Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
>>>>> J0lly Rog3r wrote
>>>>>> Max wrote4

>>>>>>> Is there any usenet server that is free that doesn'trequire an
>>>>>>> account? Just for posting and reading text.

>>>>>> What's wrong with the server you are using now?

>>>>>> Your question leaves me to think you want to get up to no good.

>>>>> I was actually thinking of making a phoneapp to post and read
>>>>> usenet newsgroups. Just so I can learn how to make apps.

>>>> For which phone OS ?

>>> I would want it run on both iPhone and Android.

>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

> There are definitely cross-platform tools to build appson both Iphone
> and Android, using a single code-base.

Yes, but you don't realise how limiting they are.

>>> You can use cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter whereyou just
>>> make on thing and it can be deployed on both.

>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

> There are definitely cross-platform tools to build appson both Iphone
> and Android, using a single code-base.

Yes, but you don't realise how limiting they are.

>>>>> And also since Google Groups will soon no longer show
>>>>> new content nor allow posting, so there will be no way
>>>>> to post and read newsgroups on a mobile anymore.

>>>> There are in fact usenet apps for bothiOS and android phones and
>>>> tablets.

>>> Which ones?

>> NewsTap for iOS

>> Piaohong for android

> I tried that one for Android and it wasn't good.

I never said it was good.

I do use NewsTap a bit myself and it does work
but its quite slow when downloading new posts.

Not a massive problem if you use it daily now that
usenet has died in the arse so spectacularly but
wouldnt be very good if you use usenet say weekly
if you use the few remaining more active groups.

Not clear how much that is due to the lack of horsepower
in even the best smartphones. I do use it on one of those.

>>> The only one I found for Android was not good.

>>>>> But I would want my relatives to test it out for me, and they
>>>>> wouldn't want to have to create an account with one of the usenet
>>>>> servers.

Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
> Marco Moock wrote
>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
>>
>>> But I would want my relatives to test it out for me, and they
>>> wouldn't want to have to create an account with one of the usenet
>>> servers.

>> You can operate your own Usenet server and let them post through it.

> What software do you need for that? And can it be done on Windows?

Yes it can.

On 30/01/2024 14:13, Max wrote:
> On 29/01/2024 6:42 pm, Marco Moock wrote:
>> Am 29.01.2024 um 14:53:05 Uhr schrieb Max:
>>
>>> But I would want my relatives to test it out for me, and they
>>> wouldn't want to have to create an account with one of the usenet
>>> servers.
>>
>> You can operate your own Usenet server and let them post through it.
>>
>
> What software do you need for that?  And can it be done on Windows?

The best for limited usage is Leafnode <www.leafnode.org> - it's much
easier to build and set up than INN
<https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/> - but you have to know what
you are doing.

Not that it's difficult, it just requires a modicum of sense.

As to windows, I don't know, maybe someone has 'ported one or done it
from scratch.

And it's much easier these days to spin up a Linux VM and do it there,
or it may be possible under WSL.

There are no doubt other small-scale NNTP servers out there, possibly
even for windows, JFGI. :-)

Cheers,
Gary B-)

On 30.01.2024 um 14:13 Uhr Max wrote:

> On 29/01/2024 6:42 pm, Marco Moock wrote:
> > Am 29.01.2024 um 14:53:05 Uhr schrieb Max:
> >
> >> But I would want my relatives to test it out for me, and they
> >> wouldn't want to have to create an account with one of the usenet
> >> servers.
> >
> > You can operate your own Usenet server and let them post through it.
> >
>
> What software do you need for that? And can it be done on Windows?

INN2 can be used for UNIX/Linux, but should also run on WSL.

--
kind regards
Marco

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On 29/01/2024 6:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote

>> You can use  cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you just
>> make on thing and it can be deployed on both.
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
>
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
don't have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
There are several products that do just that includingXamarin, and M$
..net Maui.
You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.

On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 20:42:12 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

> On 29/01/2024 6:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
>
>>> You can use cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you just
>>> make on thing and it can be deployed on both.
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

> There are several products that do just that includingXamarin, and M$
> .net Maui.

