23 April 2024, 09:52

Near Miss of the Day, beautiful cycle path edition

This morning, Norway-based Scot Stuart Baillie decided to give us a glimpse
into a horrific, dystopian future where cycling infrastructure is safe,
smooth, and quite frankly lovely – and where the greatest danger you’d
encounter is some eejit on a bike overtaking on a blind bend and nearly
hitting you:

[see link for video]

<https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-23-april-2024-307973#live-blog-item-57109>

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Spike

On 25/04/2024 09:19 am, Spike wrote:
>
> 23 April 2024, 09:52
>
> Near Miss of the Day, beautiful cycle path edition
>
> This morning, Norway-based Scot Stuart Baillie decided to give us a glimpse
> into a horrific, dystopian future where cycling infrastructure is safe,
> smooth, and quite frankly lovely – and where the greatest danger you’d
> encounter is some eejit on a bike overtaking on a blind bend and nearly
> hitting you:

That's the danger that pedestrians face NOW!

Not too long back, a lady was killed by a chav-on-a-bike-on-a-footway in
exactly such circumstances.

> [see link for video]
>
> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-23-april-2024-307973#live-blog-item-57109>
>

On 25/04/2024 09:19 am, Spike wrote:
>
> 23 April 2024, 09:52
>
> Near Miss of the Day, beautiful cycle path edition
>
> This morning, Norway-based Scot Stuart Baillie decided to give us a glimpse
> into a horrific, dystopian future where cycling infrastructure is safe,
> smooth, and quite frankly lovely – and where the greatest danger you’d
> encounter is some eejit on a bike overtaking on a blind bend and nearly
> hitting you:
>
> [see link for video]
>
> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-23-april-2024-307973#live-blog-item-57109>

Have you got a link to the video?

That URL doesn't seem to go to anything to do with what you describe above!

JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
> On 25/04/2024 09:19 am, Spike wrote:
>>
>> 23 April 2024, 09:52
>>
>> Near Miss of the Day, beautiful cycle path edition
>>
>> This morning, Norway-based Scot Stuart Baillie decided to give us a glimpse
>> into a horrific, dystopian future where cycling infrastructure is safe,
>> smooth, and quite frankly lovely – and where the greatest danger you’d
>> encounter is some eejit on a bike overtaking on a blind bend and nearly
>> hitting you:
>>
>> [see link for video]
>>
>> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-23-april-2024-307973#live-blog-item-57109>
>
> Have you got a link to the video?
>
> That URL doesn't seem to go to anything to do with what you describe above!

It’s a link to the blog, containing more than one article. Scroll down to
the item timed and dated 3 April 2024, 09:52 and titled ‘Near Miss of the
Day, beautiful cycle path edition’ and click on the twitter video.

This is road.cc we’re dealing with here…🙄

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Spike

On 25/04/2024 03:08 pm, Spike wrote:
> JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
>> On 25/04/2024 09:19 am, Spike wrote:
>>>
>>> 23 April 2024, 09:52
>>>
>>> Near Miss of the Day, beautiful cycle path edition
>>>
>>> This morning, Norway-based Scot Stuart Baillie decided to give us a glimpse
>>> into a horrific, dystopian future where cycling infrastructure is safe,
>>> smooth, and quite frankly lovely – and where the greatest danger you’d
>>> encounter is some eejit on a bike overtaking on a blind bend and nearly
>>> hitting you:
>>>
>>> [see link for video]
>>>
>>> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-23-april-2024-307973#live-blog-item-57109>
>>
>> Have you got a link to the video?
>>
>> That URL doesn't seem to go to anything to do with what you describe above!
>
> It’s a link to the blog, containing more than one article. Scroll down to
> the item timed and dated 3 April 2024, 09:52 and titled ‘Near Miss of the
> Day, beautiful cycle path edition’ and click on the twitter video.
>
> This is road.cc we’re dealing with here…🙄

Found it (by searching for "Baillie" on the page)!

JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
> On 25/04/2024 03:08 pm, Spike wrote:
>> JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
>>> On 25/04/2024 09:19 am, Spike wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 23 April 2024, 09:52
>>>>
>>>> Near Miss of the Day, beautiful cycle path edition
>>>>
>>>> This morning, Norway-based Scot Stuart Baillie decided to give us a glimpse
>>>> into a horrific, dystopian future where cycling infrastructure is safe,
>>>> smooth, and quite frankly lovely – and where the greatest danger you’d
>>>> encounter is some eejit on a bike overtaking on a blind bend and nearly
>>>> hitting you:
>>>>
>>>> [see link for video]
>>>>
>>>> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-23-april-2024-307973#live-blog-item-57109>
>>>
>>> Have you got a link to the video?
>>>
>>> That URL doesn't seem to go to anything to do with what you describe above!
>>
>> It’s a link to the blog, containing more than one article. Scroll down to
>> the item timed and dated 3 April 2024, 09:52 and titled ‘Near Miss of the
>> Day, beautiful cycle path edition’ and click on the twitter video.
>>
>> This is road.cc we’re dealing with here…🙄
>
> Found it (by searching for "Baillie" on the page)!

Well done!

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Spike

Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
>
> 23 April 2024, 09:52
>
> Near Miss of the Day, beautiful cycle path edition
>
> This morning, Norway-based Scot Stuart Baillie decided to give us a glimpse
> into a horrific, dystopian future where cycling infrastructure is safe,
> smooth, and quite frankly lovely – and where the greatest danger you’d
> encounter is some eejit on a bike overtaking on a blind bend and nearly
> hitting you:
>
> [see link for video]
>
> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-23-april-2024-307973#live-blog-item-57109>
>

Not dissimilar to the Netherlands.

