be issued a fixed penalty notice of £90.

However, the scheme raises various questions, such as what it means for areas where there is no space not to park on the pavement.

Andy Symonds, chairman of the Norfolk Police Federation raised concerns about what it means for police resources but said it is incumbent on the police to try to tackle pavement parking.

He said: "In the grand scheme of things police have probably got more important things to get on with rather than reviewing pictures of a pavement.

"Officers are dealing with domestic incidents and robberies and all the things that you want us to deal with.

"If they want to add this to our list of priorities I would say we have got more important things to be getting on with."

However, he also said the force cannot simply say "no" to tackling these issues and it was right for the community team to act on them.

He said: "I trust them to make the right calls in terms of how they deal with these reports of inconsiderate/nuisance parking."

A police spokeswoman said: "This is a targeted response to a community issue that has been raised with local officers.

"Whilst it is predominantly for the council to enforce parking issues, we will always strive to work with our partners to address matters that mean the most to our communities."

While there are currently no plans to expand the scheme beyond north Norwich, anyone with concerns about illegal parking can contact their local safer neighbourhood team.

How will it work?

It will see members of the public asked to dob in their neighbours by emailing the police with a picture, vehicle details and times and dates of the offence.

Officers will then review and look to educate the vehicle's owner by sending them a letter.

If the obstruction persists they would then look to speak with the driver before enforcing with tickets.

The initiative is being trialled in the Norwich North area first before being reviewed.

However, a police spokeswoman stressed that general parking offences are the local council's responsibility and should be reported to them.

If you’re in Norwich North and would like to report a parking obstruction, you can do so by emailing OpChatty@norfolk.police.uk

What does the law say?

While large parts of parking enforcement is now covered by councils, obstruction of pavements is still covered by the police.

The Highways Act 1980 says: "If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 51 weeks or a fine or both."

Since 2011, Enforcement of on-street parking restrictions, including yellow lines and time-limited spaces, is now carried out by civil enforcement officers managed by local councils.

Officers also have the power to issue fines.

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 7 Feb 2024 14:11 UTC

On 07/02/2024 03:05 am, Simon Mason wrote:

> Neighbours are being asked to snitch on drivers who park inconsiderately in a new police crackdown - but the scheme has been called a waste of officers' time by the body that represents them.
> The new scheme, called Operation Chatty, aims to catch people parking illegally by obstructing footpaths with a trial having launched in the north of Norwich.
> While the scheme has the support of anti-car campaigners, others have questioned the use of resources.
> One Norwich dad has spent years campaigning for the police to do something about inconsiderate drivers obstructing footpaths.
> Liam Calvert, a member of Car-Free Norwich,

Hahaha!

> said he started a three-year crusade after finding it difficult to push a pushchair down city streets.
> He said: "With twins in a pushchair it was almost impossible to get anywhere and there's a limit to what you can do with notes on cars.

Surely he's old enough to walk by now and doesn't need his mum to push
him in a wheelchair?
>
> "I recently had a couple in their late 80s telling me she had struggled to get past a car and she took a fall seriously injuring herself."
> Mr Calvert said a lot of people are uncomfortable talking to police and do not want to get in trouble with their neighbours but hoped they would feel comfortable reporting by email.
> "On and off over the years I have been hassling the police to do something about pavement parking.
> "The police always came back arguing that parking was not their responsibility, they say it is the local authority.
> "There's no need for everyone else to have to go through this to convince the police to do something about it."
> Mr Calvert said after researching the issue he found the police did have a responsibility if the pavement was obstructed.
> Anyone caught causing dangerous obstruction could be issued a fixed penalty notice of £90.

And any chav found (or reported as) riding a chav-bike on the FOOTway
could be issued a similar penalty. And they are campaigning for "clear
pavements" [sic] only because they want the FOOTways clear for them on
their chav-bikes.

[There - thread now back on-topic.]
>
> However, the scheme raises various questions, such as what it means for areas where there is no space not to park on the pavement.

No problem. Such areas are not suitable for the garaging of motor
vehicles, any more then the seventh floor of May Sun's council tower
block flats is.
>
> Andy Symonds, chairman of the Norfolk Police Federation raised concerns about what it means for police resources but said it is incumbent on the police to try to tackle pavement parking.

