A man from Hull has been ordered to pay a total of £1,395.16 by a court for abandoning a car in Hessle.

David Goddard, 54, of Myrtle Avenue, left a white Vauxhall Corsa in Fishemore Avenue, Hessle. A member of the public reported the car to East Riding Council as it had been left parked in the same place for months.

Goddard abandoned the vehicle between July 3 and September 20 last year, Beverley Magistrates’ Court heard. Goddard did not attend the hearing and did not enter a plea, so the case brought by East Riding Council was proved in his absence, on Wednesday, January 31.

For the offence of abandoning a vehicle without lawful authority, he was fined £660 and ordered to pay costs of £471.16 and a £264 victim surcharge. Records showed Goddard to be the owner of the Corsa, but despite numerous requests from the council’s streetscene enforcement officers for him to remove the vehicle, it remained parked in the same spot.

Following the officers’ investigation, the car was confirmed as abandoned. The vehicle was then removed by the council on September 21 last year. Goddard was informed but made no attempt to recover his vehicle, and therefore it was destroyed.

The council sent Goddard a £200 fixed penalty for the offence, but no response was received, so the matter was taken to court. Carl Skelton, director of streetscene services at East Riding Council, said: “Abandoned cars can cause a real nuisance and become a safety issue for residents.

“Thanks to members of the public reporting abandoned vehicles to us, we can usually resolve the situation, but in cases like this we have to step in.” The council deals with vehicles which may be abandoned on both public and private property.

Abandoning a vehicle is a criminal offence, for which the owner can be issued with a £200 fixed penalty notice. The cars can be a nuisance in terms of how they are parked, the condition they are in, and whether there are any mechanical defects or unsafe elements, the council said.

Officers investigate and always contact the registered owners to establish whether vehicles are abandoned. As a result of those investigations, most vehicles are then removed by owners; only a few have to be removed by the council.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/hull-man-abandons-car-months-9083507?int_source=nba

On 07/02/2024 01:49 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

> A man from Hull [sic - they obviously mean 'Ull] has been ordered to pay a total of £1,395.16 by a court for abandoning a car in Hessle.
> David Goddard, 54, of Myrtle Avenue, left a white Vauxhall Corsa in Fishemore Avenue, Hessle. A member of the public reported the car to East Riding Council as it had been left parked in the same place for months.
> Goddard abandoned the vehicle between July 3 and September 20 last year, Beverley Magistrates’ Court heard. Goddard did not attend the hearing and did not enter a plea, so the case brought by East Riding Council was proved in his absence, on Wednesday, January 31.
> For the offence of abandoning a vehicle without lawful authority, he was fined £660 and ordered to pay costs of £471.16 and a £264 victim surcharge. Records showed Goddard to be the owner of the Corsa, but despite numerous requests from the council’s streetscene enforcement officers for him to remove the vehicle, it remained parked in the same spot.

What is the difference between parking a motor vehicle and "abandoning" it?

And why does parking require local authority permission?

> Following the officers’ investigation, the car was confirmed as abandoned.

What does that even mean?

> The vehicle was then removed by the council on September 21 last year. Goddard was informed but made no attempt to recover his vehicle, and therefore it was destroyed.

It doesn't sound as though the council's attempts at communication were
tremendously successful, does it?

How did they think they knew that the communications had reached the
intended recipient?

> The council sent Goddard a £200 fixed penalty for the offence,

What "offence"?

> but no response was received, so the matter was taken to court. Carl Skelton, director of streetscene services at East Riding Council, said: “Abandoned cars can cause a real nuisance and become a safety issue for residents.
> “Thanks to members of the public reporting abandoned vehicles to us, we can usually resolve the situation, but in cases like this we have to step in.” The council deals with vehicles which may be abandoned on both public and private property.
> Abandoning a vehicle is a criminal offence, for which the owner can be issued with a £200 fixed penalty notice. The cars can be a nuisance in terms of how they are parked, the condition they are in, and whether there are any mechanical defects or unsafe elements, the council said.

....And?
>
> Officers investigate and always contact the registered owners to establish whether vehicles are abandoned. As a result of those investigations, most vehicles are then removed by owners; only a few have to be removed by the council.

TRANSLATION:

"Officers investigate and always ATTEMPT TO contact the registered owners"

Or at least, they say they do.
>
> https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/hull-man-abandons-car-months-9083507?int_source=nba

The fact that the owner (if correctly identified, that is) didn't
respond does rather suggest that either no communication reached
him/her, or that the person concerned did not own the vehicle, doesn't it?

Would YOU just let your valuable property be snaffled by a local authority?