> You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.

No news. Pity about how they perform.

On 31/01/2024 2:01 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 20:42:12 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 29/01/2024 6:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
>>
>>>> You can use  cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you just
>>>> make on thing and it can be deployed on both.
>>>  Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
>
>> There are several products that do just that includingXamarin, and M$
>> .net Maui.
>
>> You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.
>
> No news. Pity about how they perform.

you've measured them?

On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 15:18:38 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

> On 31/01/2024 2:01 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 20:42:12 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/01/2024 6:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
>>>
>>>>> You can use cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you just
>>>>> make on thing and it can be deployed on both.
>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>>>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
>>
>>> There are several products that do just that includingXamarin, and M$
>>> .net Maui.
>>
>>> You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.
>> No news. Pity about how they perform.
>
> you've measured them?

Dont need to. Even you should be able to look at those who have.

On 31/01/2024 7:27 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 15:18:38 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 31/01/2024 2:01 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 20:42:12 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/01/2024 6:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> You can use  cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you
>>>>>> just make on thing and it can be deployed on both.
>>>>>  Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>>>>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
>>>
>>>> There are several products that do just that includingXamarin, and
>>>> M$ .net Maui.
>>>
>>>> You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.
>>>  No news. Pity about how they perform.
>>
>> you've measured them?
>
> Dont need to. Even you should be able to look at those who have.

On the Google Flutter web site, which is the latest cross-platform
framework, it lists all the companies that use it, such as Ebay and Toyota.

Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote

>>>>>>> You can use cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you
>>>>>>> just make on thing and it can be deployed on both.

>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>>>>>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

>>>>> There are several products that do just that including
>>>>> Xamarin, and M$ .net Maui.

>>>>> You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.

>>>> No news. Pity about how they perform.

>>> you've measured them?

>> Dont need to. Even you should be able to look at those who have.

> On the Google Flutter web site, which is the latestcross-platform
> framework, it lists all the companiesthat use it, such as Ebay and
> Toyota.

Wota stunning impeccable sourse.

Pity about those that don't.

On 1/02/2024 7:49 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid>  wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
>
>>>>>>>> You can use  cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you
>>>>>>>> just make on thing and it can be deployed on both.
>
>>>>>>>  Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>>>>>>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.
>
>>>>>> There are several products that do just that including
>>>>>> Xamarin, and M$ .net Maui.
>
>>>>>> You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.
>
>>>>> No news. Pity about how they perform.
>
>>>> you've measured them?
>
>>>  Dont need to. Even you should be able to look at those who have.
>
>> On the Google Flutter web site, which is the latestcross-platform
>> framework, it lists all the companiesthat use it, such as Ebay and
>> Toyota.
>
> Wota stunning impeccable sourse.
>
> Pity about those that don't.

Cross-platform must be the way forward though.

Why would anyone want to create 2 separate apps, when they can just make
1?

Google Flutter can even be deployed to web and desktop as well, apparently.

Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@invalid.address> wrote

>>>>>>>>> You can use cross-platform tools like GoogleFlutter where you
>>>>>>>>> just make on thing and it can be deployed on both.

>>>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>>>>>>>> dont have a fucking clue about mobile phone apps.

>>>>>>> There are several products that do just that including
>>>>>>> Xamarin, and M$ .net Maui.

>>>>>>> You can use the same C# codebase for IOS and Android.

>>>>>> No news. Pity about how they perform.

>>>>> you've measured them?

>>>> Dont need to. Even you should be able to look at those who have.

>>> On the Google Flutter web site, which is the latestcross-platform
>>> framework, it lists all the companiesthat use it, such as Ebay and
>>> Toyota.

>> Wota stunning impeccable sourse.

>> Pity about those that don't.

> Cross-platform must be the way forward though.

That's far from clear

> Why would anyone want to create 2 separateapps, when they can just make
> 1?

Because they get a better result doing it that way

> Google Flutter can even be deployedto web and desktop as well,
> apparently.

How odd that fuck all actually use it like that.