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 by: Simon Mason - Mon, 19 Feb 2024 19:34 UTC

A lorry driver who killed a cyclist when he turned without properly indicating has been jailed.

Dr Marta Krawiec, 41, was cycling to work when she was knocked over and dragged under the wheel of a lorry driven by 69-year-old Kevin Allen.

Allen, of Laurel Avenue, Mansfield, denied causing death by dangerous driving but in January a jury found him guilty by a majority of 10 to two.

On Monday (February 19) Allen was sentenced to four years and nine months in prison, court staff said.

He was also banned from driving for three years and six months and will have to pass an extended driving test to be able to drive again.

The fatal incident took place at the junction of Southampton Row and Theobalds Road in Holborn at around 9am on August 4, 2021.

Allen, who has been an HGV driver since 1989, was in the middle of three lanes while waiting for the lights to change at the junction, prosecutor Paul Casey told the jury.

Allen explained that while he was intending to turn left and the middle lane was for straight ahead only, it was necessary for him to be in this lane as the length of lorry would have made the manoeuvre very difficult from the left lane.

Prosecutor Mr Casey had previously said Allen did not indicate to turn left at all during the 45 seconds he was waiting at the lights, and only began indicating after he’d already begun his left turn.

“Mr Allen’s failure to indicate in a timely fashion had catastrophic consequences,” Mr Casey said.

Cyclist Dr Krawiec, who was behind and to the left of Allen’s HGV at the lights, began travelling straight ahead after the lights turned green..

She was alongside Allen’s HGV when he began turning left, knocking her off her bike and trapping her under a wheel.

A taxi driver described hearing her shout “NO”, the jury was told.

Dr Krawiec was pronounced dead at the scene.

She was a paediatrician at an NHS clinic in Clapham.

Mr Casey told the jury there were no other factors at play during the collision – conditions were perfect, both vehicles were in good order, the HGV was only travelling at 13mph and Allen was not under the influence of drink or drugs.

“The prosecution will suggest that the sole cause of her death was driver error on Mr Allen’s part,” he said.

When Allen was interviewed a few weeks later, he told police he had been delivering steel to a building site off Shaftesbury Avenue.

He said he had delivered to the site on several occasions and roughly knew the roads.

Allen explained that due to the length of the vehicle he would have partly entered the middle lane if he had attempted to turn from the left lane.

He therefore decided to use the middle lane to turn left.

He said he had checked his mirrors and did not see Dr Krawiec, who was in his blind spot.

Allen also said he had been indicating to turn left at the lights, but after being shown CCTV footage he conceded that he was not indicating before he started moving.

He explained that he thought he had been.

https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/24129463.driver-killed-doctor-turned-without-indicating-jailed/

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 by: JNugent - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:50 UTC

On 19/02/2024 13:34, Simon Mason wrote:
> A lorry driver who killed a cyclist when he turned without properly indicating has been jailed.
>
> Dr Marta Krawiec, 41, was cycling to work when she was knocked over and dragged under the wheel of a lorry driven by 69-year-old Kevin Allen.
>
> Allen, of Laurel Avenue, Mansfield, denied causing death by dangerous driving but in January a jury found him guilty by a majority of 10 to two.
>
> On Monday (February 19) Allen was sentenced to four years and nine months in prison, court staff said.
>
> He was also banned from driving for three years and six months and will have to pass an extended driving test to be able to drive again.
>
> The fatal incident took place at the junction of Southampton Row and Theobalds Road in Holborn at around 9am on August 4, 2021.
>
> Allen, who has been an HGV driver since 1989, was in the middle of three lanes while waiting for the lights to change at the junction, prosecutor Paul Casey told the jury.
>
> Allen explained that while he was intending to turn left and the middle lane was for straight ahead only, it was necessary for him to be in this lane as the length of lorry would have made the manoeuvre very difficult from the left lane.
>
> Prosecutor Mr Casey had previously said Allen did not indicate to turn left at all during the 45 seconds he was waiting at the lights, and only began indicating after he’d already begun his left turn.
>
> “Mr Allen’s failure to indicate in a timely fashion had catastrophic consequences,” Mr Casey said.
>
> Cyclist Dr Krawiec, who was behind and to the left of Allen’s HGV at the lights, began travelling straight ahead after the lights turned green.
>
> She was alongside Allen’s HGV when he began turning left, knocking her off her bike and trapping her under a wheel.
>
> A taxi driver described hearing her shout “NO”, the jury was told.
>
> Dr Krawiec was pronounced dead at the scene.
>
> She was a paediatrician at an NHS clinic in Clapham.
>
> Mr Casey told the jury there were no other factors at play during the collision – conditions were perfect, both vehicles were in good order, the HGV was only travelling at 13mph and Allen was not under the influence of drink or drugs.
>
> “The prosecution will suggest that the sole cause of her death was driver error on Mr Allen’s part,” he said.
>
> When Allen was interviewed a few weeks later, he told police he had been delivering steel to a building site off Shaftesbury Avenue.
>
> He said he had delivered to the site on several occasions and roughly knew the roads.
>
> Allen explained that due to the length of the vehicle he would have partly entered the middle lane if he had attempted to turn from the left lane.
>
> He therefore decided to use the middle lane to turn left.
>
> He said he had checked his mirrors and did not see Dr Krawiec, who was in his blind spot.
>
> Allen also said he had been indicating to turn left at the lights, but after being shown CCTV footage he conceded that he was not indicating before he started moving.
>
> He explained that he thought he had been.
>
> https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/24129463.driver-killed-doctor-turned-without-indicating-jailed/

So it would presumably all have been alright if the lorry's left
indicator had been "on"?