Cyclists ignore the rules, ride through crowds of pedestrians, ignore one
way signs, …… Very few wear helmets. Many of the bikes have a single “back
pedal” brake.

Interestingly, observing bus drivers, the Dutch don’t seem to have any
‘close pass’ rule.

It isn’t unusual to see a parent with two young children, one in a seat
mounted on the cross bar or the handle bars, and another on a rear carrier,
tearing down the road, not one of the three with a helmet.

I assume the Dutch have no shortage of organ donors.

Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
> Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 23 April 2024, 09:52
>>
>> Near Miss of the Day, beautiful cycle path edition
>>
>> This morning, Norway-based Scot Stuart Baillie decided to give us a glimpse
>> into a horrific, dystopian future where cycling infrastructure is safe,
>> smooth, and quite frankly lovely – and where the greatest danger you’d
>> encounter is some eejit on a bike overtaking on a blind bend and nearly
>> hitting you:
>>
>> [see link for video]
>>
>> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-23-april-2024-307973#live-blog-item-57109>
>>
>
> Not dissimilar to the Netherlands.
>
> Cyclists ignore the rules, ride through crowds of pedestrians, ignore one
> way signs, …… Very few wear helmets. Many of the bikes have a single “back
> pedal” brake.
>
> Interestingly, observing bus drivers, the Dutch don’t seem to have any
> ‘close pass’ rule.
>
>
> It isn’t unusual to see a parent with two young children, one in a seat
> mounted on the cross bar or the handle bars, and another on a rear carrier,
> tearing down the road, not one of the three with a helmet.

> I assume the Dutch have no shortage of organ donors.

In a country that has a population one-fourth the size of that of the UK
(in modern parlance, ‘four times smaller’), the number of cyclists killed
there per annum has hovered around 200 for the last 20 years, in contrast
to the UK’s 100 and falling.

One would have to ask what the Dutch are doing wrong, with all that cycling
infrastructure, ‘Dutch reaches’ and the like. Such things clearly aren’t
helping to reduce the number of cyclist deaths there. Yet the Dutch model
is paraded as an exemplar of how to accommodate cyclists, such is the
distorted view of the cycling world. They could usefully learn from the UK.

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Spike

On 01/05/2024 07:39 am, Brian wrote:

> Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> 23 April 2024, 09:52
>
>> Near Miss of the Day, beautiful cycle path edition
>
>> This morning, Norway-based Scot Stuart Baillie decided to give us a glimpse
>> into a horrific, dystopian future where cycling infrastructure is safe,
>> smooth, and quite frankly lovely – and where the greatest danger you’d
>> encounter is some eejit on a bike overtaking on a blind bend and nearly
>> hitting you:
>
>> [see link for video]
>
>> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-23-april-2024-307973#live-blog-item-57109>
>
> Not dissimilar to the Netherlands.
>
> Cyclists ignore the rules, ride through crowds of pedestrians, ignore one
> way signs, …… Very few wear helmets. Many of the bikes have a single “back
> pedal” brake.
>
> Interestingly, observing bus drivers, the Dutch don’t seem to have any
> ‘close pass’ rule.
>
>
> It isn’t unusual to see a parent with two young children, one in a seat
> mounted on the cross bar or the handle bars, and another on a rear carrier,
> tearing down the road, not one of the three with a helmet.
>
> I assume the Dutch have no shortage of organ donors.

Chav-cyclists behave just the same in every large city I have visited,
certainly including New York, Los Angeles, Houston and (especially) Memphis.

Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
> Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
>> Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 23 April 2024, 09:52
>>>
>>> Near Miss of the Day, beautiful cycle path edition
>>>
>>> This morning, Norway-based Scot Stuart Baillie decided to give us a glimpse
>>> into a horrific, dystopian future where cycling infrastructure is safe,
>>> smooth, and quite frankly lovely – and where the greatest danger you’d
>>> encounter is some eejit on a bike overtaking on a blind bend and nearly
>>> hitting you:
>>>
>>> [see link for video]
>>>
>>> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-23-april-2024-307973#live-blog-item-57109>
>>>
>>
>> Not dissimilar to the Netherlands.
>>
>> Cyclists ignore the rules, ride through crowds of pedestrians, ignore one
>> way signs, …… Very few wear helmets. Many of the bikes have a single “back
>> pedal” brake.
>>
>> Interestingly, observing bus drivers, the Dutch don’t seem to have any
>> ‘close pass’ rule.
>>
>>
>> It isn’t unusual to see a parent with two young children, one in a seat
>> mounted on the cross bar or the handle bars, and another on a rear carrier,
>> tearing down the road, not one of the three with a helmet.
>
>> I assume the Dutch have no shortage of organ donors.
>
> In a country that has a population one-fourth the size of that of the UK
> (in modern parlance, ‘four times smaller’), the number of cyclists killed
> there per annum has hovered around 200 for the last 20 years, in contrast
> to the UK’s 100 and falling.
>
> One would have to ask what the Dutch are doing wrong, with all that cycling
> infrastructure, ‘Dutch reaches’ and the like. Such things clearly aren’t
> helping to reduce the number of cyclist deaths there. Yet the Dutch model
> is paraded as an exemplar of how to accommodate cyclists, such is the
> distorted view of the cycling world. They could usefully learn from the UK.
>

I made a point of watching several drivers / passengers exit their cars
while wandering around in the Netherlands.

I’ve yet to see the Dutch Reach.

It seems smaller motorcycles / scooters ( I suspect the kind you can ride
here after a basic CBT) can use cycle lanes and even be ridden in some
areas we would deem pedestrian only.

I have a cousin who lives near Arnham. Next time I visit him, I must see if
he knows the rules.