QUOTE: Abandoning a vehicle is a criminal offence, for which the owner can be issued with a £200 fixed penalty notice.ENDS

Could be dangerous for the selfish twats who leave their cars all day away from their homes when they catch a train to work!
Crushers at the ready.

On 07/02/2024 04:24 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

> QUOTE: Abandoning a vehicle is a criminal offence, for which the owner can be issued with a £200 fixed penalty notice.ENDS
>
> Could be dangerous for the selfish twats who leave their cars all day away from their homes when they catch a train to work!
> Crushers at the ready.

You are absolutely not right in the head.

Not at all.

You could get help. Heaven knows you've proven that you need it.

[No chav-cycle content]

Only another fourteen or fifteen days...

QUOTE: Following the officers’ investigation, the car was confirmed as abandoned. The vehicle was then removed by the council on September 21 last year. Goddard was informed but made no attempt to recover his vehicle, and therefore it was destroyed. ENDS

Were the remains sent to the criminal's address?
After all, it was still his property.
Could be a garden feature!

JNugent <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote:
> On 07/02/2024 04:24 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
>
>> QUOTE: Abandoning a vehicle is a criminal offence, for which the owner
>> can be issued with a £200 fixed penalty notice.ENDS
>>
>> Could be dangerous for the selfish twats who leave their cars all day
>> away from their homes when they catch a train to work!
>> Crushers at the ready.

> You are absolutely not right in the head.

He seems to be advocating that people drive to work rather than take the
train - which goes completely against his previous position of forcing
people out of cars and on to bicycles or public (ugh!) transport.

> Not at all.

So it would seem.

> You could get help. Heaven knows you've proven that you need it.

> [No chav-cycle content]

> Only another fourteen or fifteen days...

--
Spike

QUOTE: A man from Hull has been ordered to pay a total of £1,395.16 by a court for abandoning a car in Hessle. David Goddard, 54, of Myrtle Avenue, left a white Vauxhall Corsa in Fishemore Avenue, Hessle. A member of the public reported the car to East Riding Council as it had been left parked in the same place for months. ENDS

Selfish twat could have triggered a massive missing person search involving divers, choppers and dogs as that spot is a favourite place for Humber Bridge jumpers to abandon their cars.

On 08/02/2024 08:06 am, Simon Mason wrote:

> QUOTE: Following the officers’ investigation, the car was confirmed as abandoned.

How?

What is the legal definition?

What is the difference between "parked" and "abandoned"?

When you say "confirmed", the most you can possibly mean, given the
ordinary meanings of English words, is "deemed".

> The vehicle was then removed by the council on September 21 last year. Goddard was informed but made no attempt to recover his vehicle, and therefore it was destroyed. ENDS
> Were the remains sent to the criminal's address?
> After all, it was still his property.

How do you, or how does anyone else, know that? The fact that he did not
respond to alleged communications tells its own quite different story.

> Could be a garden feature!

He could put it into a hole on the floor of his garage, perhaps.

That could be useful to stop drunks breaking in and sitting in the hole.

On 08/02/2024 12:56 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

> QUOTE: A man from Hull has been ordered to pay a total of £1,395.16 by a court for abandoning a car in Hessle. David Goddard, 54, of Myrtle Avenue, left a white Vauxhall Corsa in Fishemore Avenue, Hessle. A member of the public reported the car to East Riding Council as it had been left parked in the same place for months. ENDS
>
> Selfish twat could have triggered a massive missing person search involving divers, choppers and dogs as that spot is a favourite place for Humber Bridge jumpers to abandon their cars.

How many times has that happened?

It's at least the third time you're "reported" it. And no chav-cycle
connection any of those times.

14 days...

QUOTE: Abandoning a vehicle is a criminal offence, for which the owner can be issued with a £200 fixed penalty notice. The cars can be a nuisance in terms of how they are parked, the condition they are in, and whether there are any mechanical defects or unsafe elements, the council said. ENDS

A little known fact is that burned out abandoned cars can have pools of Hydrofluoric acid as a decomposition by-product in the engine bay.
That stuff can eat away the bones in your body if splashed on the skin.

On 08/02/2024 12:56, Simon Mason wrote:

> Selfish twat could have triggered a massive missing person search involving divers, choppers and dogs as that spot is a favourite place for Humber Bridge jumpers to abandon their cars.

You'd know about that.

On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 9:10:34 PM UTC, soup wrote:
> On 08/02/2024 12:56, Simon Mason wrote:
>
> > Selfish twat could have triggered a massive missing person search involving divers, choppers and dogs as that spot is a favourite place for Humber Bridge jumpers to abandon their cars.
> You'd know about that.

I had my driving licence in my back pocket in order to assist the cops.