And by extesnion, that any chav on a chav-bike overtaking a left-turning
lorry with its left indicator on only has himself to blame?

Either that is the case, or the report above reflects a court making it
all up as it goes along.

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 by: Simon Mason - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 21:18 UTC

QUOTE: On Monday (February 19) Allen was sentenced to four years and nine months in prison, court staff said. He was also banned from driving for three years and six months and will have to pass an extended driving test to be able to drive again. ENDS

Does anyone honestly think that this killer driver would find another job as a truck driver in the UK?
The massive insurance would block him for a start.

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 by: Spike - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 21:48 UTC

JNugent <jennings&co@mail.com> wrote:
> On 19/02/2024 13:34, Simon Mason wrote:
>> A lorry driver who killed a cyclist when he turned without properly
>> indicating has been jailed.
>>
>> Dr Marta Krawiec, 41, was cycling to work when she was knocked over and
>> dragged under the wheel of a lorry driven by 69-year-old Kevin Allen.
>>
>> Allen, of Laurel Avenue, Mansfield, denied causing death by dangerous
>> driving but in January a jury found him guilty by a majority of 10 to two.
>>
>> On Monday (February 19) Allen was sentenced to four years and nine
>> months in prison, court staff said.
>>
>> He was also banned from driving for three years and six months and will
>> have to pass an extended driving test to be able to drive again.
>>
>> The fatal incident took place at the junction of Southampton Row and
>> Theobalds Road in Holborn at around 9am on August 4, 2021.
>>
>> Allen, who has been an HGV driver since 1989, was in the middle of three
>> lanes while waiting for the lights to change at the junction, prosecutor
>> Paul Casey told the jury.
>>
>> Allen explained that while he was intending to turn left and the middle
>> lane was for straight ahead only, it was necessary for him to be in this
>> lane as the length of lorry would have made the manoeuvre very difficult
>> from the left lane.
>>
>> Prosecutor Mr Casey had previously said Allen did not indicate to turn
>> left at all during the 45 seconds he was waiting at the lights, and only
>> began indicating after he’d already begun his left turn.
>>
>> “Mr Allen’s failure to indicate in a timely fashion had catastrophic
>> consequences,” Mr Casey said.
>>
>> Cyclist Dr Krawiec, who was behind and to the left of Allen’s HGV at the
>> lights, began travelling straight ahead after the lights turned green.
>>
>> She was alongside Allen’s HGV when he began turning left, knocking her
>> off her bike and trapping her under a wheel.
>>
>> A taxi driver described hearing her shout “NO”, the jury was told.
>>
>> Dr Krawiec was pronounced dead at the scene.
>>
>> She was a paediatrician at an NHS clinic in Clapham.
>>
>> Mr Casey told the jury there were no other factors at play during the
>> collision – conditions were perfect, both vehicles were in good order,
>> the HGV was only travelling at 13mph and Allen was not under the
>> influence of drink or drugs.
>>
>> “The prosecution will suggest that the sole cause of her death was
>> driver error on Mr Allen’s part,” he said.
>>
>> When Allen was interviewed a few weeks later, he told police he had been
>> delivering steel to a building site off Shaftesbury Avenue.
>>
>> He said he had delivered to the site on several occasions and roughly knew the roads.
>>
>> Allen explained that due to the length of the vehicle he would have
>> partly entered the middle lane if he had attempted to turn from the left lane.
>>
>> He therefore decided to use the middle lane to turn left.
>>
>> He said he had checked his mirrors and did not see Dr Krawiec, who was in his blind spot.
>>
>> Allen also said he had been indicating to turn left at the lights, but
>> after being shown CCTV footage he conceded that he was not indicating
>> before he started moving.
>>
>> He explained that he thought he had been.
>>
>> https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/24129463.driver-killed-doctor-turned-without-indicating-jailed/

> So it would presumably all have been alright if the lorry's left indicator had been "on"?

> And by extesnion, that any chav on a chav-bike overtaking a left-turning
> lorry with its left indicator on only has himself to blame?

> Either that is the case, or the report above reflects a court making it
> all up as it goes along.

ISTM that a major factor in this tragic indigent was a poorly-executed road
layout that failed to allow for a large lorry to execute a left turn; but
the winker was used as an excuse to get everyone else off the hook.

--
Spike

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 by: Simon Mason - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 22:03 UTC

ymm | 10 hours ago
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A shorter sentence than what was deserved tbh but custodial nonetheless. I cannot get my head around the utter incompetence of the driver. It is utterly ridiculous to drive such a large vehicle so dangerously having had so much driver training. The driver failed to meet the higher standards expected of him. I would hope that hgv driver training learns lessons from this case.

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