What does it have to do with the Federation?

It is surely an area command issue (superintendent level).

> He said: "In the grand scheme of things police have probably got more important things to get on with rather than reviewing pictures of a pavement.

Ah well... perhaps the Federation do have a valid viewpoint. But really,
it isn't their business, any more than setting the council tax is the
business of NALGO or successors.

> "Officers are dealing with domestic incidents and robberies and all the things that you want us to deal with.
> "If they want to add this to our list of priorities I would say we have got more important things to be getting on with."
> However, he also said the force cannot simply say "no" to tackling these issues and it was right for the community team to act on them.
> He said: "I trust them to make the right calls in terms of how they deal with these reports of inconsiderate/nuisance parking."
> A police spokeswoman said: "This is a targeted response to a community issue that has been raised with local officers.
> "Whilst it is predominantly for the council to enforce parking issues, we will always strive to work with our partners to address matters that mean the most to our communities."
> While there are currently no plans to expand the scheme beyond north Norwich, anyone with concerns about illegal parking can contact their local safer neighbourhood team.
> How will it work?
> It will see members of the public asked to dob in their neighbours by emailing the police with a picture, vehicle details and times and dates of the offence.

I bet May Sun will already be looking for a council house swap for one
in North Norwich so that he can indulge in an orgy of "dobbing in" his
new neighbours.

That's right up his narrow street, so to speak.
>
> Officers will then review and look to educate the vehicle's owner by sending them a letter.
> If the obstruction persists they would then look to speak with the driver before enforcing with tickets.
> The initiative is being trialled in the Norwich North area first before being reviewed.
> However, a police spokeswoman stressed that general parking offences are the local council's responsibility and should be reported to them.
> If you’re in Norwich North and would like to report a parking obstruction, you can do so by emailing OpChatty@norfolk.police.uk
>
> What does the law say?

"Don't ride a chav-bike on the FOOTway"?
>
> While large parts of parking enforcement is now covered by councils, obstruction of pavements is still covered by the police.
> The Highways Act 1980 says: "If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 51 weeks or a fine or both."
> Since 2011, Enforcement of on-street parking restrictions, including yellow lines and time-limited spaces, is now carried out by civil enforcement officers managed by local councils.
> Officers also have the power to issue fines.

They don't.

But May Sun's vocabulary is limited. He can't spell "penalty notice". Or
pronounce it.

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QUOTE: He said: "With twins in a pushchair it was almost impossible to get anywhere and there's a limit to what you can do with notes on cars. ENDS

"Almost impossible"?

Is that like "almost infinite"?

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 7 Feb 2024 23:14 UTC

On 07/02/2024 08:47 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

> QUOTE: He said: "With twins in a pushchair it was almost impossible to get anywhere and there's a limit to what you can do with notes on cars. ENDS
>
> "Almost impossible"?
>
> Is that like "almost infinite"?

You tell 'im!

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 by: Simon Mason - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 12:53 UTC

Edinburgh has become the first city in Scotland to implement a pavement parking ban, with motorists now facing fines of £100 if caught parking on pavements. The ban has been introduced to protect pedestrians, especially those using wheelchairs and pushing buggies. The Council has identified 500 streets where pavement parking is a persistent issue.

However, some people have expressed concerns about the impact it will have on emergency services and bin lorries that need to access narrow streets. Victoria Watson, a mother of three living on Regent Street, said that while she agreed with the need for clear pavements, there had been no input or consultation from the council on how to accommodate emergency services and bin lorries on narrow streets.

Transport and environment convener, Scott Arthur, has called on motorists to be considerate of where they park, but added that officials would be monitoring the situation to see if the changes have any negative effects, such as traffic displacement or access issues.

The ban also extends to parking at dropped kerbs and double parking, with an exemption for delivery drivers. While some locals have rallied together to find solutions to the issue, others have suggested creating more parking areas to alleviate the problem. The ban was introduced under new powers given to the council by the Transport (Scotland) Act 2019, and enforcement started on Monday

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